Mother Russia vs Fatherland Germany

Yurty said:
Ships are women, Russia is a mother, but Germany is a father.

Why the difference?
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Yurty said:
Ships are women, Russia is a mother, but Germany is a father.

Why the difference?
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When the English language actually had grammatical genders, boats were male. The identification of boats with women among ancient benevolent misogynists did not have root in grammatical gender. Also various different languages with grammatical genders all identify ships as variously female, male, or neuter.

I'd also like to point out that Russians often use a term that means "fatherland" to refer to Russia.
 
Mother Russia goes back to the Mongols, sacking Kiev (then capital of Russia), making big parts of Russia belong to Khanates (or at least pay tribute or taxes).

What was left? The rest of the Russians hiding in forests that the Mongols could not be bothered with (while they went to the Rhine and wintered on the Hungarian plains).

Volga, as the trading route between the "still standing" and the "subjugated" parts of Russia was called "my Dear Mother (of Russia)". Have you not heard any of the most popular songs (other than the anthem when another Olympic medal is clocked)? So it is the name for an entity that, strictly speaking, for centuries was not a political entity.

When Russia entered the imperialist expansion stage (Siberia, and towards the Muslim SE) it was important to create this myth of integrity, as well as keeping the ones not integral to that "mythical" area onboard, so to say: White Russians, Ukrainians, Karelians on the other geographical axes – but still part of it.

That's 600 years of "mother" Russia – rather than the Cold War propaganda.
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/39639/history-of-the-phrase-for-mother-russia/39651
 
noise said:
Mother Russia goes back to the Mongols, sacking Kiev (then capital of Russia), making big parts of Russia belong to Khanates (or at least pay tribute or taxes).

What was left? The rest of the Russians hiding in forests that the Mongols could not be bothered with (while they went to the Rhine and wintered on the Hungarian plains).

Volga, as the trading route between the "still standing" and the "subjugated" parts of Russia was called "my Dear Mother (of Russia)". Have you not heard any of the most popular songs (other than the anthem when another Olympic medal is clocked)? So it is the name for an entity that, strictly speaking, for centuries was not a political entity.

When Russia entered the imperialist expansion stage (Siberia, and towards the Muslim SE) it was important to create this myth of integrity, as well as keeping the ones not integral to that "mythical" area onboard, so to say: White Russians, Ukrainians, Karelians on the other geographical axes – but still part of it.

That's 600 years of "mother" Russia – rather than the Cold War propaganda.
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/39639/history-of-the-phrase-for-mother-russia/39651
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Thank you.
 
Global Nationalist said:
When the English language actually had grammatical genders, boats were male. The identification of boats with women among ancient benevolent misogynists did not have root in grammatical gender. Also various different languages with grammatical genders all identify ships as variously female, male, or neuter.

I'd also like to point out that Russians often use a term that means "fatherland" to refer to Russia.
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Why is vagina masculine and moustache feminine in French?
 
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