ohdumbme boarder wall built partially in Mexico-

Bill

Malarkeyville
Same guys that had problems w/ their gate & now this.........

If they were working for trump they probably wouldn't be getting paid...




A private border wall construction project lauded by Trumpers nationwide is actually partially on Mexican soil, Mexican government engineers alleged in photos their American counterparts shared with the builders this month.

Tempting an international incident, the border wall group isn’t budging.

Instead, they’ve moved to attack mode, with their founder calling the binational body that governs the border “50% OWNED by MEXICO” and “UN like” — fighting words, among private border wall fundraisers.

Brian Kolfage, whose group “We Build The Wall” has raised a whopping $25 million for border wall construction on GoFundMe, estimated that the “boulders” from his wall project currently on the Mexican side of the border weighed around two hundred pounds each.

His contractor has refused to move them, he said.

“Our construction guy said he’s not touching them, that he’s not going to move the rocks at all,” Kolfage told TPM. “It’s such B.S.”

So will We Build The Wall remain in Mexico?

“I assume so,” he said. (The contractor, Fisher Industries, didn’t respond to a request for comment.)

That’s a problem for the Mexican government, and for the International Boundary and Water Commission (IBWC), established in 1889 with one commissioner from each country. (The current U.S. commissioner is a Trump appointee.)

“Contractor must remove all fill that encroached into Mexico,” the commission told We Build The Wall earlier this month, as first reported by the Kansas City Star.
What if the group won’t budge?

Our instructions “speak for themselves,” IBWC Foreign Affairs Officer Sally Spener told TPM.

Can a binational commission force an American contractor onto Mexican soil to remove tons of boulders?

“That is a legal question that I cannot respond to at this time,” said Spener.

“There’s nothing they can do,” Kolfage told TPM.

Nothing?

Kolfage conceded that “the Mexican government could bring it up to President Trump and run it up the political chain and try to get it handled.”

The IBWC regularly handles issues of binational importance, most notably water that flows across the border, and the 130-year-old body could hold firm in its beef with the GoFundMe wall builders, even if the group counts former White House adviser Steve Bannon as an adviser and former Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach as general counsel.

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It’s not the first time We Build The Wall has had a run-in with the commission.

Take the gate they built at the end of their wall that extends beyond the private property on which the wall sits. When closed, it blocks the government from accessing a levee road next to the Rio Grande. IBWC maintains that the gate was built “without a permit,” and initially locked it open.

Kolfage, characteristically, blasted the gate dispute across social media and urged his hundreds of thousands of donors and followers to urge the commission to do the right thing. Now, the gate is locked closed at night and open during the day as negotiations continue.

Kolfage claimed the landowner in Mexico next to the private wall is fine with the new boulders on his property: He “doesn’t have a problem with the rocks being there at all,” Kolfage said.

Spener, the IBWC foreign affairs officer, was unimpressed.

“The concern about the encroachments was brought to our attention by the Mexican government,” she wrote, “which is the entity we deal with.”
 
Same guys that had problems w/ their gate & now this.........

If they were working for trump they probably wouldn't be getting paid...




A private border wall construction project lauded by Trumpers nationwide is actually partially on Mexican soil, Mexican government engineers alleged in photos their American counterparts shared with the builders this month.

Tempting an international incident, the border wall group isn’t budging.

Instead, they’ve moved to attack mode, with their founder calling the binational body that governs the border “50% OWNED by MEXICO” and “UN like” — fighting words, among private border wall fundraisers.

Brian Kolfage, whose group “We Build The Wall” has raised a whopping $25 million for border wall construction on GoFundMe, estimated that the “boulders” from his wall project currently on the Mexican side of the border weighed around two hundred pounds each.

His contractor has refused to move them, he said.

“Our construction guy said he’s not touching them, that he’s not going to move the rocks at all,” Kolfage told TPM. “It’s such B.S.”

So will We Build The Wall remain in Mexico?

“I assume so,” he said. (The contractor, Fisher Industries, didn’t respond to a request for comment.)

That’s a problem for the Mexican government, and for the International Boundary and Water Commission (IBWC), established in 1889 with one commissioner from each country. (The current U.S. commissioner is a Trump appointee.)

“Contractor must remove all fill that encroached into Mexico,” the commission told We Build The Wall earlier this month, as first reported by the Kansas City Star.
What if the group won’t budge?

Our instructions “speak for themselves,” IBWC Foreign Affairs Officer Sally Spener told TPM.

Can a binational commission force an American contractor onto Mexican soil to remove tons of boulders?

“That is a legal question that I cannot respond to at this time,” said Spener.

“There’s nothing they can do,” Kolfage told TPM.

Nothing?

Kolfage conceded that “the Mexican government could bring it up to President Trump and run it up the political chain and try to get it handled.”

The IBWC regularly handles issues of binational importance, most notably water that flows across the border, and the 130-year-old body could hold firm in its beef with the GoFundMe wall builders, even if the group counts former White House adviser Steve Bannon as an adviser and former Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach as general counsel.

Screen-Shot-2019-07-26-at-10.41.41-AM-804x536.png

It’s not the first time We Build The Wall has had a run-in with the commission.

Take the gate they built at the end of their wall that extends beyond the private property on which the wall sits. When closed, it blocks the government from accessing a levee road next to the Rio Grande. IBWC maintains that the gate was built “without a permit,” and initially locked it open.

Kolfage, characteristically, blasted the gate dispute across social media and urged his hundreds of thousands of donors and followers to urge the commission to do the right thing. Now, the gate is locked closed at night and open during the day as negotiations continue.

Kolfage claimed the landowner in Mexico next to the private wall is fine with the new boulders on his property: He “doesn’t have a problem with the rocks being there at all,” Kolfage said.

Spener, the IBWC foreign affairs officer, was unimpressed.

“The concern about the encroachments was brought to our attention by the Mexican government,” she wrote, “which is the entity we deal with.”
Typical. Trumpers have no respect for any authority except Trump.

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"Kolfage claimed the landowner in Mexico next to the private wall is fine with the new boulders on his property: He “doesn’t have a problem with the rocks being there at all,” Kolfage said.

Spener, the IBWC foreign affairs officer, was unimpressed."

Once again, government wants to defy the private citizen.
 
It's only what the one idiot claims and you buy into it like a sap.

"Spener, the IBWC foreign affairs officer, was unimpressed."

Isn't Spener "one idiot" as well and "you buy into it like a sap" too?

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(Kappa Omega)
 
"Spener, the IBWC foreign affairs officer, was unimpressed."

Isn't Spener "one idiot" as well and "you buy into it like a sap" too?

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Edited to point out...

Whoops! I deleted my post!
(Kappa Omega)

I realized I didn't even want to know why. Even you realize the issue being brought up is from the Mexican government. You said so yourself and yet here you are posting these trigger thoughts. Some single sap. Your meme is such a piddly fool's bunch of nonsense. I don't think you even know a thing about liberals outside what you're told. As with most rightist memes, they are lame as hell and don't have a proper insight. Since your side would just assume force births and force people to carry guns, I'd stop thinking you're clever. Talk about controlling people. The stuff we try to do is control oversight and things dangerous to the populace. You know, the government's job.
 
I realized I didn't even want to know why. Even you realize the issue being brought up is from the Mexican government. You said so yourself and yet here you are posting these trigger thoughts. Some single sap. Your meme is such a piddly fool's bunch of nonsense. I don't think you even know a thing about liberals outside what you're told. As with most rightist memes, they are lame as hell and don't have a proper insight. Since your side would just assume force births and force people to carry guns, I'd stop thinking you're clever. Talk about controlling people. The stuff we try to do is control oversight and things dangerous to the populace. You know, the government's job.

Hmmm...
I said that?

"Force people to carry guns"? Where the hell did that come from?

You're off on a silly rant because you've been called out on your own stupidity.
 
Hello rjhenn,

Typical. Trumpers have no respect for any authority except Trump.

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They have no respect for authority, period.

If Trump were to change his position and decide to do something they strongly disagreed with they would instantly turn on him.

They resent authority, hate the government. Trump currently represents their anarchistic views, so they currently support him, but if he reversed his positions they would totally turn on him.
 
Hello rjhenn,



They have no respect for authority, period.

If Trump were to change his position and decide to do something they strongly disagreed with they would instantly turn on him.

They resent authority, hate the government. Trump currently represents their anarchistic views, so they currently support him, but if he reversed his positions they would totally turn on him.
I can't imagine what that could be........

IMHO they would simply change their position to be in line w/ his...
 
Hi Bill,

I can't imagine what that could be........

IMHO they would simply change their position to be in line w/ his...

Talkin about a radical about face kinda change.

(Not that there is any chance Trump would do this. Talkin about a completely hypothetical scenario, here.)

Suppose Trump suddenly took liberal positions. Suppose he said he was wrong about immigrants and we should help them. Suppose he stopped holding them in cages, released them pending a hearing. Suppose he said we would really be better off with socialized health care. What if he said he was wrong about climate change and we have to take steps to reverse emissions? What if he wanted to start a carbon tax? What if he put solar panels on the White House and said everybody should drive smaller cars and look into getting electric cars, maybe have a subsidy? What if he said we really have been bad to blacks, that black lives do matter, and we should put a lot more money into schools in bad neighborhoods? What if he said we should take in millions of climate refugees?

His current followers would absolutely flip on him and become his worst detractors. I don't see any way the deplorable haters are going to go right along with Trump just because and if (big if, eh?) he renounced all his hateful positions. Hypothetically speaking, of course, because we would also have to wonder what happened to him and if he is possessed.
 
Well those are certainly some strong points but I honestly believe most of them could live w/ it..

I think the hardest one to swallow would be migration..

Many of them would actually benefit/continue to benefit from "OBAMA CARE"............lol
 
Hello Bill,

Well those are certainly some strong points but I honestly believe most of them could live w/ it..

I think the hardest one to swallow would be migration..

Many of them would actually benefit/continue to benefit from "OBAMA CARE"............lol

So true.

And I have a hard time picturing his most hateful supporters suddenly turning all lovey-dovey just because Trump does.
 
Trump has given haters and bigots the right to show who they are in public. They are doing it increasingly. They are free from the constraints of polite society. They will not go back, even if Trump shows his liberal roots. Daffy was a far lefty for most of his life. He was smart enough to realize he could not do a wholesale bamboozle of the left. The rightys were easy.
 
The wall requires a maintenance road on both sides. Enforcement and construction vehicles drive down it regularly. For some reason, those living there have a tendency to object. The border people speak Spanish and travel back and forth regularly. Americans have crossed for shopping and healthcare. Mexicans travel back and forth for jobs. The farther you get from the wall, the more you fear and hate illegals.
 
"Kolfage claimed the landowner in Mexico next to the private wall is fine with the new boulders on his property: He “doesn’t have a problem with the rocks being there at all,” Kolfage said.

Spener, the IBWC foreign affairs officer, was unimpressed."

Once again, government wants to defy the private citizen.

It's necessary sometimes. What if that private citizen decided that he wanted to dam up a river shared by both countries, in order to create his own private lake? That's why we have these kinds of commissions, with authority to negotiate and to make rulings on what a private citizen can do at a border.
 
Hi Bill,



Talkin about a radical about face kinda change.

(Not that there is any chance Trump would do this. Talkin about a completely hypothetical scenario, here.)

Suppose Trump suddenly took liberal positions. Suppose he said he was wrong about immigrants and we should help them. Suppose he stopped holding them in cages, released them pending a hearing. Suppose he said we would really be better off with socialized health care. What if he said he was wrong about climate change and we have to take steps to reverse emissions? What if he wanted to start a carbon tax? What if he put solar panels on the White House and said everybody should drive smaller cars and look into getting electric cars, maybe have a subsidy? What if he said we really have been bad to blacks, that black lives do matter, and we should put a lot more money into schools in bad neighborhoods? What if he said we should take in millions of climate refugees?

His current followers would absolutely flip on him and become his worst detractors. I don't see any way the deplorable haters are going to go right along with Trump just because and if (big if, eh?) he renounced all his hateful positions. Hypothetically speaking, of course, because we would also have to wonder what happened to him and if he is possessed.
No, he's the leader of a cult. His followers would just abruptly change their minds and insist that that's the way it's always been.

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Hello rjhenn,

No, he's the leader of a cult. His followers would just abruptly change their minds and insist that that's the way it's always been.

Interesting. I disagree. Naturally, it's a completely hypothetical situation so we'll never find out, but I think if Trump were to embrace socialism, climate change, fairness to immigrants and minorities? His crowd would turn on him. He didn't create hatred for liberalism. All he did was tap into it. Racism is a much bigger problem than Trump, has been around far longer than his rise to power. I don't think he created birtherism either. All he did was amplify it, just like he has done for racism. Birtherism was really just an extension of racism. It was a way for racists to oppose/hate Obama while still claiming they are not racist. Much as white nationalism is doing today.

He does have great sway over his followers, but only within certain boundaries that they are comfortable in.

And it's not like just getting rid of Trump is going to get rid of all this hatred.

After Trump there will be others, more 'Trumps.'

Hopefully, none will rise to his level of power, but few realized that he would ever get as far as he has gotten. Remember, he was laughed at when he announced his candidacy.
 
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