Madison Square Garden opened in 1968 and was not the venue for a 1930s "Nazi" rally...

Damocles

Damocles

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Madison Square Garden Center (as it was originally called) was never the venue of a 1930s Nazi Rally. Unless it traveled back in time as part of a hilarious and epically funny sitcom where it got into silly antics, almost became its own father, and, apparently, even tried to trap thousands of Nazis into embarrassing themselves within its hallowed halls.

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The idea that just because something almost shared a venue, but really didn't as the building didn't exist, nearly 100 years apart it means that they are the same thing is absurd itself. If that were the case then every single basketball game played in the Garden has been a Nazi Rally. Well, it would be that way if it happened to actually be the place where Nazis met... however it opened on February 11th, 1968, and it was not the venue where the Nazis met... Not even by the way that hilariously and expertly (also very convincingly, you know you wanted to watch it) pitched sitcom idea's time travelling hilarity suggested.
 
EVERY boxing fan knows that there have been four Madison Square Gardens,
including two that were actually in Madison Square.

A good percentage of us have been to the present one.
Some for concerts, some for conventions, some for basketball, some for hockey, me for boxing.

The present one at Penn Station is part of the Madison Square Garden heritage,
and every event at every one of them is part of the same Madison Square Garden tradition and history.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
EVERY boxing fan knows that there have been four Madison Square Gardens,
including two that were actually in Madison Square.

A good percentage of us have been to the present one.
Some for concerts, some for conventions, some for basketball, some for hockey, me for boxing.

The present one at Penn Station is part of the Madison Square Garden heritage,
and every event at every one of them is part of the same Madison Square Garden tradition and history.
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One thing that I know, that the ghosts of Madison Square Building Past are not causing every basketball game in the Garden to become Nazi Klan Rallies at the newest building. That's made up leftist nonsense. These two things didn't even share a venue.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
EVERY boxing fan knows that there have been four Madison Square Gardens,
including two that were actually in Madison Square.

A good percentage of us have been to the present one.
Some for concerts, some for conventions, some for basketball, some for hockey, me for boxing.

The present one at Penn Station is part of the Madison Square Garden heritage,
and every event at every one of them is part of the same Madison Square Garden tradition and history.
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so you're a nazi then?
 
Damocles said:
One thing that I know, that the ghosts of Madison Square Building Past are not causing every basketball game in the Garden to become Nazi Klan Rallies at the newest building. That's made up leftist nonsense. These two things didn't even share a venue.
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Nobody is blaming the venue for anything.

They're just making the obvious comparison between NAZIs and trumpanzees, the current version.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Nobody is blaming the venue for anything.

They're just making the obvious comparison between NAZIs and trumpanzees, the current version.
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nonsense... Y'all were saying it was "horrible" because it was the venue of a "nazi rally" before the rally even took place. You like to pretend that wasn't what you were saying, but it was.

Then they get upset when a comedian tells a joke they didn't like and pretend it means the same thing as wanting to cleanse Europe of all the Jews.

No Nazi rally ever had Jews, black folks, Asians, etc. speaking at it either. I get that you don't like Trump, but being an idiot Trumpist is not something to be proud of, you have to ignore history to get there and I think most of the folks here have the potential to be better than that.
 
Damocles said:
nonsense... Y'all were saying it was "horrible" because it was the venue of a "nazi rally" before the rally even took place. You like to pretend that wasn't what you were saying, but it was.

Then they get upset when a comedian tells a joke they didn't like and pretend it means the same thing as wanting to cleanse Europe of all the Jews.

No Nazi rally ever had Jews, black folks, Asians, etc. speaking at it either. I get that you don't like Trump, but being an idiot Trumpist is not something to be proud of, you have to ignore history to get there and I think most of the folks here have the potential to be better than that.
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thank you for your greatness.
 
MSG was open long before 68' as a kid in the 50's we always saw the circus there

Opened: 1879, 1890, 1925; (former locations); February 11, 1968; (current location)

So much for ignorant gobbers in flyover country


History of Madison Square Garden​


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Learn more about Madison Square Garden's history and Madison Square Garden facts with an illustrious history of operating the world's premier venues.
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Damocles said:
Madison Square Garden Center (as it was originally called) was never the venue of a 1930s Nazi Rally. Unless it traveled back in time as part of a hilarious and epically funny sitcom where it got into silly antics, almost became its own father, and, apparently, even tried to trap thousands of Nazis into embarrassing themselves within its hallowed halls.

en.wikipedia.org

Madison Square Garden - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

The idea that just because something almost shared a venue, but really didn't as the building didn't exist, nearly 100 years apart it means that they are the same thing is absurd itself. If that were the case then every single basketball game played in the Garden has been a Nazi Rally. Well, it would be that way if it happened to actually be the place where Nazis met... however it opened on February 11th, 1968, and it was not the venue where the Nazis met... Not even by the way that hilariously and expertly (also very convincingly, you know you wanted to watch it) pitched sitcom idea's time travelling hilarity suggested.
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What are you even talking about? Who said anything about a Nazi rally?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Reality often has little to nothing to do with American narratives.
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Guno צְבִי said:
MSG was open long before 68' as a kid in the 50's we always saw the circus there

Opened: 1879, 1890, 1925; (former locations); February 11, 1968; (current location)

So much for ignorant gobbers in flyover country


History of Madison Square Garden​


Madison Square Garden Facts & History | MSG | Official Site

Learn more about Madison Square Garden's history and Madison Square Garden facts with an illustrious history of operating the world's premier venues.
www.msg.com www.msg.com
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yeah back in the 50's Jews were only allowed to work at the circus, so this makes sense.
 
Damocles said:
Madison Square Garden Center (as it was originally called) was never the venue of a 1930s Nazi Rally. Unless it traveled back in time as part of a hilarious and epically funny sitcom where it got into silly antics, almost became its own father, and, apparently, even tried to trap thousands of Nazis into embarrassing themselves within its hallowed halls.

en.wikipedia.org

Madison Square Garden - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

The idea that just because something almost shared a venue, but really didn't as the building didn't exist, nearly 100 years apart it means that they are the same thing is absurd itself. If that were the case then every single basketball game played in the Garden has been a Nazi Rally. Well, it would be that way if it happened to actually be the place where Nazis met... however it opened on February 11th, 1968, and it was not the venue where the Nazis met... Not even by the way that hilariously and expertly (also very convincingly, you know you wanted to watch it) pitched sitcom idea's time travelling hilarity suggested.
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On February 20, 1939, a Nazi rally took place at Madison Square Garden, organized by the German American Bund. More than 20,000 people attended, and Fritz Julius Kuhn was a featured speaker.
 
On the evening of Feb. 20, 1939, the marquee of New York's Madison Square Garden was lit up with the evening's main event: a "Pro American Rally." The organizers had chosen the date in celebration of George Washington's birthday and had procured a 30-foot-tall banner of America's first president for the stage. More than 20,000 men and women streamed inside and took their seats. The view they had was stunning: Washington was hung between American flags — and swastikas.

The rally was sponsored by the German American Bund, an organization with headquarters in Manhattan and thousands of members across the United States. In the 1930s, the Bund was one of several organizations in the United States that were openly supportive of Adolf Hitler and the rise of fascism in Europe. They had parades, bookstores and summer camps for youth. Their vision for America was a cocktail of white supremacy, fascist ideology and American patriotism.

At Madison Square Garden, the rally opened with the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag. The mood was jubilant. Attendees wore Nazi armbands, waved American flags and held aloft posters with slogans like "Stop Jewish Domination of Christian America." There were storm troopers in the aisles, their uniforms almost identical to those of Nazi Germany. "It looked like any political rally — only with a Nazi twist," said Arnie Bernstein, author of Swastika Nation.

The speeches were explicitly anti-Semitic, and tirades against "job-taking Jewish refugees" were met with thunderous applause. "They demanded a white gentile America. They denounced Roosevelt as 'Rosenfeld,' to say that Roosevelt was in the pocket of rich Jews," said Sarah Churchwell, author of Behold, America. In equal measure to the xenophobia, the speeches were loaded with American boosterism.

 
Guno צְבִי said:
MSG was open long before 68' as a kid in the 50's we always saw the circus there

Opened: 1879, 1890, 1925; (former locations); February 11, 1968; (current location)

So much for ignorant gobbers in flyover country


History of Madison Square Garden​


Madison Square Garden Facts & History | MSG | Official Site

Learn more about Madison Square Garden's history and Madison Square Garden facts with an illustrious history of operating the world's premier venues.
www.msg.com www.msg.com
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Which still doesn't change that the building this rally was held in opened in 1968. Seriously. Catch up.
 
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