Yahoo news? That's where you get all of your information?
Yikes. I use a pretty wide variety of sources.
No wonder there is such a discrepancy in the quality of our posts.
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Yahoo news? That's where you get all of your information?
Yikes. I use a pretty wide variety of sources.
No wonder there is such a discrepancy in the quality of our posts.
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yes onceler, i get all my information just from yahoo news....
good lord, why must you continue to prove what an idiot you are? first you dishhonestly claim i'm googling info, now you claim vis a vis a question, then a statement that i get all my news from yahoo....
you are such a cute little hack onceler
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you are a hack...if you bother to read the news, you would see that many are comparing the two....but i know it makes you feel better to pretend its just dear ol' yurt
Hardly matters; that was certainly what you implied, but hey, if you want to change your position now, that's fine.
It's fun, because you're clearly trying to distract from the main discussion, as to how BP is Obama's "Katrina." You know you dug yourself a deep one w/ that contention...
It's fun, because you're clearly trying to distract from the main discussion, as to how BP is Obama's "Katrina." You know you dug yourself a deep one w/ that contention...
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what did i imply and what have i changed? must you continue to lie in order to make yourself believe you have 'won' a point?
You implied that Yahoo was the only place that I might actually learn something. You denying that now? Looks kind of dumb, since it's just a few posts back.
So, I'm not lying. All the lies are w/ you on this thread (and most threads). This whole thread is a lie.
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i never said that, implied or otherwise...
you falsely accused me of googling to get the news, i merely pointed out to you that my two (only two onceler) links i used this morning were from yahoo and that you might learn something from using yahoo news as well....
you're just a dishonest hack that has to continue lying because you simply can't admit you were wrong that i was "googling like mad" and "desperately" googling...because the reality of it is, i was merely reading yahoo news
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Oh my and a Republican would never, ever abuse power. Now siree Bob! [/sarcasm]
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why can't onceler ever admit he is wrong?
I wasn't wrong, Yurtsie. You clearly implied that Yahoo was THE source from news; why, I'd have to go there just to learn something!
I just recognized that whole distraction for what it was, so cut it short. Do you want to continue debating that? Or would you rather try to support your own OP, and give me a list of exactly what the current admin has done to make this situation worse, and how this is Obama's Katrina?
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still lying...how sad
first you falsely claimed i was desperately and madly googling, then you falsely claimed i get ALL my information from yahoo
two lies onceler, quite pathetic you can't just admit you're wrong....especially over something so small
first you falsely claimed i was desperately and madly googling, then you falsely claimed i get ALL my information from yahoo
two lies onceler, quite pathetic you can't just admit you're wrong....especially over something so small
Similar? Not hardly....the massive cat.5 storm was far, far a more serious and far more impossible disaster to deal with....and in spite of the incompetent local officals that put roadblocks in the way of federal assistance and their failure to do anything to help the citizens of their own city, the relief effort was as good as it could be expected considering the circumstances....
The biggest failure of the federal government was the waste created by their bumbling effort do more than was sensible....thousands of new trailers rotting and useless, fresh water and food never delivered or used by the victims, monetary aid given without thought to who got the money and where it went, and how it was spent....
Liberal Media spin was absolutly superb in deflecting any blame from local officials (Democrats) and heaping it on Bush like he was personally responsible for creating the storm....
a lesson in propaganda and the death of serious unbiased journalism in this country....that obviously continues to this day....
He did cut his vacation short and he went back to DC immediately...Katrina hit on the 29th he went back on the 31st that's two days. He had to cut his vacation short...he flew over the ravaged area on his way. That you NEED to split a hair here is silly fatso.
To every liberal hack please note the day Bush declared a State of Emergency...That would be Saturday the 27th...2 days before landfall...also note why he did so (to make Federal Funds available). That is the role the president plays in such circumstances. Blanco declared a State of emergency at 11:00 PM on the 26th the night before the WH. She called the WH asking the WH to do so as well...and they did!
Sunday, August 28, 2005
CRAWFORD, Texas — President Bush declared a state of emergency in Louisiana (search) on Saturday because of the approach of Hurricane Katrina (search) and his spokesman urged residents along the coast to heed authorities' advice to evacuate.
Bush, vacationing at his ranch, was being regularly updated about the storm, which is expected to hit land early Monday, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.
Officials from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (search) continue to coordinate with state authorities in Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana and Alabama, and have prepositioned supplies in areas expected to be affected, he said.
The president's emergency declaration authorizes the FEMA to coordinate all disaster relief efforts and to provide appropriate assistance in a number of Louisiana parishes, or counties.
Authorities told residents of low-lying coastal communities to head for higher ground. The storm was expected to strengthen as it crosses the Gulf of Mexico and could become a Category 4 hurricane with wind of at least 131 mph.
"We urge residents in the areas that could be impacted to follow the recommendations of local authorities," McClellan said.
Wed 24-Aug ~ Tropical Depression 12 strengthens into Tropical Storm Katrina over the Central Bahamas. Hurricane warning issued for the southeastern Florida coast
Thurs 25-Aug ~ Katrina strikes Florida as a Cat 1 hurricane with 80 mph winds. Nine people reportedly died. Governor Jeb Bush declares State of Emergency in Florida
Fri 26-Aug 9:00 AM Windspeed: 75 mph. Expected to become Cat 2 soon.
~ White House declares impending disaster area. Orders FEMA and DHS to prepare. 10,000 National Guard troops dispatched along Gulf Coast (arrival time unclear).
5:00 PM Katrina moves out to Gulf of Mexico. Grows into Cat 2 storm with 100 mph winds. Veers northwest toward Louisiana and Mississippi. Expected to become Cat 3.
11:00 PM Center of landfall expected to be Gulfport and New Orleans.
~ Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco declares State of Emergency.
Sat 27-Aug 5:00 AM Katrina becomes Cat 3 storm with 115 mph winds. Hurricane warning issued for Louisiana's southeastern coast and for the northern Gulf Coast.
10:00 AM Expected Cat 4 storm. Afternoon National Hurricane center Director Max Mayfield calls New Orleans Mayor Nagin to advise for a mandatory evacuation.
5:00 PM Nagin declares State of Emergency. Voluntary evacuation order. Residents in low-lying areas encouraged to evacuate.
~ Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour declares a State of Emergency. A mandatory evacuation ordered for Hancock County.
6:00 PM Weather Service Prediction: 45% chance that a Cat 4 or 5 storm will hit New Orleans directly.
Sun 28-Aug Early DHS Secretary Chertoff and FEMA Director Brown given electronic briefings by Hurricane Center on possibility of levee break.
7:00 AM Katrina becomes Cat 5 storm with 160 mph winds.
8:00 AM Superdome opens. Allows people in.
9:30 AM Nagin announces that Regional Transit Authority (RTA) buses will pick up people in 12 locations throughout the city to take them to places of refuge, including the Superdome. The New Orleans Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan calls for buses to evacuate citizens out of the city (this component not in effect).
11:00 AM Nagin orders mandatory evacuation of New Orleans. Ten shelters set up for those unable to leave (Nagin referred to them as "refuges of last resort" rather than shelters). Evacuation orders posted all along coast.
President Bush suggests mandatory evacuation after decision was already made but before it was reported to the public.
11:30 AM President Bush delivers statement vowing to help those affected.
Noon Highways packed. City activates contraflow traffic system so some highways become one-way only.
~ Gov. Blanco requests disaster relief funds (some evidence this request was on 8-27)
~ Alabama Gov. Bob Riley declares a State of Emergency.
~ FEMA sends water, food and supplies to Georgia and Texas in preparation.
~ President Bush declares State of Emergency in Mississippi, Florida, and Alabama.
3:00 PM Superdome has 10,000 people inside. 150 National Guardsmen stationed (~2/3 unarmed).
6:00 PM Nagin orders a curfew of 6 PM.
7:00 PM National Weather Service predicts the levees may be "overtopped" due to storm surge.
Mon 29-Aug 6:10 AM Katrina becomes Cat 4 storm with 145 mph winds. Makes landfall.
9:00 AM Lower 9th Ward Levee reportedly breached. Floodwaters 6-8 feet in this area.
~11:00 AM FEMA Director Michael Brown dispatches 1000 employees 5 hours after landfall - gives them 2 days to arrive. Brown arrives in Baton Rouge at the State Office of Emergency Preparedness.
2:00 PM City Hall confirms 17th Street levee breach. Floods ~ 20% of the city.
Afternoon FEMA issues statement asking first responders to only come to the city if there was proper coordination between the state and local officials.
1:45 PM President Bush declares Emergency Disaster for Louisiana and Mississippi. Frees up federal funds.
~ Superdome damaged (with 10,000 people inside). Refineries damaged, and eight refineries closed. Airports close.
~ Coast Guard rescues 1200 from flood; National Guard called in.
Thurs 1-Sep ~ Military increases National Guard deployment to 30,000. Violence, carjacking, looting continues. Military helicopters shot at while evacuating residents. FEMA water rescue operations suspended because of gunfire.
~ Nagin issues a "desperate SOS" for more buses.
~ President Bush appoints George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton to fundraise for hurricane victims.
~ Halliburton awarded Navy contract for storm cleanup.
~ Sandbags arrive for levees.
~ Superdome and Convention Center now housing up to 45,000 refugees.
~ Senators return from recess to being work on emergency aid bill.
~ DHS Secretary Chertoff states in an interview that he was not aware of the people at the convention center
until recently.
~ 8:00 PM Brown states (on Paula Zahn's show) that he became aware of the convention center problem only a few hours before.
Fri 2-Sep ~ President Bush tours Gulf area. Acknowledges failures of government. Calls the results "not acceptable."
~ More National Guardsmen arrive; 6500 arrive New Orleans, 20,000 by day's end in LA and MS.
~ Congress approves $10.5 billion for immediate rescue and relief efforts.
~ U.S. and Europe tap oil and gas reserves (2 million barrels a day).
~ Explosions at chemical storage plant in New Orleans. Scattered fires.
~ Fifteen airlines begin flying refugees out of New Orleans to San Antonio.
Sat 3-Sep ~ Bush orders 7,200 active duty forces to the Gulf Coast.
~ 40,000 National Guardsmen now on Gulf Coast.
~ U.S. Labor Department announces emergency grant of $62 million for dislocated workers.
~ New Orleans police report 200 officers have walked off the job, 2 committed suicide.
Sun 4-Sep ~ Superdome fully evacuated (except stragglers).
~ Gov. Blanco declares State of Public Health Emergency.
~ Carnival Cruise offers cruise ships for 7000 victims.
Mon 5-Sep ~ Gap in levee closed. Still repairing another gap.
~ Bush returns to the region. 4,700 more active duty troops dispatched.
~ Former Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton announce hurricane fund.
~ 500 New Orleans officers unaccounted for.
~ Some refineries restart production.
~ Other countries frustrated with relief efforts of their citizens (Europe, Canada, S. Korea, etc)
Tues 6-Sep ~ Executive and legislative branches pledge separate investigations into federal response.
~ US Army Corps of Engineers begins pumping New Orleans. Now 60% underwater.
~ Less than 10,000 people still in New Orleans. Streets secure. Four fires.
~ FEMA: Victims will be given debit cards for necessities.
~ Labor Department pledges $62 million for Louisiana, $50 million for Mississippi, $75 million for refugees in Texas, and $4 million for Alabama for dislocated workers.
Late Evening Nagin issued his emergency declaration authorizing police and military to remove anyone who refused to leave their homes. Unclear as to whether force will actually be used at this time (reports suggest not).
Wed 7-Sep ~ President Bush calls for another $52 billion in aid to compliment the $10.5 billion already approved by Congress.
Thurs 8-Sep ~ $52 billion in aid approved by Congress.
Time Line Here
Sunday, August 28, 2005
CRAWFORD, Texas — President Bush declared a state of emergency in Louisiana (search) on Saturday because of the approach of Hurricane Katrina (search) and his spokesman urged residents along the coast to heed authorities' advice to evacuate.
Bush, vacationing at his ranch, was being regularly updated about the storm, which is expected to hit land early Monday, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.
Officials from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (search) continue to coordinate with state authorities in Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana and Alabama, and have prepositioned supplies in areas expected to be affected, he said.
The president's emergency declaration authorizes the FEMA to coordinate all disaster relief efforts and to provide appropriate assistance in a number of Louisiana parishes, or counties.
Authorities told residents of low-lying coastal communities to head for higher ground. The storm was expected to strengthen as it crosses the Gulf of Mexico and could become a Category 4 hurricane with wind of at least 131 mph.
"We urge residents in the areas that could be impacted to follow the recommendations of local authorities," McClellan said.
Wed 24-Aug ~ Tropical Depression 12 strengthens into Tropical Storm Katrina over the Central Bahamas. Hurricane warning issued for the southeastern Florida coast
Thurs 25-Aug ~ Katrina strikes Florida as a Cat 1 hurricane with 80 mph winds. Nine people reportedly died. Governor Jeb Bush declares State of Emergency in Florida
Fri 26-Aug 9:00 AM Windspeed: 75 mph. Expected to become Cat 2 soon.
~ White House declares impending disaster area. Orders FEMA and DHS to prepare. 10,000 National Guard troops dispatched along Gulf Coast (arrival time unclear).
5:00 PM Katrina moves out to Gulf of Mexico. Grows into Cat 2 storm with 100 mph winds. Veers northwest toward Louisiana and Mississippi. Expected to become Cat 3.
11:00 PM Center of landfall expected to be Gulfport and New Orleans.
~ Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco declares State of Emergency.
Sat 27-Aug 5:00 AM Katrina becomes Cat 3 storm with 115 mph winds. Hurricane warning issued for Louisiana's southeastern coast and for the northern Gulf Coast.
10:00 AM Expected Cat 4 storm. Afternoon National Hurricane center Director Max Mayfield calls New Orleans Mayor Nagin to advise for a mandatory evacuation.
5:00 PM Nagin declares State of Emergency. Voluntary evacuation order. Residents in low-lying areas encouraged to evacuate.
~ Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour declares a State of Emergency. A mandatory evacuation ordered for Hancock County.
6:00 PM Weather Service Prediction: 45% chance that a Cat 4 or 5 storm will hit New Orleans directly.
Sun 28-Aug Early DHS Secretary Chertoff and FEMA Director Brown given electronic briefings by Hurricane Center on possibility of levee break.
7:00 AM Katrina becomes Cat 5 storm with 160 mph winds.
8:00 AM Superdome opens. Allows people in.
9:30 AM Nagin announces that Regional Transit Authority (RTA) buses will pick up people in 12 locations throughout the city to take them to places of refuge, including the Superdome. The New Orleans Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan calls for buses to evacuate citizens out of the city (this component not in effect).
11:00 AM Nagin orders mandatory evacuation of New Orleans. Ten shelters set up for those unable to leave (Nagin referred to them as "refuges of last resort" rather than shelters). Evacuation orders posted all along coast.
President Bush suggests mandatory evacuation after decision was already made but before it was reported to the public.
11:30 AM President Bush delivers statement vowing to help those affected.
Noon Highways packed. City activates contraflow traffic system so some highways become one-way only.
~ Gov. Blanco requests disaster relief funds (some evidence this request was on 8-27)
~ Alabama Gov. Bob Riley declares a State of Emergency.
~ FEMA sends water, food and supplies to Georgia and Texas in preparation.
~ President Bush declares State of Emergency in Mississippi, Florida, and Alabama.
3:00 PM Superdome has 10,000 people inside. 150 National Guardsmen stationed (~2/3 unarmed).
6:00 PM Nagin orders a curfew of 6 PM.
7:00 PM National Weather Service predicts the levees may be "overtopped" due to storm surge.
Mon 29-Aug 6:10 AM Katrina becomes Cat 4 storm with 145 mph winds. Makes landfall.
9:00 AM Lower 9th Ward Levee reportedly breached. Floodwaters 6-8 feet in this area.
~11:00 AM FEMA Director Michael Brown dispatches 1000 employees 5 hours after landfall - gives them 2 days to arrive. Brown arrives in Baton Rouge at the State Office of Emergency Preparedness.
2:00 PM City Hall confirms 17th Street levee breach. Floods ~ 20% of the city.
Afternoon FEMA issues statement asking first responders to only come to the city if there was proper coordination between the state and local officials.
1:45 PM President Bush declares Emergency Disaster for Louisiana and Mississippi. Frees up federal funds.
~ Superdome damaged (with 10,000 people inside). Refineries damaged, and eight refineries closed. Airports close.
~ Coast Guard rescues 1200 from flood; National Guard called in.
Thurs 1-Sep ~ Military increases National Guard deployment to 30,000. Violence, carjacking, looting continues. Military helicopters shot at while evacuating residents. FEMA water rescue operations suspended because of gunfire.
~ Nagin issues a "desperate SOS" for more buses.
~ President Bush appoints George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton to fundraise for hurricane victims.
~ Halliburton awarded Navy contract for storm cleanup.
~ Sandbags arrive for levees.
~ Superdome and Convention Center now housing up to 45,000 refugees.
~ Senators return from recess to being work on emergency aid bill.
~ DHS Secretary Chertoff states in an interview that he was not aware of the people at the convention center
until recently.
~ 8:00 PM Brown states (on Paula Zahn's show) that he became aware of the convention center problem only a few hours before.
Fri 2-Sep ~ President Bush tours Gulf area. Acknowledges failures of government. Calls the results "not acceptable."
~ More National Guardsmen arrive; 6500 arrive New Orleans, 20,000 by day's end in LA and MS.
~ Congress approves $10.5 billion for immediate rescue and relief efforts.
~ U.S. and Europe tap oil and gas reserves (2 million barrels a day).
~ Explosions at chemical storage plant in New Orleans. Scattered fires.
~ Fifteen airlines begin flying refugees out of New Orleans to San Antonio.
Sat 3-Sep ~ Bush orders 7,200 active duty forces to the Gulf Coast.
~ 40,000 National Guardsmen now on Gulf Coast.
~ U.S. Labor Department announces emergency grant of $62 million for dislocated workers.
~ New Orleans police report 200 officers have walked off the job, 2 committed suicide.
Sun 4-Sep ~ Superdome fully evacuated (except stragglers).
~ Gov. Blanco declares State of Public Health Emergency.
~ Carnival Cruise offers cruise ships for 7000 victims.
Mon 5-Sep ~ Gap in levee closed. Still repairing another gap.
~ Bush returns to the region. 4,700 more active duty troops dispatched.
~ Former Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton announce hurricane fund.
~ 500 New Orleans officers unaccounted for.
~ Some refineries restart production.
~ Other countries frustrated with relief efforts of their citizens (Europe, Canada, S. Korea, etc)
Tues 6-Sep ~ Executive and legislative branches pledge separate investigations into federal response.
~ US Army Corps of Engineers begins pumping New Orleans. Now 60% underwater.
~ Less than 10,000 people still in New Orleans. Streets secure. Four fires.
~ FEMA: Victims will be given debit cards for necessities.
~ Labor Department pledges $62 million for Louisiana, $50 million for Mississippi, $75 million for refugees in Texas, and $4 million for Alabama for dislocated workers.
Late Evening Nagin issued his emergency declaration authorizing police and military to remove anyone who refused to leave their homes. Unclear as to whether force will actually be used at this time (reports suggest not).
Wed 7-Sep ~ President Bush calls for another $52 billion in aid to compliment the $10.5 billion already approved by Congress.
Thurs 8-Sep ~ $52 billion in aid approved by Congress.
Time Line Here
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