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tinfoil said:
cool! here's the entire lecture
YouTube - Global Warming -- The Current Status: The Science, the Scandal, the Prospects for a Treaty
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You dumbos will never get it, will you.
You are so obsessed at trying to prove your extreme right wing stupidity that you cannot see the truth when it is thrust into your tongue-lolling maw.

It is not difficult to take any set of data and dissect it to show an alternative result. But, hey, this asshole is saying what you 'know' to be true, right?

It doesn't matter what some yank half wit professor says. He's probably got a book on the stocks or he's trying to up his appearance fees.

And this is exactly how you do it!

The climate is changing. OK? Its undeniable. Note, I did not say it is going up, nor did I say it was changing in america. Globally the climate is changing. Incontravertable.

Is it man made? Well, the right wants you to believe that intelligent people say that it is all man's fault. Now if we can accept that, then prove that it isnt ALL man's fault, we win, huh... and if we win we can undermine Obama!!!! WTF!!!!

Now, just for one moment, one tiny moment, let's look at the truth.

The climate of planet earth is changing. It has NEVER been static, but now we are actually witnessing change. Who gives? Well, many yanks cannot accept that they MIGHT be part of the problem. They are f***** yanks for chrissakes. They NEVER take responsibility for jack shit!!!

So it's changing. The Maldives, for example, might disappear withing a decade. Don't give a shit? OK.

What happens when food prices rocket? you ain't seen nutt'n yet! What happens when the fish you catch off your coast migrate to different seas? What happens when, to grow the foods you like, you have to heat or ventillate the greenhouses?

Are you going to blame your president? Are you going to blame some foreign scientists? OR WILL YOU BLAME YOURSELVES for being asleep and ignoring the warnings?
Sleep on, for that is what stupid people do. Sleep on and one day you will awake and it will be too late.
 
LOL the dumbass is calling me an idiot for posting the lecture of a Berkeley scientist.
 
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Thats hilarious....Lowaicue whining because the warmers made a fool of him....
and he wants to blame the right....
That big dumb post of his to say literally nothing....except that he is still a brainwashed warmer that can't accept the fact hes being played for a fool....
He still buys the bullshit in face of the lie being exposed and explained to him...

He is so obsessed at trying to prove his extreme left wing stupidity that he cannot see the truth when it is thrust into his tongue-lolling maw. (sound familiar?)
 
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Lowaicue said:
You dumbos will never get it, will you.
You are so obsessed at trying to prove your extreme right wing stupidity that you cannot see the truth when it is thrust into your tongue-lolling maw.

It is not difficult to take any set of data and dissect it to show an alternative result. But, hey, this asshole is saying what you 'know' to be true, right?

It doesn't matter what some yank half wit professor says. He's probably got a book on the stocks or he's trying to up his appearance fees.

And this is exactly how you do it!

The climate is changing. OK? Its undeniable. Note, I did not say it is going up, nor did I say it was changing in america. Globally the climate is changing. Incontravertable.

Is it man made? Well, the right wants you to believe that intelligent people say that it is all man's fault. Now if we can accept that, then prove that it isnt ALL man's fault, we win, huh... and if we win we can undermine Obama!!!! WTF!!!!

Now, just for one moment, one tiny moment, let's look at the truth.

The climate of planet earth is changing. It has NEVER been static, but now we are actually witnessing change. Who gives? Well, many yanks cannot accept that they MIGHT be part of the problem. They are f***** yanks for chrissakes. They NEVER take responsibility for jack shit!!!

So it's changing. The Maldives, for example, might disappear withing a decade. Don't give a shit? OK.

What happens when food prices rocket? you ain't seen nutt'n yet! What happens when the fish you catch off your coast migrate to different seas? What happens when, to grow the foods you like, you have to heat or ventillate the greenhouses?

Are you going to blame your president? Are you going to blame some foreign scientists? OR WILL YOU BLAME YOURSELVES for being asleep and ignoring the warnings?
Sleep on, for that is what stupid people do. Sleep on and one day you will awake and it will be too late.
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One of world's leading experts is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel Mörner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change. He begs to differ on the hysteria about rising levels.

If one thing more than any other is used to justify proposals that the world must spend tens of trillions of dollars on combating global warming, it is the belief that we face a disastrous rise in sea levels. The Antarctic and Greenland ice caps will melt, we are told, warming oceans will expand, and the result will be catastrophe.

Although the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) only predicts a sea level rise of 59cm (17 inches) by 2100, Al Gore in his Oscar-winning film An Inconvenient Truth went much further, talking of 20 feet, and showing computer graphics of cities such as Shanghai and San Francisco half under water. We all know the graphic showing central London in similar plight. As for tiny island nations such as the Maldives and Tuvalu, as Prince Charles likes to tell us and the Archbishop of Canterbury was again parroting last week, they are due to vanish.

But if there is one scientist who knows more about sea levels than anyone else in the world it is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel Mörner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change. And the uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story.

Despite fluctuations down as well as up, "the sea is not rising," he says. "It hasn't risen in 50 years." If there is any rise this century it will "not be more than 10cm (four inches), with an uncertainty of plus or minus 10cm". And quite apart from examining the hard evidence, he says, the elementary laws of physics (latent heat needed to melt ice) tell us that the apocalypse conjured up by Al Gore and Co could not possibly come about.

The reason why Dr Mörner, formerly a Stockholm professor, is so certain that these claims about sea level rise are 100 per cent wrong is that they are all based on computer model predictions, whereas his findings are based on "going into the field to observe what is actually happening in the real world".

When running the International Commission on Sea Level Change, he launched a special project on the Maldives, whose leaders have for 20 years been calling for vast sums of international aid to stave off disaster. Six times he and his expert team visited the islands, to confirm that the sea has not risen for half a century. Before announcing his findings, he offered to show the inhabitants a film explaining why they had nothing to worry about. The government refused to let it be shown.

Similarly in Tuvalu, where local leaders have been calling for the inhabitants to be evacuated for 20 years, the sea has if anything dropped in recent decades. The only evidence the scaremongers can cite is based on the fact that extracting groundwater for pineapple growing has allowed seawater to seep in to replace it. Meanwhile, Venice has been sinking rather than the Adriatic rising, says Dr Mörner.

One of his most shocking discoveries was why the IPCC has been able to show sea levels rising by 2.3mm a year. Until 2003, even its own satellite-based evidence showed no upward trend. But suddenly the graph tilted upwards because the IPCC's favoured experts had drawn on the finding of a single tide-gauge in Hong Kong harbour showing a 2.3mm rise. The entire global sea-level projection was then adjusted upwards by a "corrective factor" of 2.3mm, because, as the IPCC scientists admitted, they "needed to show a trend".

When I spoke to Dr Mörner last week, he expressed his continuing dismay at how the IPCC has fed the scare on this crucial issue. When asked to act as an "expert reviewer" on the IPCC's last two reports, he was "astonished to find that not one of their 22 contributing authors on sea levels was a sea level specialist: not one". Yet the results of all this "deliberate ignorance" and reliance on rigged computer models have become the most powerful single driver of the entire warmist hysteria.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...sea-levels-is-the-greatest-lie-ever-told.html
 
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tinfoil said:
LOL the dumbass is calling me an idiot for posting the lecture of a Berkeley scientist.
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One scientist from one ... what is a Berkeley? .. a school, a club for the demented?...oh yes, it is one - just one - of thousands of universities in hundreds of countries each with gaggles of professors and assistant professors all trying to get finance to study the subject of their choice. Many, incidentally, just stick their names on projects done by spotty faced youths during term time.
Now, I'm not accusing you of 'cherry picking', oh no. LOL.
 
bravo said:
Thats hilarious....Lowaicue whining because the warmers made a fool of him....
and he wants to blame the right....
That big dumb post of his to say literally nothing....except that he is still a brainwashed warmer that can't accept the fact hes being played for a fool....
He still buys the bullshit in face of the lie being exposed and explained to him...

He is so obsessed at trying to prove his extreme left wing stupidity that he cannot see the truth when it is thrust into his tongue-lolling maw. (sound familiar?)
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You have invented the term 'warmer'. I do not know nor do I care what you mean by it.

I am NOT saying the climate is warming to the detriment of the planet, I am simply saying that it is changing just as it has ALWAYS done and I am suggesting that we all recognise that and that societies start to consider those changes as they might affect them in the future. Because, for the first time in our history, we have the knowledge and ability to measure and extrapolate.

If you want to fall back on your 'binary' logic, I cannot stop you. If, like your countrymen (perhaps I should have ommitted th 'o'! to be more in line with american spelling) you feel it necessary to invent childish labels then so be it.

You cannot deny that the voiced hatred for your president by those of you whose once functioning brains have become addled, to a large extent drives the 'anti'-everything-that-comes-from-intelligent-people syndrome that is likely to make you and yours the laughing stock of the world.
 
Lowaicue said:
You have invented the term 'warmer'. I do not know nor do I care what you mean by it.

I am NOT saying the climate is warming to the detriment of the planet, I am simply saying that it is changing just as it has ALWAYS done and I am suggesting that we all recognise that and that societies start to consider those changes as they might affect them in the future. Because, for the first time in our history, we have the knowledge and ability to measure and extrapolate.

If you want to fall back on your 'binary' logic, I cannot stop you. If, like your countrymen (perhaps I should have ommitted th 'o'! to be more in line with american spelling) you feel it necessary to invent childish labels then so be it.

You cannot deny that the voiced hatred for your president by those of you whose once functioning brains have become addled, to a large extent drives the 'anti'-everything-that-comes-from-intelligent-people syndrome that is likely to make you and yours the laughing stock of the world.
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I'm gonna have 4 or 5 more pints and come back and see if I can figure out WTF you're talking about....
I gather you're unfamiliar with the term "warmer"....its been in use for a few years gaining in use as the term "birthers" became more common.

Of course the world climate is changing as it has always changed since the beginning, and we'll deal with those changes, to the best of our ability, as we've always have...

The fact is...the data that was held so dear as proof of what what called 'global warming caused by man and the industrial age' has been proven to be bullshit.....thats the new simple truth....

You say,
"Is it man made? Well, the right wants you to believe that intelligent people say that it is all man's fault.

Now if we can accept that, then prove that it isnt ALL man's fault, we win, huh... and if we win we can undermine Obama!!!! WTF!!!!

Fact is....its the 'left' that wants you to believe its man's fault

You rant, "Now, just for one moment, one tiny moment, let's look at the truth.

The climate of planet earth is changing. It has NEVER been static, but now we are actually witnessing change. Who gives? Well, many yanks cannot accept that they MIGHT be part of the problem. They are f***** yanks for chrissakes. They NEVER take responsibility for jack shit!!!

Yanks?...Why the fuck should yanks take responsibility for it...why not you idiot Brits....the fact is...man isn't causing any global change.

Then you rant,

"So it's changing. The Maldives, for example, might disappear withing a decade. Don't give a shit? OK.

What happens when food prices rocket? you ain't seen nutt'n yet! What happens when the fish you catch off your coast migrate to different seas? What happens when, to grow the foods you like, you have to heat or ventillate the greenhouses?

Are you going to blame your president? Are you going to blame some foreign scientists? OR WILL YOU BLAME YOURSELVES for being asleep and ignoring the warnings?
Sleep on, for that is what stupid people do. Sleep on and one day you will awake and it will be too late."

All bullshit....man didn't cause climate change....

ignoring warnings? We "yanks" don't ignore anything...we'll deal with the facts as they become evident and save your asses as we've done in the past.....so relax....
 
Lowaicue said:
You have invented the term 'warmer'. I do not know nor do I care what you mean by it.

I am NOT saying the climate is warming to the detriment of the planet, I am simply saying that it is changing just as it has ALWAYS done and I am suggesting that we all recognise that and that societies start to consider those changes as they might affect them in the future. Because, for the first time in our history, we have the knowledge and ability to measure and extrapolate.

If you want to fall back on your 'binary' logic, I cannot stop you. If, like your countrymen (perhaps I should have ommitted th 'o'! to be more in line with american spelling) you feel it necessary to invent childish labels then so be it.

You cannot deny that the voiced hatred for your president by those of you whose once functioning brains have become addled, to a large extent drives the 'anti'-everything-that-comes-from-intelligent-people syndrome that is likely to make you and yours the laughing stock of the world.
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If you care to do a search of this site you'll see you just iterated my position
 
tinfoil said:
If you care to do a search of this site you'll see you just iterated my position
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And if you care to engage what passes as a brain you might realise that I have repeated what I have said for several years.
You really want to create enemies, dont you, and you will jump on any bandwagon that you think is going in your direction.
You are thick.
I can't think of a nicer way to put it.
 
bravo said:


ignoring warnings? We "yanks" don't ignore anything...we'll deal with the facts as they become evident and save your asses as we've done in the past.....so relax....
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You ignore EVERYTHING that has been devised by any intelligence greater than yours... and that, my dear skate, is everything.
It is not without reason that the American stereotype is a cowboy hat wearing, loud mouthed, brain dead idiot.
 
Lowaicue said:
And if you care to engage what passes as a brain you might realise that I have repeated what I have said for several years.
You really want to create enemies, dont you, and you will jump on any bandwagon that you think is going in your direction.
You are thick.
I can't think of a nicer way to put it.
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I started the thread. I posted a lecture from a liberal college with a reputation for being super green. You called me an idiot while being ignorant of these simple facts. Now you seem to think I've jumped on a bandwagon? what the hell was your point? You said republicans were trying to fool people into being afraid of global warming. Nothing could be further from the truth, save the globalist estalishment repubs like Gingrich

You suck. Having you as an enemy is an asset
 
Lowaicue said:
One scientist from one ... what is a Berkeley? .. a school, a club for the demented?...oh yes, it is one - just one - of thousands of universities in hundreds of countries each with gaggles of professors and assistant professors all trying to get finance to study the subject of their choice. Many, incidentally, just stick their names on projects done by spotty faced youths during term time.
Now, I'm not accusing you of 'cherry picking', oh no. LOL.
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I just reread this post. I don't think you understand what you've been shown here. The first video details the hockey stick graph which was THE NUMBER 1 CITED IPCC CATASTROPHIC ANTHROPOGENIC GLOBAL WARMING STUDY THAT PROVED AN UNPRECEDENTED RATE OF WARMING BASED ON TREE RING DENSITY PROXY MEASUREMENTS, WHICH FAILED TO KEEP WITH THE EXPECTED RATE (WITH RESPECT TO THE KNOWN TEMPS FROM ACTUAL INSTRUMENTS) AND WERE THUSLY REPLACED BY REAL TEMPS FROM 1960 TO THE PRESENT TO "HIDE THE DECLINE" IN TREE RING DENSITY (WITH RESPECT TO co2 AND TEMP)


You don't even know what this about, do you?
 
tinfoil said:
I started the thread. I posted a lecture from a liberal college with a reputation for being super green. You called me an idiot while being ignorant of these simple facts. Now you seem to think I've jumped on a bandwagon? what the hell was your point? You said republicans were trying to fool people into being afraid of global warming. Nothing could be further from the truth, save the globalist estalishment repubs like Gingrich

You suck. Having you as an enemy is an asset
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I'm happy to concur.
 
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