Libertarians for Feingold

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Timshel

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I fully agree with this guy. Russ Feingold deserves libertarian support.

And another thing.... I remember arguing that Feingold was very libertarian while dems said no way and took offense. Looks like Russ agrees with me.

http://northparkstreet.com/2010/10/a-libertarian-rating-of-russ-feingold-and-ron-johnson/

In case you don’t follow my every move, I ran into Wisconsin Senator Russ Feingold a while ago walking down the street.

Mike, the friend I was with at the time, and I started chatting with him and when he asked us if we were voting for him we told him we weren’t sure and that we were Ron Paul libertarians. He then told us that outside of Ron Paul he was one of the most libertarian leaning members of Congress and briefly outlined the case for him over Johnson. At first I was skeptical, but after some thought I began to warm up to the idea. I knew Johnson was no libertarian, but didn’t think Feingold was much of one either and decided that some sort of side by side comparison was in order both to test Feingold’s claim and to figure out who libertarians should vote for.
 
Are you serious? Did you read the article? Sure he has some libertarian ideas, but Jeebus, he's no libertarian. His social shit as not even close.
 
RStringfield said:
I fully agree with this guy. Russ Feingold deserves libertarian support.

And another thing.... I remember arguing that Feingold was very libertarian while dems said no way and took offense. Looks like Russ agrees with me.

http://northparkstreet.com/2010/10/a-libertarian-rating-of-russ-feingold-and-ron-johnson/

In case you don’t follow my every move, I ran into Wisconsin Senator Russ Feingold a while ago walking down the street.

Mike, the friend I was with at the time, and I started chatting with him and when he asked us if we were voting for him we told him we weren’t sure and that we were Ron Paul libertarians. He then told us that outside of Ron Paul he was one of the most libertarian leaning members of Congress and briefly outlined the case for him over Johnson. At first I was skeptical, but after some thought I began to warm up to the idea. I knew Johnson was no libertarian, but didn’t think Feingold was much of one either and decided that some sort of side by side comparison was in order both to test Feingold’s claim and to figure out who libertarians should vote for.
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So basically you want to trust a politician who ONLY said he was Libertarian after he realized he was talking to Ron Paul Libertarian supporters who
would obviously be receptive to hearing that.

Want an obvious example of that from your own link? Cato gives him plenty of big fat zeros for free trade based on his voting record while the interview gives him an 8 out of 10 based on his stated opinion.
http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rati...3361&type=category&category=63&go.x=7&go.y=13

In the 2008 election, despite having nearly identical voting records to within just 2% differential, John Edwards pretended to be the protectionist/populist, Hillary the blue collar working class candidate and Obama the Liberal progressive guy (at least he was the honest one here).
No one should give a fuck how politicians want to sound when they get a chance to play dressup and target certain voters, just look at their voting record - the only thing that should ever count.

I do agree that unlike almost every other Democrat, Feingold walks the walk on civil liberties issues, but the article you have divides it too favorably with a third of importance going to war votes, a third to civil liberties and a third to economic issues. When the usual standard is too split them up half to economic issues and half to the social issues. When you think about the vast majority of the budget going to social welfare programs like Medicare, Medicaid and SS, then other fiscal issues like education, environment; not to mention that these are WAY more important than ever given the debt and effect to our future.
On social issues Feingold is against gun owners and for affirmative action.

In summary he is just like every other Liberal Democrat but actually follows through on civil liberties votes. Not near enough.
 
Any Libertarian who throws support in for Feingold needs to seriously re-evaluate his Libertarian leanings. His gun voting record alone fails Libertarian philosophy wholesale.
 
Beefy said:
Are you serious? Did you read the article? Sure he has some libertarian ideas, but Jeebus, he's no libertarian. His social shit as not even close.
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Yes, I read it and agree he is one of the ten most libertarian members of congress.

"Social shit"??? What do you mean by that? He's libertarian on war and civil liberties (excepting speech). He sucks on economics. Lot of Democrats talk a good game on civil liberties and war but nearly all of them are full of shit. Feingold is more libertarian in deed than nearly every Republican.
 
KingCondanomation said:
So basically you want to trust a politician who ONLY said he was Libertarian after he realized he was talking to Ron Paul Libertarian supporters who
would obviously be receptive to hearing that.
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I don't give a fuck what he said. His votes are more libertarian than nearly all the Republicans. He is certainly more libertarian than Bush or McCain and the other big government Republicans you support.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
the lesser of two evils is still evil.
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Feingold is not evil. He is a decent and honest man that has stuck to his convictions even when it was unpopular, e.g., he is the ONLY senator to vote against the patriot act.

Feingold has shown a commitment to the 2nd amendment, while this guy Johnson seems to be just another wishy-washy, incoherent and dishonest republican who claims to support limited government while doing nothing but supporting more and more government at every turn.

Johnson has made it clear that he will support "popular" limits on guns. Limits on guns are not very popular right now, though. If there is any new charge against guns it will likely be wrapped in bigotry, against Mexicans, blacks or Muslims, just as it always has.
 
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