make cops carry liability insurance for accountability

https://www.cato.org/publications/c...surance-private-sector-knows-how-spread-risks

Earlier this month, Brooklyn resident Oliver Wiggins received a $1 million settlement after NYPD officers crashed into his car and then tried to blame him for the accident by falsely accusing him of driving while intoxicated.

In 2015, the family of Eric Garner reached a settlement for $5.9 million after police applied a banned chokehold while arresting him for selling loose cigarettes outside a convenience store on Staten Island. That same year, families of victims of murders committed long ago by “Mafia Cops” Louis Eppolito and Stephen Caracappa settled their cases, bringing the total paid out to more than $18 million.

Those sums might be anomalies, but the trend is clear. The total payout for injuries caused by NYPD officers in 2017 was an unprecedented $308.2 million (up from a “mere” $92.4 million in 2007, and $152 million in 2012). That money didn’t come out of the pockets of the officers responsible for the misconduct; the bills were covered by you, the taxpayer.

That’s because police departments nearly always pick up the tab for damages caused by the officers they employ. Indeed, a 2014 study found that 99.98% of all dollars received by plaintiffs in civil rights cases against police officers were paid not by the officers themselves, but by their departments.

Fortunately, there is a better policy that is more fair to taxpayers — and has the substantial side benefit of creating strong incentives for police to avoid hurting innocent people.

Like police, doctors have a difficult and stressful job that sometimes involves making life-or-death decisions under conditions of uncertainty. But unlike police, doctors don’t expect the rest of us to pay for their mistakes. Instead, doctors carry professional liability insurance, which pays to defend them against malpractice claims and protects them from financial ruin by paying out damage awards to successful plaintiffs.

Insurance companies are exceptionally good at identifying risk. Think about car insurance. The more accidents or speeding tickets a driver has had, the higher their premiums will be. The same is true for teenagers, who tend to get in more wrecks than adults and therefore represent a greater risk to the insurance company.

Instead of spreading those risks among all of their policyholders, insurance companies charge risky drivers more while giving a break to their safest drivers, who pay less.

Consider how that could work with police. Most misconduct is committed by a relatively small fraction of cops. Former NYPD Commissioner Bill Bratton defended “the vast, vast, vast majority, that 99%” who do their work well, while saying “the brutal, the corrupt, the racist, the incompetent” must face consequences.

Unfortunately, police departments have a hard time getting rid of their own bad apples: For example, the officers who tried to frame Wiggins are still employed by the NYPD; no charges have been filed against them.

But insurance companies have powerful incentives to identify the greatest risks — whether drivers, doctors or cops — and charge them accordingly. If cops had to carry insurance, the worst offenders would quickly be identified and charged higher rates. If they failed to clean up their act, they would eventually become uninsurable and thus unemployable.

This is the policy change we need to better align police incentives with public safety and respect for constitutional rights. Police officers are engaged in a profession that, while indispensably crucial, also poses serious risk, and that risk is causing taxpayers to foot an enormous bill when the officers fail to meet the standard of care.

One objection is that police are already doing a difficult and dangerous job for relatively low pay, and it would be unfair to saddle them with the additional cost of insuring themselves.

No problem. We can take that pot of taxpayer money currently being used to pay damage awards for misbehaving cops — $308 million in payouts last year divided by 34,000 uniformed NYPD officers equals nearly $10,000 per cop — and use it to give them an insurance allowance.

When very-high-risk officers see premiums go up, they would have to pay the difference out of their own pockets. That’s fair.

The relationship between police and many of the communities they serve is in a state of crisis. Much of that is due to a perception that police are insufficiently respectful of people’s rights and too quick to use force.

Private liability insurance provides an extremely powerful tool for distinguishing between the best and the worst cops. The time has come to use it.
 
The officer should have to pony up a percentage of the lost suits. Why should tax payers cover their illegal acts. there was a Detroit cop a few years ago that caused 5 one million dollar + suits. If he had to kick in, he probably would have stopped at one.
 
I can tell you that they do it more often if they know they can get away with it. The cop should be on the hook and he should have insurance to cover it. See, tax payer should not have to cover it.

The PD will get sued either way as a co-defendant, as well as anybody else the lawyer can think of because that is how it goes down. That is who the lawyer wants to pay out anyway. To get to the cop personally you would need to show that he acted outside his scope of employment, but in so doing, you would be letting the government off the hook and less likely getting nearly as much money if you win.
 
The PD will get sued either way as a co-defendant, as well as anybody else the lawyer can think of because that is how it goes down. That is who the lawyer wants to pay out anyway. To get to the cop personally you would need to show that he acted outside his scope of employment, but in so doing, you would be letting the government off the hook and less likely getting nearly as much money if you win.

Of course you totally missed it. the cop would have to pony up a percentage. How does that let the government off the hook? they still have to pay. They hired him, trained him and supervised him. 90 percent of a million dollars is not off the hook.
 
Of course you totally missed it. the cop would have to pony up a percentage. How does that let the government off the hook? they still have to pay. They hired him, trained him and supervised him. 90 percent of a million dollars is not off the hook.

No I didn't miss the point. I understand master-servant law when it comes to liability. You do not.
 
https://www.cato.org/publications/c...surance-private-sector-knows-how-spread-risks

Earlier this month, Brooklyn resident Oliver Wiggins received a $1 million settlement after NYPD officers crashed into his car and then tried to blame him for the accident by falsely accusing him of driving while intoxicated.

In 2015, the family of Eric Garner reached a settlement for $5.9 million after police applied a banned chokehold while arresting him for selling loose cigarettes outside a convenience store on Staten Island. That same year, families of victims of murders committed long ago by “Mafia Cops” Louis Eppolito and Stephen Caracappa settled their cases, bringing the total paid out to more than $18 million.

Those sums might be anomalies, but the trend is clear. The total payout for injuries caused by NYPD officers in 2017 was an unprecedented $308.2 million (up from a “mere” $92.4 million in 2007, and $152 million in 2012). That money didn’t come out of the pockets of the officers responsible for the misconduct; the bills were covered by you, the taxpayer.

That’s because police departments nearly always pick up the tab for damages caused by the officers they employ. Indeed, a 2014 study found that 99.98% of all dollars received by plaintiffs in civil rights cases against police officers were paid not by the officers themselves, but by their departments.

Fortunately, there is a better policy that is more fair to taxpayers — and has the substantial side benefit of creating strong incentives for police to avoid hurting innocent people.

Like police, doctors have a difficult and stressful job that sometimes involves making life-or-death decisions under conditions of uncertainty. But unlike police, doctors don’t expect the rest of us to pay for their mistakes. Instead, doctors carry professional liability insurance, which pays to defend them against malpractice claims and protects them from financial ruin by paying out damage awards to successful plaintiffs.

Insurance companies are exceptionally good at identifying risk. Think about car insurance. The more accidents or speeding tickets a driver has had, the higher their premiums will be. The same is true for teenagers, who tend to get in more wrecks than adults and therefore represent a greater risk to the insurance company.

Instead of spreading those risks among all of their policyholders, insurance companies charge risky drivers more while giving a break to their safest drivers, who pay less.

Consider how that could work with police. Most misconduct is committed by a relatively small fraction of cops. Former NYPD Commissioner Bill Bratton defended “the vast, vast, vast majority, that 99%” who do their work well, while saying “the brutal, the corrupt, the racist, the incompetent” must face consequences.

Unfortunately, police departments have a hard time getting rid of their own bad apples: For example, the officers who tried to frame Wiggins are still employed by the NYPD; no charges have been filed against them.

But insurance companies have powerful incentives to identify the greatest risks — whether drivers, doctors or cops — and charge them accordingly. If cops had to carry insurance, the worst offenders would quickly be identified and charged higher rates. If they failed to clean up their act, they would eventually become uninsurable and thus unemployable.

This is the policy change we need to better align police incentives with public safety and respect for constitutional rights. Police officers are engaged in a profession that, while indispensably crucial, also poses serious risk, and that risk is causing taxpayers to foot an enormous bill when the officers fail to meet the standard of care.

One objection is that police are already doing a difficult and dangerous job for relatively low pay, and it would be unfair to saddle them with the additional cost of insuring themselves.

No problem. We can take that pot of taxpayer money currently being used to pay damage awards for misbehaving cops — $308 million in payouts last year divided by 34,000 uniformed NYPD officers equals nearly $10,000 per cop — and use it to give them an insurance allowance.

When very-high-risk officers see premiums go up, they would have to pay the difference out of their own pockets. That’s fair.

The relationship between police and many of the communities they serve is in a state of crisis. Much of that is due to a perception that police are insufficiently respectful of people’s rights and too quick to use force.

Private liability insurance provides an extremely powerful tool for distinguishing between the best and the worst cops. The time has come to use it.

How is this going to fix what we as a society refuse to deal with?
 
The OP's post is dumb and without merit.

It insinuates that life has a price tag - maybe it does for colored people when there family member get's shot.
 
How about just prosecuting kops who murder unarmed citizens?

Maybe then, other kops won't be so trigger happy.
 
How about just prosecuting kops who murder unarmed citizens?

Maybe then, other kops won't be so trigger happy.

have you not been paying attention? to even get a case before a judge and jury, you have to get past a DA who is usually too close to the cops in question.......and IF you should get a DA to want to press charges, then you have to get past a grand jury who is usually all too willing to give a pass to cops because they've been brainwashed to believe that cops are all good and have a hard job to do.....and IF you actually get past those two hurdles, then you have to get a judge who will not dismiss charges due to the 'reasonable' doctrine......of which cops get way more reasonable leeway than civilians do.
 
How about just prosecuting kops who murder unarmed citizens?

Maybe then, other kops won't be so trigger happy.

It's like this man, if you get shot you probably deserve it. It's really quite simple. OBEY THE OFFICERS COMMANDS. He will not shoot you unless he feels threatened.
 
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