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This started off with Midcan starting a thread called 'What We Owe to Each Other' and then posting a somewhat lenghy post that could be seen as support for Communism.
Any way; Apple chimed in with an equally lengthy comment that ended with the following statement:
I then asked him the following question:
To which he replied:
To which I asked for a clarification:
To which Apple responded with mrore verbosity, in an attempt to remove himself from the corner he was painting himself into
Since it was obvious that Apple was now attempting to spin himself a safety shield, to protect himself from his own asininity, I asked the following; but notice that he is now moving away from his declaration that people "owe" to the phrase "equal time":
As you can see in Apple's response, that he's becoming more desperate to find a way out of that painted corner.
Since Apple appears to not even know what he's suggesting should happen, in his usage of "equal time", and it looks like he''s decided to try and spin his response in a direction that he found more comfortable, I decided to see what direction he would go:
And in his following reply; he starts his backpedaling and trying to juggle at the same time:
The rest of the exchange is just Apple dodging the responsibility of taking a stand and actually owning his behavior.
Zap decided to throw his 2 cents in, seeing as how he's lost, since his Bromance has left and he desperately needs an anchor to tie himself to; but anyone being honest can see that this is just another example of Apple spinning his replies, because he can't back his original comments.
Now he'll try to prove me wrong, by actually making statements that he can't avoid; but give it time and he'll revert back to his standard behavior, because he can't change since he's ingrained with the behavior after so many years.
Any way; Apple chimed in with an equally lengthy comment that ended with the following statement:
We owe each other the basic necessities and we owe each other to at least try to remedy any problems which interfere in their ability to obtain a decent life; be it medical care, education, counselling, etc.
I then asked him the following question:
And the persons who are getting these "basic necessities", without really working for them; what do they owe and to who??
To which he replied:
Followed by another lenghty diatribe.They owe an honest effort to try and contribute to society. However, if a person is unemployed, before we assume they're lazy, find them a job and see if they show up for work.
To which I asked for a clarification:
So the people out of work aren't obligated to owe anything?
To which Apple responded with mrore verbosity, in an attempt to remove himself from the corner he was painting himself into
It depends on what you mean by "owe". If one is unemployed and living well off investments then, sure, they owe. If one is unemployed and in poverty they certainly don't owe money. They do "owe" equal time should the community face a disaster and require the assistance of everyone.
Since it was obvious that Apple was now attempting to spin himself a safety shield, to protect himself from his own asininity, I asked the following; but notice that he is now moving away from his declaration that people "owe" to the phrase "equal time":
But only during a disaster!!
And if they don't put in that "equal time"??
As you can see in Apple's response, that he's becoming more desperate to find a way out of that painted corner.
It depends on what the equal time involves. For example, a hundred years ago most people lived out their lives in one place. In a small community if a road needed built the people would get together and do it or they might build a community center. Others would supply food for the workers.
Today, projects are done by professionals and most citizens contribute through financial means.
Since Apple appears to not even know what he's suggesting should happen, in his usage of "equal time", and it looks like he''s decided to try and spin his response in a direction that he found more comfortable, I decided to see what direction he would go:
That wasn't what I asked you.
And in his following reply; he starts his backpedaling and trying to juggle at the same time:
"It depends on what the equal time involves." If you're not satisfied with my answer clarify what you mean.
The rest of the exchange is just Apple dodging the responsibility of taking a stand and actually owning his behavior.
Zap decided to throw his 2 cents in, seeing as how he's lost, since his Bromance has left and he desperately needs an anchor to tie himself to; but anyone being honest can see that this is just another example of Apple spinning his replies, because he can't back his original comments.
Now he'll try to prove me wrong, by actually making statements that he can't avoid; but give it time and he'll revert back to his standard behavior, because he can't change since he's ingrained with the behavior after so many years.