Orwell Diagnosed DEMOCRATS Decades Ago

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The leftist's lament is almost old enough to qualify for Medicare.

“Why are DEMOCRATS losing the working class? Why do they like our policies but vote for the party that comforts the comfortable? What’s wrong with our messaging? What’s wrong with our candidates?”

Odd as it may seem, a partial answer can be found in the works of a writer who never set foot in the United States and who has been dead for more than 70 years.

When George Orwell traveled to the Depression-ravaged north of England in 1936, his intention was to chronicle the horrific conditions in the mines, the towns and the homes of the people who lived and worked there. (His account of the near starvation, the hellish conditions in the mines, the sights, sounds and smells of life are still riveting all these decades later).

It is in the second half of his book, “The Road to Wigan Pier,” where Orwell deals with a broader question: If socialism is the way toward providing a fairer, more decent life for those with the least, why has it not succeeded politically? His answer — one that unsettled his Left Book Club’s publisher — was that there was a deep cultural chasm between the advocates of socialism and those they were seeking to persuade.

“I am,” Orwell wrote, “making out a case for the sort of person who is in sympathy with the fundamental aims of Socialism, but who in practice always takes flight when Socialism is mentioned".

Why is this account relevant to the DEMOCRAT Party’s condition today?

Because ultimately, too many otherwise persuadable voters have realized that DEMOCRATS neither understand nor reflect their values.

We saw how clearly the extremes can drag down the party after the results of the 2020 down-ballot elections, and again after last November’s DEMOCRAT losses in Virginia, Long Island and local races across the country.



https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/04/19/orwell-teach-democrats-working-class-00025047
 
"He really nailed it. If you don't know look up 1984."

People who say that never tell you that Eric Blair (George Orwell) was a self-described DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. He was an active member of the British LABOUR PARTY. He welcomed the LABOUR LANDSLIDE of 1945. The postwar Labour Government founded the NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE (universal healthcare free at the point of use). Three quarters of a century later the US still doesn't have one. Does Donald Dump Junior want one? What do you think?


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It is, in fact, a measure of the Democrats’ failure that so many ordinary Americans embrace a figure whose father illicitly supplied the money that enabled his rise, who repeatedly imported undocumented immigrants to work on his properties, who reputedly stiffed those who worked for him, whose father’s doctor helped him evade the draft, and whose tax cuts flatly violated his campaign pledge to make the rich pay more.
- from the link in the OP.

Agreed. But did the "figure" in question ever get a majority of the people's vote? No, it did not.
 
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Legion said:
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The leftist's lament is almost old enough to qualify for Medicare.

“Why are DEMOCRATS losing the working class? Why do they like our policies but vote for the party that comforts the comfortable? What’s wrong with our messaging? What’s wrong with our candidates?”

Odd as it may seem, a partial answer can be found in the works of a writer who never set foot in the United States and who has been dead for more than 70 years.

When George Orwell traveled to the Depression-ravaged north of England in 1936, his intention was to chronicle the horrific conditions in the mines, the towns and the homes of the people who lived and worked there. (His account of the near starvation, the hellish conditions in the mines, the sights, sounds and smells of life are still riveting all these decades later).

It is in the second half of his book, “The Road to Wigan Pier,” where Orwell deals with a broader question: If socialism is the way toward providing a fairer, more decent life for those with the least, why has it not succeeded politically? His answer — one that unsettled his Left Book Club’s publisher — was that there was a deep cultural chasm between the advocates of socialism and those they were seeking to persuade.

“I am,” Orwell wrote, “making out a case for the sort of person who is in sympathy with the fundamental aims of Socialism, but who in practice always takes flight when Socialism is mentioned".

Why is this account relevant to the DEMOCRAT Party’s condition today?

Because ultimately, too many otherwise persuadable voters have realized that DEMOCRATS neither understand nor reflect their values.

We saw how clearly the extremes can drag down the party after the results of the 2020 down-ballot elections, and again after last November’s DEMOCRAT losses in Virginia, Long Island and local races across the country.



https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/04/19/orwell-teach-democrats-working-class-00025047
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democrats hate populism. and populists.

all their talk about caring is insincere.

they really want to murder the poor with bad genocide policy.

They're malthusians.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
"He really nailed it. If you don't know look up 1984."

People who say that never tell you that Eric Blair (George Orwell) was a self-described DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. He was an active member of the British LABOUR PARTY. He welcomed the LABOUR LANDSLIDE of 1945. The postwar Labour Government founded the NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE (universal healthcare free at the point of use). Three quarters of a century later the US still doesn't have one. Does Donald Dump Junior want one? What do you think?


Added:

It is, in fact, a measure of the Democrats’ failure that so many ordinary Americans embrace a figure whose father illicitly supplied the money that enabled his rise, who repeatedly imported undocumented immigrants to work on his properties, who reputedly stiffed those who worked for him, whose father’s doctor helped him evade the draft, and whose tax cuts flatly violated his campaign pledge to make the rich pay more.
- from the link in the OP.

Agreed. But did the "figure" in question ever get a majority of the people's vote? No, it did not.
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he was still right about how modern tyranny looks.
 
Jeebus, people, you know nothing of Orwell, he was a Democratic Socialist. It’s hilarious you use his words and don’t know this. :laugh:
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
"He really nailed it. If you don't know look up 1984."

People who say that never tell you that Eric Blair (George Orwell) was a self-described DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. He was an active member of the British LABOUR PARTY. He welcomed the LABOUR LANDSLIDE of 1945. The postwar Labour Government founded the NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE (universal healthcare free at the point of use). Three quarters of a century later the US still doesn't have one. Does Donald Dump Junior want one? What do you think?


Added:

It is, in fact, a measure of the Democrats’ failure that so many ordinary Americans embrace a figure whose father illicitly supplied the money that enabled his rise, who repeatedly imported undocumented immigrants to work on his properties, who reputedly stiffed those who worked for him, whose father’s doctor helped him evade the draft, and whose tax cuts flatly violated his campaign pledge to make the rich pay more.
- from the link in the OP.

Agreed. But did the "figure" in question ever get a majority of the people's vote? No, it did not.
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Isn’t it hilarious, they use a Democratic Socialist that left of Bernie Sanders to criticize Democrats. I’m still laughing
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
"He really nailed it. If you don't know look up 1984."

People who say that never tell you that Eric Blair (George Orwell) was a self-described DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST. He was an active member of the British LABOUR PARTY. He welcomed the LABOUR LANDSLIDE of 1945. The postwar Labour Government founded the NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE (universal healthcare free at the point of use). Three quarters of a century later the US still doesn't have one. Does Donald Dump Junior want one? What do you think?


Added:

It is, in fact, a measure of the Democrats’ failure that so many ordinary Americans embrace a figure whose father illicitly supplied the money that enabled his rise, who repeatedly imported undocumented immigrants to work on his properties, who reputedly stiffed those who worked for him, whose father’s doctor helped him evade the draft, and whose tax cuts flatly violated his campaign pledge to make the rich pay more.
- from the link in the OP.

Agreed. But did the "figure" in question ever get a majority of the people's vote? No, it did not.
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I have never run across a MAGA fat ass who was aware George Orwell was a life long committed democratic socialist.

That tells you right there MAGA does not actually know anything about George Orwell, they are just parroting what they heard rightwing media personalities say.
 
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Orwell, himself a socialist, argues first that “Socialism in its developed form is a theory confined entirely to the middle class.”

In its language, it is formal, stilted, wholly distant from the language of ordinary citizens, spoken by people who are several rungs above their audience, and with no intention of giving up that status.

“It is doubtful whether anything describable as proletarian literature now exists, but a good music hall comedian comes nearer to producing it than any Socialist writer I can think of.”

In the most provocative segment of the entire book, Orwell also cites “the horrible, the really disquieting prevalence of cranks wherever Socialists are gathered together.

One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words ‘Socialism’ and ‘Communism’ draw toward them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, ‘Nature Cure’ quack, pacifist, and feminist in England.”

And he notes the prospectus for a summer Socialist school in which attendees are asked if they prefer a vegetarian diet.

Orwell, himself a socialist, argues first that “Socialism in its developed form is a theory confined entirely to the [relatively well-off] middle class.” In its language, it is formal, stilted, wholly distant from the language of ordinary citizens, spoken by people who are several rungs above their audience, and with no intention of giving up that status.

“It is doubtful whether anything describable as proletarian literature now exists … but a good music hall comedian comes nearer to producing it than any Socialist writer I can think of.”

In the most provocative segment of the entire book, Orwell also cites “the horrible, the really disquieting prevalence of cranks wherever Socialists are gathered together.

One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words ‘Socialism’ and ‘Communism’ draw toward them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, ‘Nature Cure’ quack, pacifist, and feminist in England.”

And he notes the prospectus for a summer Socialist school in which attendees are asked if they prefer a vegetarian diet.



https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/04/19/orwell-teach-democrats-working-class-00025047
 
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