Ornot, someone...

[Sammy Jankis]

Ornot, where are you?

But seriously, is ranked voting, or representational assmunching bettter or worse for the republic than fiat currency?

 

[Sammy Jankis]

I think watermark is right.


I actually believe in pure referendum on all legislation and the disbandment of congress. Fuck those bastards.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Huh?

Ok. Whatever. All of you are right, even if you disagreed with each other.

 

[Epicurus]

I think watermark is right.


I actually believe in pure referendum on all legislation and the disbandment of congress. Fuck those bastards.

If their was no mechanism to enforce the Constitution, referendums would be a bad idea. Our system of government is not totalitarian rule by the majority. The "checks and balances" you heard so much about in Civics class serve as much to protect the minority as the majority.

The filibuster is an excellent example. Just because something has 51% support doesn't mean it's a good thing. If 51% of the Congress voted to execute the dissenting 49%, that would not make it right, just, or free despite it having been a democratically reached decision.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

If their was no mechanism to enforce the Constitution, referendums would be a bad idea. Our system of government is not totalitarian rule by the majority. The "checks and balances" you heard so much about in Civics class serve as much to protect the minority as the majority.

The filibuster is an excellent example. Just because something has 51% support doesn't mean it's a good thing. If 51% of the Congress voted to execute the dissenting 49%, that would not make it right, just, or free despite it having been a democratically reached decision.

Just because 61% of congress wants something doesn't mean anything either then, Warren. Maybe we should just disband congress and the government and have no laws. Because that's the territory you're reaching into.

What does a majority mean? It means more people want it than not want it. It should be the primary thing we base our governmental system around.

What I like about the filibuster, however, is that it actually forces congress to continue debating the law. It doesn't just take the law off the table.

And that's what I don't like about the veto. The veto is, more often than not, used by the president to make himself into some sort of super-legislator that forces the congress to add his favored ammendments to a bill or face a veto. The first veto ever used was on an apportionment bill by George Washington; primarily because he wanted Virginia to have another seat in congress and he knew of other apportionment methods that would do this. The apportionment HAD to be passed, you see. And the president knew how to make things go his way.

 

[Topper]

Could you please tell Damo that the method they used to elect the president in 1789 has absolutely nothing to do with proportional representation?

I can't get through to him. He has absolutely no idea at all what he's talking about and it's just annoying the hell out of me.

He randomly and haphazardly introduced the subject into a conversation we were having to try to insult me, but he apparently just made something up in his argment. I'm really baffled as to how he gets this. So, someone, please explain the concept to him.

More millionaires than ever before.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

If their was no mechanism to enforce the Constitution, referendums would be a bad idea. Our system of government is not totalitarian rule by the majority. The "checks and balances" you heard so much about in Civics class serve as much to protect the minority as the majority.

The filibuster is an excellent example. Just because something has 51% support doesn't mean it's a good thing. If 51% of the Congress voted to execute the dissenting 49%, that would not make it right, just, or free despite it having been a democratically reached decision.

Checks and balances means shit. It means the elites must control three entities to give the illusion of protection and power to the people. All three branches are focused on screwing the people.

Disband the government.