Let's Just End the Debate

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IBDaMann

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Let's just recognize that Obama was ineligible to be President ... but that we can't go back in time and undo anything. Let's just move on. Let's drop all the "birther" crap and "Kenya" and what have you.

What is preventing us from just closing the history books?

Why Barack was Ineligible
 
Because Conservatives have no real issues they can criticize Obama for. Same reason they keep repeating the lie that Biden didn't condemn the rioting.

I think this is the usual 'hey, look over there' routine so they don't have to talk about Trump and his dismal failure as a President.
 
Because Conservatives have no real issues they can criticize Obama for. Same reason they keep repeating the lie that Biden didn't condemn the rioting.
It's not conservatives who are keeping the issue alive. It's always some Leftist bringing up how conservative asked to see a valid birth certificate ... in the past. Leftists keep the ball rolling. I was just asked by a Leftist out of the blue if I had found Obama's Kenya birth certificate (completely unrelated to the topic at hand).

I'm asking leftists if there's any hope we can just close it out. Fine, Obama never provided a valid birth certificate. Conservatives have, for the most part, dropped the issue because we can't go back in time. The ball is in the Leftist's court.
 
I think this is the usual 'hey, look over there' routine so they don't have to talk about Trump and his dismal failure as a President.
Are you saying that your denial of Trump's unprecedented successes is what prevents you from just moving on regarding Obama's ineligibility for the Presidency?

That's kind of silly.


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Some people cannot learn. Obama permitted his birth certificate to be seen in public. He should not have done it. Trump said he sent lawyers to Hawaii to investigate and they found many things,. He sent nobody and that was a normal Trump lie. I did not think anyone was so stupid that they could not figure out I was a big Trumpain lie. IBedeidiot should be ashamed.
 
Are you saying that your denial of Trump's unprecedented successes is what prevents you from just moving on regarding Obama's ineligibility for the Presidency?

That's kind of silly.


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You mean like the 'Better Deal' with Iran?
Or ... the Trump Health Care Plan?
 
Some people cannot learn. Obama permitted his birth certificate to be seen in public. He should not have done it. Trump said he sent lawyers to Hawaii to investigate and they found many things,. He sent nobody and that was a normal Trump lie. I did not think anyone was so stupid that they could not figure out I was a big Trumpain lie. IBedeidiot should be ashamed.

Anybody seen Trump's Tax Returns?
 
It's not conservatives who are keeping the issue alive. It's always some Leftist bringing up how conservative asked to see a valid birth certificate ... in the past. Leftists keep the ball rolling. I was just asked by a Leftist out of the blue if I had found Obama's Kenya birth certificate (completely unrelated to the topic at hand).

I have seen some Leftists bring it up, but only to point out that Trump's entire political career has been about racism and conspiracy theories. Which I think is pretty fair. The Birther conspiracy was his first political conspiracy and after it was debunked, he refused to apologize for it. Of course they wanted to point out the beginning of when this started.

I'm asking leftists if there's any hope we can just close it out. Fine, Obama never provided a valid birth certificate. Conservatives have, for the most part, dropped the issue because we can't go back in time. The ball is in the Leftist's court.

I've seen Fashies bring it up about as often as Leftists. I think they bring it up for different reasons. For the Left, it's a reminder that we should have known Trump would be this way in the beginning. For the Right, it's because there's nothing else they can condemn Obama for.
 
When DOnald Trump addressed the nation in a WHITE HOUSE PRESS RELEASE, asked his pandemic team to research injecting disinfectants into the human body to see if it would cure the Corona Virus- AND NOT ONE TRUMP SUPPORTER STOOD UP TO SAY THAT WAS THE MOST RIDICULOUS AND RECKLESS THING ANY ONE COULD SAY- MUCH LESS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.....

I knew then- WE ARE DEALING WITH IDIOTS WHO HAVE NOT A CLUE ABOUT SCIENCE!

YES FOLKS- TRUMP AND HIS TRUMPTARDS ARE THE MOST UNEDUCATED FOOLISH PEOPLE ON THE PLANET!

JUST IGNORE THEM!

Here is an expression I will never forget!

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... but only to point out that Trump's entire political career has been about racism and conspiracy theories. Which I think is pretty fair.
No, it's absurd.

The Birther conspiracy was his first political conspiracy
How was that a "conspiracy." Obama never produced a valid, original birth certificate and here you are BLAMING someone (Trump) for demanding to see it. Obama was REQUIRED to produce it. Every and all Americans had the right to see it before allowing Obama to assume the Presidency ... ergo you are the problem here. You should be thanking Trump for remaining vigilant on that matter on behalf of We the People. Nobody should be allowed to become President who is not a natural born citizen.

I too wanted to see Obama's birth certificate. Am I therefore a "conspiracy theorist"?

... and after it was debunked,
It was never debunked. Obama never produced a valid, original, born-in-the-US birth certificate. It seems pretty clear he doesn't have one. He obviously was never eligible to be President yet I'm willing to move on. Why can't you?

... he refused to apologize for it.
I refuse to apologize for having wanted to see Obama's birth certificate. I refuse to apologize for having noticed that Obama never became eligible to be President. What does that make me?

I've seen Fashies bring it up about as often as Leftists.
Fascists are Leftists. Libertarians are Rightists.

For the Left, it's a reminder that we should have known Trump would be this way in the beginning.
What "way" is that? Observant?

Obama was Never Eligible
 
How was that a "conspiracy." Obama never produced a valid, original birth certificate and here you are BLAMING someone (Trump) for demanding to see it. Obama was REQUIRED to produce it. Every and all Americans had the right to see it before allowing Obama to assume the Presidency ... ergo you are the problem here. You should be thanking Trump for remaining vigilant on that matter on behalf of We the People. Nobody should be allowed to become President who is not a natural born citizen.

How come Trump never showed us his birth certificate? One of his parents was an immigrant too. Maybe he was born in the UK.
How many other candidates were REQUIRED to show a birth certificate? Is it only the black ones?

I too wanted to see Obama's birth certificate. Am I therefore a "conspiracy theorist"?

Well you're an NPC. You have to agree with everything the Right does.

It was never debunked. Obama never produced a valid, original, born-in-the-US birth certificate. It seems pretty clear he doesn't have one. He obviously was never eligible to be President yet I'm willing to move on. Why can't you?

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

What "way" is that? Observant?

Willing to latch on to any conspiracy theory, especially the racial ones, that help his political career.
 
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