Philosophy degree may soon be worth more than computer science degree

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My two cents? There are a crap load of STEM majors out in the job market who cannot write well, cannot think creatively, cannot speak lucidly, and are unskilled at rhetoric or logic.

Mark Cuban says studying philosophy may soon be worth more than computer science—here's why

According to billionaire technology entrepreneur Mark Cuban, earning a college degree in computer science might not be the safe investment you think it is.

Today, students who study computer science have a high likelihood of scoring a lucrative job: Glassdoor determined computer science and engineering to be the number one highest-paying major to study in 2017. Meanwhile, students of liberal arts subjects often make far less.

But Cuban, also an investor on ABC's "Shark Tank," expects that to change.

"I'm going to make a prediction," Cuban told AOL in 2017. "In 10 years, a liberal arts degree in philosophy will be worth more than a traditional programming degree." That's because Cuban expects artificial intelligence technology to vastly change the job market, and he anticipates that eventually technology will become so smart it can program itself.

"What is happening now with artificial intelligence is we'll start automating automation," Cuban tells AOL. "Artificial intelligence won't need you or I to do it, it will be able to figure out itself how to automate [tasks] over the next 10 to 15 years.

"Now the hard part isn't whether or not it will change the nature of the work force — it will," he continues. "The question is, over the period of time that it happens, who will be displaced?"

He views previously lucrative jobs in industries like accounting and computer programming as subject to the powers of automation. To remain competitive, Cuban advises ditching degrees that teach specific skills or professions and opting for degrees that teach you to think in a big picture way, like philosophy.

"Knowing how to critically think and assess them from a global perspective, I think, is going to be more valuable than what we see as exciting careers today which might be programming or CPA or those types of things," says Cuban, speaking at SXSW in Austin in 2017.

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Interesting, but I don't know if I'd agree with him, actually been hearing similar type arguments for decades, better to be a generalist than picking up a designated trade or skill, never seemed to work out that way.

And I would have loved to have been a philosophy major, I attended a Jesuit institution where it and theology were mandatory
 
archives said:
Interesting, but I don't know if I'd agree with him, actually been hearing similar type arguments for decades, better to be a generalist than picking up a designated trade or skill, never seemed to work out that way.

And I would have loved to have been a philosophy major, I attended a Jesuit institution where it and theology were mandatory
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Cheers.

Ideally, I think the truly well-rounded individual needs to have strengths in both technical subject matter, as well as the more traditional liberal arts trades of writing, communication, rhetoric, and logic.

If I get to choose professions in subsequent reincarnations of my life, it will be philosopher, historian, oceanographer, astronomer, archeologist....and rock star!
 
Cypress said:
Cheers.

Ideally, I think the truly well-rounded individual needs to have strengths in both technical subject matter, as well as the more traditional liberal arts trades of writing, communication, rhetoric, and logic.

If I get to choose professions in subsequent reincarnations of my life, it will be philosopher, historian, oceanographer, astronomer, archeologist....and rock star!
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There are very strange and beautiful things in the deep.
 
Cypress said:
My two cents? There are a crap load of STEM majors out in the job market who cannot write well, cannot think creatively, cannot speak lucidly, and are unskilled at rhetoric or logic.
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Agreed. I want my barista to be well educated.
 
Sailor said:
There are very strange and beautiful things in the deep.
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I grew up watching Jacques Cousteau and the Apollo missions, so as a boy it was always going to either astronaut or oceanographer for me. Sadly, I failed on both counts!
 
The future is really in recumbinate technology, not technology creating technology on that side of the field, which could open it up more to other majors.
 
Cypress said:
Cheers.

Ideally, I think the truly well-rounded individual needs to have strengths in both technical subject matter, as well as the more traditional liberal arts trades of writing, communication, rhetoric, and logic.

If I get to choose professions in subsequent reincarnations of my life, it will be philosopher, historian, oceanographer, astronomer, archeologist....and rock star!
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You won't get to. Once you are done failing at this life, that will be it.
 
Cypress said:
My two cents? There are a crap load of STEM majors out in the job market who cannot write well, cannot think creatively, cannot speak lucidly, and are unskilled at rhetoric or logic.
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My undergrad embryology tests were all essay and points were deducted for spelling and grammar mistakes.
 
archives said:
Interesting, but I don't know if I'd agree with him, actually been hearing similar type arguments for decades, better to be a generalist than picking up a designated trade or skill, never seemed to work out that way.

And I would have loved to have been a philosophy major, I attended a Jesuit institution where it and theology were mandatory
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It seems to me that garden variety technical work is becoming more automated. With the statistical software packages out there, I don't need a bachelor's degree in math or statistics to do statistical analysis - I just need generalized knowledge of statistics to interpret the results.

But one cannot really succeed at any professional job without good writing and speaking skill combined with a focus on logic, clear thinking, and the rhetorical arts.
 
Cypress said:
It seems to me that garden variety technical work is becoming more automated. With the statistical software packages out there, I don't need a bachelor's degree in math or statistics to do statistical analysis - I just need generalized knowledge of statistics to interpret the results.

But one cannot really succeed at any professional job without good writing and speaking skill combined with a focus on logic, clear thinking, and the rhetorical arts.
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How does any of that apply to Trump?
 
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