Obama will be a top ten pres of all time

because he's going to issue an executive order stating that he is the country/s first president and the rest were just imposters.....
 

No ruler/executive will ever screw over a country more completely than Commodus did to Rome. Worst leader ever. Which is probably why so many stories/movies are made featuring him in them. Both Christopher Plummer and Joaquin Phoenix did an excellent job portraying the twerp in the movies I have seen them lay waste to the ancient world.
 
No ruler/executive will ever screw over a country more completely than Commodus did to Rome. Worst leader ever. Which is probably why so many stories/movies are made featuring him in them. Both Christopher Plummer and Joaquin Phoenix did an excellent job portraying the twerp in the movies I have seen them lay waste to the ancient world.
Uhhmmm 3D........there was this guy in Germany.......His name was Hitler......he started a war that killed 100 million people, got his country bombed back to the stoneage, caused the deaths of nearly 10% of his nations population and lost them their national identity for 50 years.....you might want to reconsider that "worst ever" claim?
 
Obama will go down as the president who broke the color barrier. Some future black president will go down as the first black president to have been successful as president.
 
How soon after President Obama's death will it be, before he is on our money?

When will O'Hare be renamed Brack Hussien Obama International?

Kennedy Avenues all over America will be renamed Obama Avenue.

Will we get a new monument on the Washington Mall?
 
No ruler/executive will ever screw over a country more completely than Commodus did to Rome. Worst leader ever. Which is probably why so many stories/movies are made featuring him in them. Both Christopher Plummer and Joaquin Phoenix did an excellent job portraying the twerp in the movies I have seen them lay waste to the ancient world.

It's amazing how much human suffering one guy caused. Stalin sucked as well.

I didn't know much about Commodus (I had known that the character in "Gladiator" was loosely based on a real guy, but that's it). Just read is wiki entry; he sounded nutty, but not any nuttier than a handful of other Roman leaders.
 
It's amazing how much human suffering one guy caused. Stalin sucked as well.

I didn't know much about Commodus (I had known that the character in "Gladiator" was loosely based on a real guy, but that's it). Just read is wiki entry; he sounded nutty, but not any nuttier than a handful of other Roman leaders.

Dubya is nuttier than any roman and killed far more people for not better reasons, destroyed untold cultural and historic treasure, never mind our own treasury. His destruction will not even be completely known for decades, having kicked the shit out of the terrorist wasp ball of the middle east for so long and so hard, never mind destroying the world economy.

Any president following the mouth foaming fumble bum would be perceived as better.
 
Dubya is nuttier than any roman and killed far more people for not better reasons, destroyed untold cultural and historic treasure, never mind our own treasury. His destruction will not even be completely known for decades, having kicked the shit out of the terrorist wasp ball of the middle east for so long and so hard, never mind destroying the world economy.

Any president following the mouth foaming fumble bum would be perceived as better.

Some of those Roman guys were really crazy, though. I don't see GW that way. I see him as hopelessly incompetent, mixed w/ some arrogance, which was a pretty bad combo.

He's a guy who never would have gotten near the Presidency if not for his name. He was in over his head, which made him a patsy for people like Cheney and PNAC. That doesn't excuse his sins, and when America is "officially" no longer a superpower, we'll be able to trace the start of our decline to his terms in office. And he definitely caused his share of death & suffering, as well.
 
No ruler/executive will ever screw over a country more completely than Commodus did to Rome. Worst leader ever. Which is probably why so many stories/movies are made featuring him in them. Both Christopher Plummer and Joaquin Phoenix did an excellent job portraying the twerp in the movies I have seen them lay waste to the ancient world.

He wasn't actually interested in administration, only in the power. Or at least not effective administration. You are right, its not a fair comparison.


It's amazing how much human suffering one guy caused. Stalin sucked as well.

I didn't know much about Commodus (I had known that the character in "Gladiator" was loosely based on a real guy, but that's it). Just read is wiki entry; he sounded nutty, but not any nuttier than a handful of other Roman leaders.

You may be thinking of Justinian, and his Fun at the racetrack. Or maybe you mean the crazies who grabbed power. Few, though, can match Commudus. He not only changed the name of Rome, but of the calander months and himself several times. I read somewhere he changed his name to 'throw off conspirators' :rolleyes:

Italy's full of nuts; we enjoy our drama. Here's a fun Papal adventure in which a dead man was literally put on trial:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadaver_Synod
 
How soon after President Obama's death will it be, before he is on our money?

When will O'Hare be renamed Brack Hussien Obama International?

Kennedy Avenues all over America will be renamed Obama Avenue.

Will we get a new monument on the Washington Mall?

wake up! man that was some nightmare
 
Dubya is nuttier than any roman and killed far more people for not better reasons, destroyed untold cultural and historic treasure, never mind our own treasury. His destruction will not even be completely known for decades, having kicked the shit out of the terrorist wasp ball of the middle east for so long and so hard, never mind destroying the world economy.

Any president following the mouth foaming fumble bum would be perceived as better.

Is it hard being that friggin dense, I mean seriously step away from the Kool aid
 
Some of those Roman guys were really crazy, though. I don't see GW that way. I see him as hopelessly incompetent, mixed w/ some arrogance, which was a pretty bad combo.

He's a guy who never would have gotten near the Presidency if not for his name. He was in over his head, which made him a patsy for people like Cheney and PNAC. That doesn't excuse his sins, and when America is "officially" no longer a superpower, we'll be able to trace the start of our decline to his terms in office. And he definitely caused his share of death & suffering, as well.

Even if all those things were true, which of course they are not, how far below Bush does that make Obama?
 
Imagine Barrack Obama Avenue, right next to the MLK BVLD

http://blog.nj.com/njv_kathleen_obrien/2010/02/renaming_a_street_is_a_common.html
That often-unspoken worry burst into public conversation when the comedian Chris Rock remarked: "If a friend calls you on the telephone and says they’re lost on Martin Luther King Boulevard and they want to know what they should do, the best response is, ‘Run!’ "

Somebody said it somewhere on this forum; while its hardly the first time I've heard it in general I believe it. Obama will only be special becaus ehe was the first black president. He will be more remembered for his skin color and his advances into socialism than his actual deeds. I bet in 20 years they'll say Osama Bin who? You'd think he stormed the compound the way he talks of it.


EDIT: This statement includes those Right of me who think Obama is Lennin incarnate. He doesn't have the time. . .
 
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