'National Popular Vote'. Is this the way forward?

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"NPV seeks to ensure that the presidential candidate who wins the most popular votes nationwide is elected president. When a state passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state's electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. "
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/national-popular-vote.aspx

"The National Popular Vote (NPV) movement emerged in late 2006 and has slowly gain some steam since then."
 
Jack said:
"NPV seeks to ensure that the presidential candidate who wins the most popular votes nationwide is elected president. When a state passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state's electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. "
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/national-popular-vote.aspx

"The National Popular Vote (NPV) movement emerged in late 2006 and has slowly gain some steam since then."
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I would like to see EC votes distributed by popular vote proportionality.
End the "winner take all" system.
 
Tacomaman said:
I would like to see EC votes distributed by popular vote proportionality.
End the "winner take all" system.
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I'm not sure the 'EC votes' in different States are 'equal'. I think the 'EC votes' in smaller States equal 10 times the number of people in larger States.
 
Jack said:
I'm not sure the 'EC votes' in different States are 'equal'. I think the 'EC votes' in smaller States equal 10 times the number of people in larger States.
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That is true, but IMHO, a proportioned system would be better than what we currently have.
 
"How exactly does this work? Under the "Electoral College" system, each state is assigned a certain number of "votes". There are a total of 538 electoral votes, and the number of votes each state receives is proportional to its size --- the bigger the state's population the more "votes" it gets. The formula for determining the number of votes for each state is simple: each state gets two votes for its two US Senators, and then one more additional vote for each member it has in the House of Representatives. For California, this means we get 55 votes (2 senators and 53 members of the House of Representatives) --- the most of any state."
https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/electoral-college
 
Smart idea, the majority of states giving up their last vestige of sovereignty to three or four urban counties. /sarcasm
 
Jack said:
"NPV seeks to ensure that the presidential candidate who wins the most popular votes nationwide is elected president. When a state passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state's electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. "
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/national-popular-vote.aspx

"The National Popular Vote (NPV) movement emerged in late 2006 and has slowly gain some steam since then."
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It's a good plan.
 
leaningright said:
Don’t hate much of anything but am quite fond of the representative form of government our founders set up. Call it a representative democracy (or republic) if you like. I’d like to keep it the way it is.
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Why does a popular vote for President offend you? We use the popular vote for every other public office.
 
Jack said:
"NPV seeks to ensure that the presidential candidate who wins the most popular votes nationwide is elected president. When a state passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state's electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. "
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/national-popular-vote.aspx

"The National Popular Vote (NPV) movement emerged in late 2006 and has slowly gain some steam since then."
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Sure it’s the way straight to white people shootin your black asses.

Don’t even go there dumbo


Blessings
 
BidenPresident said:
Why does a popular vote for President offend you? We use the popular vote for every other public office.
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Presidential elections are the only nation wide elections. Instead of candidates who only satisfy a few large states, the two sides have to pick candidates that can satisfy people in a lot of states. That’s important because it keeps our country’s leaders a little more toward the middle of the political spectrum. It’s also important because people in different states are different. I’ve been all over these United States and to a few places in the world (planning to go to Scotland and Ireland this summer, Lord willing) and people are different. Different values, beliefs, hold different freedoms higher than others.

You probably don’t care that recent events have caused ammunition prices to soar and made several calibers all but impossible to obtain. But it’s important to me and many like me. We’re different. The health of the oil industry may not be very important to someone in the NE, or keeping gas prices at a happy medium price level probably isn’t a large concern for people who live in cities and don’t have to drive great distances regularly, but they are to me. My student’s work on pipelines as welders, oil and gas rigs, directional drilling rigs. They’re truck drivers and raise families. The availability of jobs and the overall health of the oil and gas industry greatly affects prices of goods and services here. Different. So, as I said, I like our “representative” democracy as it is.
 
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Jack said:
"NPV seeks to ensure that the presidential candidate who wins the most popular votes nationwide is elected president. When a state passes legislation to join the National Popular Vote Compact, it pledges that all of that state's electoral votes will be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state. "
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/national-popular-vote.aspx

"The National Popular Vote (NPV) movement emerged in late 2006 and has slowly gain some steam since then."
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gay
 
Jack said:
At this point, ANYTHING seems better than what we have.
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Can you answer why you shit stains feel compelled to change the rules every time something doesnt go your way? Its like you lose a baseball game and then demand that the rules be changed so the team with the most hits wins the game and not the team with the most runs. So why not just play by the rules?
 
leaningright said:


Presidential elections are the only nation wide elections. Instead of candidates who only satisfy a few large states, the two sides have to pick candidates that can satisfy people in a lot of states. That’s important because it keeps our country’s leaders a little more toward the middle of the political spectrum. It’s also important because people in different states are different. I’ve been all over these United States and to a few places in the world (planning to go to Scotland and Ireland this summer, Lord willing) and people are different. Different values, beliefs, hold different freedoms higher than others.

You probably don’t care that recent events have caused ammunition prices to soar and made several calibers all but impossible to obtain. But it’s important to me and many like me. We’re different. The health of the oil industry may not be very important to someone in the NE, or keeping gas prices at a happy medium price level probably isn’t a large concern for people who live in cities and don’t have to drive great distances regularly, but they are to me. My student’s work on pipelines as welders, oil and gas rigs, directional drilling rigs. They’re truck drivers and raise families. The availability of jobs and the overall health of the oil and gas industry greatly affects prices of goods and services here. Different. So, as I said, I like our “representative” democracy as it is.
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The left doesn't give a shit about your students. The left sees your students as unenlightened morons. They have no interest in seeking their input for anything. This push for changing the EC has never been and never will be about democracy. Whenever a democrat uses the term democracy they are lying.
 
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