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lou dobbs reports that OUR ADMINISTRATION is trying to push something called the North American Union agreement through.... without congress even debating it that joins the usa canada and mexico as one union trade partners, there is a highway being built with our tax dollars from mexico to canada, it makes our borders even MORE porous....allows all mexicans to come here if they are hit with a virus or something like that...

has anyone even heard of this movement?

I had NO IDEA....what the hell is going on?

I read a conspiracy theorist over 5 years ago that had said that they were going to break the world up in to ten regions....and don't ask me who "they" were cuz I have no frickin idea! lol maybe this illuminati that everyone in the conspiracy realm talks about but honestly I only know they. :) So they said in this theory about the 10 regions that the usa and canada and mexico would become one....

now low and behold lou dobbs is reporting on this taking place without us even being part of the debate regarding it...?

gees, louise!
 
Bush Pro Union ??? Oh come on now I can't believe that. Has his brain been testosterone fried or something ?
 
I have heard of it too. A conspiracy theory again. The road is suppose to be built across the US and into Canada. But there's no road work anyone can point too.

When asked if illegals could come through there they are told no its a highway there are no exits its just a raod through. Yeah right, like someone can only get off a highway from an exit. They'll just post no stopping signs along the way.

Everything I heard and read on it is silly. If they arre going to make things up they need to at least think them through.
 
Gaffer said:
I have heard of it too. A conspiracy theory again. The road is suppose to be built across the US and into Canada. But there's no road work anyone can point too.

When asked if illegals could come through there they are told no its a highway there are no exits its just a raod through. Yeah right, like someone can only get off a highway from an exit. They'll just post no stopping signs along the way.

Everything I heard and read on it is silly. If they arre going to make things up they need to at least think them through.
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Gaffer...you must be reading the wrong articles on it...

Here is a request/report on it from CFR-Council on Foreign Relations of which Condi Rice and Cheney and many others in the administration are members of ....

you can choose to read it Gaffer or you can continue to stick that head of yours in the ground...I realize free will prevails...

http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf

Also, this explains the cfr's/Bush's plans...I just found this and have not read it in full yet...but I will...

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14965
 
Care4all said:
lou dobbs reports that OUR ADMINISTRATION is trying to push something called the North American Union agreement through.... without congress even debating it that joins the usa canada and mexico as one union trade partners, there is a highway being built with our tax dollars from mexico to canada, it makes our borders even MORE porous....allows all mexicans to come here if they are hit with a virus or something like that...

has anyone even heard of this movement?

I had NO IDEA....what the hell is going on?

I read a conspiracy theorist over 5 years ago that had said that they were going to break the world up in to ten regions....and don't ask me who "they" were cuz I have no frickin idea! lol maybe this illuminati that everyone in the conspiracy realm talks about but honestly I only know they. :) So they said in this theory about the 10 regions that the usa and canada and mexico would become one....

now low and behold lou dobbs is reporting on this taking place without us even being part of the debate regarding it...?

gees, louise!
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ya they reported it on the onion a while back
 
It is the typical lib huge jump in the actual idea and what the libs say it is. To say that North America sould stand together in trade and security to saying Bush wants to make one goverment is absurd.
 
Care4all said:
Gaffer...you must be reading the wrong articles on it...

Here is a request/report on it from CFR-Council on Foreign Relations of which Condi Rice and Cheney and many others in the administration are members of ....

you can choose to read it Gaffer or you can continue to stick that head of yours in the ground...I realize free will prevails...

http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf

Also, this explains the cfr's/Bush's plans...I just found this and have not read it in full yet...but I will...

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14965
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I have never been one to put my head in the sand like the libs do. As I stated I have heard nothing concerning this except from conspiracy theorists. Thanks for the links I will check them out.
 
Gaffer...I heard about it, and then immediately posted this thread.... since then I have found a great deal of ligitimate information about it to confirm what I had heard on Lou Dobbs....

Here is some more on it, that might interest you, if you do care to get down to the truth...

I should not have said that you put your head in the sand, for that, I am sorry....

by Jerome R. Corsi
Posted May 30, 2006

In March 2005 at their summit meeting in Waco, Tex., President Bush, President Fox and Prime Minister Martin issued a joint statement announced the creation of the “Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America” (SPP). The creation of this new agreement was never submitted to Congress for debate and decision. Instead, the U.S. Department of Commerce merely created a new division under the same title to implement working groups to advance a North American Union working agenda in a wide range of areas, including: manufactured goods, movement of goods, energy, environment, e-commerce, financial services, business facilitation, food and agriculture, transportation, and health.

SPP is headed by three top cabinet level officers of each country. Representing the United States are Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez, Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff, and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. Representing Mexico are Secretario de Economía Fernando Canales, Secretario de Gobernación Carlos Abascal, and Secretario de Relaciones Exteriores, Luis Ernesto Derbéz. Representing Canada are Minister of Industry David L. Emerson, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Public Safety, Anne McLellan, and Minister of Foreign Affairs Pierre Stewart Pettigrew.

Reporting in June 2005 to the heads of state of the three countries, the trilateral SPP emphasized the extensive working group structure that had been established to pursue an ambitious agenda:

In carrying out your instructions, we established working groups under both agendas of the Partnership – Security and Prosperity. We held roundtables with stakeholders, meetings with business groups and briefing sessions with Legislatures, as well as with other relevant political jurisdictions. The result is a detailed series of actions and recommendations designed to increase the competitiveness of North America and the security of our people.

This is not a theoretical exercise being prepared so it can be submitted for review. Instead, SPP is producing an action agreement to be implemented directly by regulations, without any envisioned direct Congressional oversight.

Upon your review and approval, we will once again meet with stakeholders and work with them to implement the workplans that we have developed.

And again, the June 2005 SPP report stresses:

The success of our efforts will be defined less by the contents of the work plans than by the actual implementation of initiatives and strategies that will make North America more prosperous and more secure.

Reviewing the specific working agenda initiatives, the goal to implement directly is apparent. Nearly every work plan is characterized by action steps described variously as “our three countries signed a Framework of Common Principles …” or “we have signed a Memorandum of Understanding …,” or “we have signed a declaration of intent …” etc. Once again, none of the 30 or so working agendas makes any mention of submitting decisions to the U.S. Congress for review and approval. No new U.S. laws are contemplated for the Bush administration to submit to Congress. Instead, the plan is obviously to knit together the North American Union completely under the radar, through a process of regulations and directives issued by various U.S. government agencies.

What we have here is an executive branch plan being implemented by the Bush administration to construct a new super-regional structure completely by fiat. Yet, we can find no single speech in which President Bush has ever openly expressed to the American people his intention to create a North American Union by evolving NAFTA into this NAFTA-Plus as a first, implementing step.

Anyone who has wondered why President Bush has not bothered to secure our borders is advised to spend some time examining the SPP working groups’ agenda. In every area of activity, the SPP agenda stresses free and open movement of people, trade, and capital within the North American Union. Once the SPP agenda is implemented with appropriate departmental regulations, there will be no area of immigration policy, trade rules, environmental regulations, capital flows, public health, plus dozens of other key policy areas countries that the U.S. government will be able to decide alone, or without first consulting with some appropriate North American Union regulatory body. At best, our border with Mexico will become a speed bump, largely erased, with little remaining to restrict the essentially free movement of people, trade, and capital.


Continued at the link below:

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15233
 
How does working together come to equal the conclusions of this guy? Sorry he is not a lib as I suggested earlier. He is a Swift boater. LOL
 
Well, if anybody wants to read the actual agreement signed but not voted on by the Congress you can here:

http://www.spp.gov/

If you want to read about the Superhighway theory just type in Nafta Superhighway in Google and have fun...
 
Thanks Care. Congress would just approve the construction and not fund the darned highway anyway. Like the border wall.
 
Nah, they'd fund the highway and not approve the work to be done. They like to mix it up sometimes! Plus, they need a place to put all that money they spend on black ops.
 
Yep, they do need to route some dark money now and again. and they would blame the work ont being done in the huggers. while spending the money on spook stuff.
 
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