Native Americans sue for voting rights

Rune said:
Bravo understands the injustice. You don't.
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how is that making something political? i'm talking about the law, asking questions and you claim i made it political. the reality is, you just made it political by claiming that "injustice" necessarily means politics. it doesn't. i have not once brought up politics. you did.
 
Yurt said:
how is that making something political? i'm talking about the law, asking questions and you claim i made it political. the reality is, you just made it political by claiming that "injustice" necessarily means politics. it doesn't. i have not once brought up politics. you did.
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You are yurt-picking again. The indians want to vote. People has been making it difficult for them on an ongoing basis. You are defending them.
 
Rune said:
You are yurt-picking again. The indians want to vote. People has been making it difficult for them on an ongoing basis. You are defending them.
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what i am "yurt-picking?" you're simply dunetrolling and refusing to prove your point. voting is about RIGHTS. nothing i've talked about is about politics. good lord, how can you be so fucking stupid?

all i've done is ask questions, point out facts. but somehow, that is making this political. why don't you man up and start answering the questions instead of doing your stupid dunetroll bullshit where you spout nonsense about what people say.

let me help you out:

this issue breaks down something like this:

1. is early voting a right? eg, is it a convenience or something absolutely necessary to ensure the right to vote is not hindered. that is why i have repeatedly asked about living in rural areas and mentioned the property taxes. you, however, want to ignore this and spout nonsense.

2. given the property tax issue and rural living, does this mean anyone who chooses to live in a rural area that cannot afford "extra" days of voting, being denied the equal right to vote. i ask this - because - the constitution does not specify the days of voting, nor does federal law. the federal law allows states to set this up.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
Surely native Americans deserve some special consideration, after all they were there first!
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No.....they don't deserve 'special' treatment......they deserve fair treatment.....

If the gov. is reimbursing the districts for the costs of early voting, then the state is paying for it in the end...

There is no reason for the district to finance the cost first and then be reimbursed.....it makes no sense to do this in two steps when the outcome is the same in the end

If the State is paying for the voting in the end, they can do it up front......
 
bravo said:
.they deserve fair treatment.....

If the gov. is reimbursing the districts for the costs of early voting, then the state is paying for it in the end...

There is no reason for the district to finance the cost first and then be reimbursed.....it makes no sense to do this in two steps when the outcome is the same in the end

If the State is paying for the voting in the end, they can do it up front......
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Bravo, Bravo.
 
bravo said:
No.....they don't deserve 'special' treatment......they deserve fair treatment.....

If the gov. is reimbursing the districts for the costs of early voting, then the state is paying for it in the end...

There is no reason for the district to finance the cost first and then be reimbursed.....it makes no sense to do this in two steps when the outcome is the same in the end

If the State is paying for the voting in the end, they can do it up front......
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how do they know how much to pay each district?
 
Rune said:
Irelevent.
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what? is that a new dunetroll word?

in dune's world....the state doesn't need to know how much money, they just need to dole out any amount, even a million dollars, because it is [sic] irrelevant.

did post 103 have too many words for you?
 
Yurt said:
yeah...says the hack who can't answer a simple question.

is there a separate right to early voting? yes or no?
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After the suit was filed, Gant told a local news outlet that as a matter of policy, South Dakota doesn’t provide money under the federal voting act upfront, but rather reimburses districts for election expenditures upon presentation of receipts. Federal rules do not require the practice, but rather allow states to set the terms for distributing the money, according to Bryan Whitener, a spokesman for the federal Election Assistance Commission, which provides guidance on the law.

Back in Shannon County, its commissioners carved out the money for just six days of early voting by slashing expenditures to the bone—cutting back law enforcement and eliminating their own salaries and aid to the poor, among other items, said Hutchison. Their funds are so low because South Dakota counties tax land to finance their budgets, but most of Shannon County’s land is nontaxable, because it’s either tribally-owned or held in trust for the Oglala Sioux Tribe by the federal government, she explained.

Shannon County has other pressing economic and social issues. Its per-capita annual income of less than $8,000 makes it one of the poorest places in the nation, according to the 2010 Census. By most measures, unemployment tops 85 percent, and life expectancy for its almost entirely Native American population is comparable to Haiti’s. “For years, we were the poorest,” said Hutchison. “Now we’re second-poorest, because another mostly-Sioux county in South Dakota took our place.”

Poverty is, in fact, a major reason why area residents prize early voting. “A lot of us on Pine Ridge don’t have vehicles,” explained plaintiff and tribal member Clarice Mesteth. “During elections, those who have them drive long distances to give other people rides to the polls. Each round-trip can be a couple of hours, so having all the early-voting days we should, in addition to the general-election day, is important to us.”

http://100r.org/2012/01/south-dakota-indians-sue-for-early-voting/
 
what is the purpose of your post bravo? i've already read it and pretty sure i quoted parts of it. are you claiming that answers my question?
 
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