Liberal tried to assassinate Trump over fear he would become president

Sandford, who has a United Kingdom driver's license
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We need to build a wall & keep these ppl out, all of them in this country now illegally should be deported to Mexico. @ some point friends, mustn't we ask ourselves that unpleasant question, can these ppl actually live side by side us civilized folks??
 
We need to change labor laws so that illegal labor is no longer a benefit to big agra.

Trump's wall idea is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.

But it does seem that the fear mongering from the left about Trump is driving people to violent actions. I thought the left was against that kind of talk. Remember Gifford? The left immediately blamed right wing rhetoric, only to find out it had nothing to do with that, the guy was just plain nuts.
 
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?69336-Build-a-wall-to-keep-Brits-out

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The Hitler comparisons are idiotic; but people who don't know any better might think they'd actually be saving the country by shooting him.
 
Seahawk said:
You don't think the rhetoric against Trump is responsible, remotely, somewhat, or at all?
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I think some people are crazy, misguided or sometimes, both. I think the hate against Trump is because of his words and actions. I don't think shooting him is the answer to getting rid of him.

This will elevate his value in his own eyes. It may also make him reconsider the office of President. It isn't an easy job and I don't think Trump's attention span is long enough.
 
Rana said:
Then you know little of fascism and how Hitler got his start.
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Really? The situations are the same? Germany was defeated and the citizens felt very insecure about their place in the world. The news was nothing like it is now. Hitler was able to accomplish the biggest mass murder in history because, not alone, but those two things.

Do you really believe Trump could pull of a Hitler?
 
Rana said:
I think some people are crazy, misguided or sometimes, both. I think the hate against Trump is because of his words and actions. I don't think shooting him is the answer to getting rid of him.

This will elevate his value in his own eyes. It may also make him reconsider the office of President. It isn't an easy job and I don't think Trump's attention span is long enough.
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You did avoid my question entirely.

Yes, there are crazy people. Remember Gifford when the left immediately blamed right wing rhetoric? What was your stance then?

I honestly agree with you about him being the President. I can't imagine him being watched 24/7 and dealing with it and then dealing with countries and heads of state that are not his employees. He is a CEO who seems to rule with a me, me, me, me approach and I'm the boss and that's it approach. He is not a CEO who I imagine inspires people to be better. But, he does run a billion dollar empire and is successful. Not sure that will correlate to being the President of the USA.

But each president has their own abilities and leadership style. Bush was a complete buffoon, yet he managed to keep the country intact for 8 years. I really believe that there are powers that be that control this country and the president, while not a figure head exactly, is allowed to drive the country in a certain direction, but the powers will not allow that direction to be off a cliff.
 
Seahawk said:
We need to change labor laws so that illegal labor is no longer a benefit to big agra.

Trump's wall idea is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.

But it does seem that the fear mongering from the left about Trump is driving people to violent actions. I thought the left was against that kind of talk. Remember Gifford? The left immediately blamed right wing rhetoric, only to find out it had nothing to do with that, the guy was just plain nuts.
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So it is the American left that is cuasing Brit terrorism in this country??

Dude, r u serious??:palm:
 
Rana said:
Then you know little of fascism and how Hitler got his start.
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I do actually. The comparison is stupid. Hitler was an anti-Semite and a supremacist. Before he came into power he would have his thugs beat his ideological opponents up in the streets of Berlin.

Trumps people are getting beat up. But that doesn't even make Bernie a fascist. It's a cheap political shot and it's intellectually lazy to call Trump a Hitler.
 
Seahawk said:
Did I say it was?

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Don't try to play dumb now....... Your title is blaming the American left, oh, perhaps you meant the British left?? :rolleyes:


fear mongering from the left about Trump is driving people to violent actions

The foreign devil is responsible for his own actions & may be part of a much bigger British terror cell/s...
 
Bill said:
Don't try to play dumb now....... Your title is blaming the American left, oh, perhaps you meant the British left?? :rolleyes:


fear mongering from the left about Trump is driving people to violent actions

The foreign devil is responsible for his own actions & may be part of a much bigger British terror cell/s...
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You're being dumb, I simply said left.

But go ahead and pretend this has nothing to do with left wing rhetoric. Did this happen to McCain or Romney? I don't recall so.

Or did it?

Is left wing rhetoric responsible?
 
Seahawk said:
Really? The situations are the same? Germany was defeated and the citizens felt very insecure about their place in the world. The news was nothing like it is now. Hitler was able to accomplish the biggest mass murder in history because, not alone, but those two things.

Do you really believe Trump could pull of a Hitler?
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Hitler told the people they were exceptional and played on their feelings of disenfranchisement. Trump does this as well.

Security rules at Trump rallies, his security controls what is said, "We love Trump" is allowed. if you say anything derogatory, you are removed from the premises. Hitler also censured speech.

He is revoking press credentials, anyone writing anything bad about Trump is denied access to his campaign. People should be very worried about his denial of free speech, especially when you censor the press. The Founders realized how important a free press is to a free society.

People sitting back and ignoring all his bigoted remarks, stating that they don't agree with them, but they like other things about Trump. People had the same attitude about Hitler which allowed for his policies.

Alienating certain undesirable groups of people for the promise of safety. Wanting to use violence as a means to deal with people with which you don't agree.

Fascist promise to deliver the people from politics, without any clear cut plan, but always promising action and results.

ROBERT PAXTON: Well, I think that Donald Trump shows a rather alarming willingness to use fascist themes and fascist styles, which—and the response this gets, the positive response, is alarming.
ROBERT PAXTON: Well, fascism is a mass nationalist movement intended to restore a country that’s been damaged or is in decline, by expansion, by violent attacks on enemies, internal as well as external enemies, and measures of authority, the replacement of democracy by an authoritarian dictatorship.
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/15/father_of_fascism_studies_donald_trump


This comparison isn't saying that Trump will end up executing millions of people, it is only showing the ways Hitler controlled the people, the press and the lead up to his dictatorship. Trump has used some of these in his rise to the nomination.
 
Seahawk said:
You're being dumb, I simply said left.

But go ahead and pretend this has nothing to do with left wing rhetoric. Did this happen to McCain or Romney? I don't recall so.
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No & it didn't happen to a lot of other ppl~~~~~ SO WHAT!!!

ANyway, have a fun day...:)
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
I do actually. The comparison is stupid. Hitler was an anti-Semite and a supremacist. Before he came into power he would have his thugs beat his ideological opponents up in the streets of Berlin.

Trumps people are getting beat up. But that doesn't even make Bernie a fascist. It's a cheap political shot and it's intellectually lazy to call Trump a Hitler.
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I did not ever see Bernie encouraging people to "punch them in their face" and it is a valid and necessary comparison, the rise of Hitler happened very slowly and Trump uses some of his techniques. Trump would have his protestors beaten if he could. Thankfully, he was shut down pretty quickly on encouraging violence and I think became a little fearful when violence started to be used against him.
 
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