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Don Quixote

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Traditionally, winners of battles and wars pillage the losers.

In the instance of the Iraq war, the pillaged are the Iraqis and the US of A Treasury.

Why do we have 180,000 civilian contractors and mercenaries and only 150,000 troops? If bushco had called for a draft there would have been impeachment proceedings against bushco and congress.

Also, the mercenaries dress like our troops, have no rules of engagement and are paid about 10 times what our troops are paid.

Oh well
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In Milton's "Utopia" he actually called for an entire military of mercenaries. Instead of a country sacrificing it's young, noble, peaceful patriots in a war (which would be especially true in case of a draft, as we would even be murdering those that had no desire to go), we could sacrifice our greedy people only out for profit, and at the same time, we'd also be taking out the warmongerers in other nations. Kill two birds with one stone.

However, logic escapes people like you two.
 
I'm wondering with some hawkish open borders neocon proposes amnesty for illegal immigrants who agree to a 4 yr service.
 
Janissaries,

Check out the Janissary phenomenon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissary
Origin of the Janissaries
Gun-wielding Ottoman Janissaries and defending Knights of Saint John, Siege of Rhodes, 1522.
Gun-wielding Ottoman Janissaries and defending Knights of Saint John, Siege of Rhodes, 1522.

Sultan Murad I of the fledgling Ottoman Empire founded the units around 1365. It was initially formed of Dhimmi (non-Muslims, originally exempted from the military service), especially Christian youths and prisoners of war, reminiscent of Mamelukes. Sultan Murad may have also used futuwa groups as a model.

Such Janissaries became the first Ottoman standing army, replacing forces that mostly comprised tribal ghazis, whose loyalty and morale could not always be trusted.

As corps other than the infantry were added, the totality of the Ottoman standing army corps was called Kapıkulu, however the term Janissary, which formally refers to one of the Kapıkulu corps is often used interchangeably (albeit incorrectly) for all of the Ottoman Kapıkulu Corps.
Significance of the Janissaries

The Janissary corps was significant in a number of ways. The Janissaries wore uniforms, were paid in cash as regular soldiers, and marched to distinctive music, the mehter, similar to a modern marching band. All of these features set the Janissaries apart from most soldiers of the time.

The Ottomans were the first state to maintain a standing army in Europe since the Roman Empire. The Janissaries have been likened to the Roman Praetorian Guard and they had no equivalent in the Christian armies of the time, where the feudal lords raised troops during wartime.[1] A janissary regiment was effectively the soldier's family. They lived in their barracks and served as policemen and firefighters during peacetime.[2]
A Janissary drawing by Gentile Bellini (15th century).
A Janissary drawing by Gentile Bellini (15th century).

The Janissary corps was also distinctive in the regular payment of a cash salary to the troops, and differed from the contemporary practice of paying troops only during wartime. The Janissaries were paid quarterly and the Sultan himself, after authorizing the payment of the salaries, dressed as a Janissary, visited the barracks and received his salary as a regular trooper of the First Division.[3]

The Janissary force became particularly significant when the foot soldier carrying firearms proved more effective than the cavalry equipped with sword and spear.[4] Janissaries adopted firearms very early, starting in 15th century. By the 16th century, the main weapon of the Janissary was the musket. Janissaries also made extensive use of early grenades and hand cannon.[3]

The auxiliary support system of the Janissaries also set them apart from their contemporaries. The Janissaries waged war as one part of a well organized military machine. The Ottoman army had a corps to prepare the road, a corps to pitch the tents ahead, a corps to bake the bread. The cebeci corps carried and distributed weapons and ammunition. The Janissary corps had its own internal medical auxiliaries: Muslim and Jewish surgeons who would travel with the corps during campaigns and had organized methods of moving the wounded and the sick to traveling hospitals behind the lines.[3]

These differences, along with a war-record that was impressive, made the Janissaries into a subject of interest and study by foreigners in their own time. Although eventually the concept of the modern army incorporated and surpassed most of the distinctions of the Janissary, and the Ottoman Empire dissolved the Janissary corps, the image of the Janissary has remained as one of the symbols of the Ottomans in the western psyche.

In modern times, although the Janissary corps no longer exists as a professional fighting force, the tradition of mehter music is carried on as a cultural and tourist attraction.

[edit] Recruitment, training and status
 
In Milton's "Utopia" he actually called for an entire military of mercenaries. Instead of a country sacrificing it's young, noble, peaceful patriots in a war (which would be especially true in case of a draft, as we would even be murdering those that had no desire to go), we could sacrifice our greedy people only out for profit, and at the same time, we'd also be taking out the warmongerers in other nations. Kill two birds with one stone.

However, logic escapes people like you two.

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read robert asprin's cold cash war...
 
Janissaries,

Check out the Janissary phenomenon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissary
Origin of the Janissaries
Gun-wielding Ottoman Janissaries and defending Knights of Saint John, Siege of Rhodes, 1522.
Gun-wielding Ottoman Janissaries and defending Knights of Saint John, Siege of Rhodes, 1522.

Sultan Murad I of the fledgling Ottoman Empire founded the units around 1365. It was initially formed of Dhimmi (non-Muslims, originally exempted from the military service), especially Christian youths and prisoners of war, reminiscent of Mamelukes. Sultan Murad may have also used futuwa groups as a model.

Such Janissaries became the first Ottoman standing army, replacing forces that mostly comprised tribal ghazis, whose loyalty and morale could not always be trusted.

As corps other than the infantry were added, the totality of the Ottoman standing army corps was called Kapıkulu, however the term Janissary, which formally refers to one of the Kapıkulu corps is often used interchangeably (albeit incorrectly) for all of the Ottoman Kapıkulu Corps.
Significance of the Janissaries

The Janissary corps was significant in a number of ways. The Janissaries wore uniforms, were paid in cash as regular soldiers, and marched to distinctive music, the mehter, similar to a modern marching band. All of these features set the Janissaries apart from most soldiers of the time.

The Ottomans were the first state to maintain a standing army in Europe since the Roman Empire. The Janissaries have been likened to the Roman Praetorian Guard and they had no equivalent in the Christian armies of the time, where the feudal lords raised troops during wartime.[1] A janissary regiment was effectively the soldier's family. They lived in their barracks and served as policemen and firefighters during peacetime.[2]
A Janissary drawing by Gentile Bellini (15th century).
A Janissary drawing by Gentile Bellini (15th century).

The Janissary corps was also distinctive in the regular payment of a cash salary to the troops, and differed from the contemporary practice of paying troops only during wartime. The Janissaries were paid quarterly and the Sultan himself, after authorizing the payment of the salaries, dressed as a Janissary, visited the barracks and received his salary as a regular trooper of the First Division.[3]

The Janissary force became particularly significant when the foot soldier carrying firearms proved more effective than the cavalry equipped with sword and spear.[4] Janissaries adopted firearms very early, starting in 15th century. By the 16th century, the main weapon of the Janissary was the musket. Janissaries also made extensive use of early grenades and hand cannon.[3]

The auxiliary support system of the Janissaries also set them apart from their contemporaries. The Janissaries waged war as one part of a well organized military machine. The Ottoman army had a corps to prepare the road, a corps to pitch the tents ahead, a corps to bake the bread. The cebeci corps carried and distributed weapons and ammunition. The Janissary corps had its own internal medical auxiliaries: Muslim and Jewish surgeons who would travel with the corps during campaigns and had organized methods of moving the wounded and the sick to traveling hospitals behind the lines.[3]

These differences, along with a war-record that was impressive, made the Janissaries into a subject of interest and study by foreigners in their own time. Although eventually the concept of the modern army incorporated and surpassed most of the distinctions of the Janissary, and the Ottoman Empire dissolved the Janissary corps, the image of the Janissary has remained as one of the symbols of the Ottomans in the western psyche.

In modern times, although the Janissary corps no longer exists as a professional fighting force, the tradition of mehter music is carried on as a cultural and tourist attraction.

[edit] Recruitment, training and status

ahz

try the OED version

1. One of a former body of Turkish infantry, constituting the Sultan's guard and the main part of the standing army. The body was first organized in the 14th century, and was composed mainly of tributary children of Christians; after a large number of them had been massacred in 1826, the organization was finally abolished.
{alpha} 1529 MORE Dyaloge IV. xv. Xija/2 Mammolukes & genysaryes about ye turke and sowdeyn. 1562 SHUTE Cambine's Turk. Wars 36b, Upon the death of Mahomethe, the Gianizzaries marched with all spede to Constantinople. 1579 J. JONES Preserv. Bodie & Soule I. xxxix. 87 As his Ienesaries are instructed al too Heathenly. 1585 T. WASHINGTON tr. Nicholay's Voy. II. xxiv. 65b, The Sarail of the Azamoglans or Ianissaries. 1586 T. B. La Primaud. Fr. Acad. (1589) 407 Being advertised..of the valure of a yong Ianitsarie. Ibid. 718 The Pretorian soldiours (who were to the emperours as the Ianitzaries are to the Turke). 1702 W. J. Bruyn's Voy. Levant xxv. 107 The Janizaries..compos'd partly of Tributary Children, and partly of voluntary Renegades. 1717 LADY M. W. MONTAGU Let. to Pope 12 Feb., We were met..by an aga of the janisaries. 1832 tr. Sismondi's Ital. Rep. xi. 241 The new militia of the janissaries was, at the same time, the best infantry in Europe. 1866 FELTON Anc. & Mod. Gr. II. II. v. 343 The place called the At Midan is memorable in recent history for the slaughter of the janizaries.
{beta} a1548 HALL Chron., Hen. VIII, 191b, Thei were firste robbed of the Ianizeres, and..shamfully slain. 1572 W. MALIM in Hakluyt Voy. (1599) II. I. 127 The Lieutenant of Mustafa, and the Aga of the Giannizzers. 1597 BP. HALL Sat. IV. iv, Then falls to praise the hardy Ianizar That sucks his horse side, thirsting in the war. 1598 FLORIO, Ianizzeri, the Turkes gard, Ianizers. 1713 Lond. Gaz. No. 5106/1 The Janisar Aga..went to the King. 1821 SHELLEY Hellas 240 The Janizars Clamour for pay.
{gamma} 1704 J. PITTS Acc. Mohometans 160 The Cull Ougles, that is, the Sons of the Yenesherres, or Soldiers.

2. By extension, any Turkish soldier; esp. one of an escort for travellers in the East.
1615 tr. De Monfart's Surv. E. Ind. 3 Trauellers..become as poore wretched slaues subject to all injuries..from which their very Ianisaries and Gardes cannot alwayes defend them. 1642 HOWELL For. Trav. (Arb.) 83 He may go to Venice, where he may agree with a Janizary to conduct him in company of a Caravan all the way through the Continent of Greece as farre as Constantinople. 1775 CHANDLER Trav. Asia M. (1825) I. 100 Our janizary was unwilling to go then. 1812 BYRON Ch. Har. II. App. Di, The traveller whose janissary flogs them. 1847 DISRAELI Tancred III. vi, Eva..mounted her horse;..before whom marched her janissary armed to the teeth.

3. In various allusive and figurative uses, from prec. senses.
a. 1565 JEWEL Repl. Harding (1611) 6 Such eloquence might better become some of your yonger Iannizers. 1599 NASHE Lenten Stuffe 32 Being not much behinde in the check-roule of his Ianissaries and contributories, with Eagle~soaring Bullingbrooke. 1663 Flagellum or O. Cromwell (1672) 145 Volleys of Acclamations, were given at the close of this mock solemnity, by Cromwel's Janizaries. 1679 Establ. Test 26 The Romish Janizaries are the tribute Children of all Europe. 1810 JEFFERSON Writ. (1830) IV. 153 The shipping interest, commercial interest, and their janizaries of the navy. 1867 FREEMAN Norm. Conq. I. vi. 581 The King had now at his command a body of Janissaries..ready to carry out his personal will.
b. 1612 T. LAVENDER Trav. Four Englishm. Pref. Cjb, The heauenly Ierusalem..Iesus Christ being our Pilot and Ienisarie to conduct vs thereunto. 1659 D. PELL Impr. Sea To Rdr. div, Let this Epistle be thy Janisary, or Pole-star to the perusal of this book.

4. attrib. and Comb. janizary music [G. janitscharenmusik] = Turkish music (TURKISH a. 2b); janizary pedal, a pedal attached to some old pianofortes, etc., having an arrangement of drums and cymbals connected with it, by which a sound as of martial music was produced.
1642 SIR E. DERING Sp. on Relig. xvi. 121 Monks, Fryers, and Secular Priests, with his Janizary Jesuits. 1812 SIR R. WILSON Priv. Diary I. 123 Even under Janissary prejudice and despotism civilization is advancing. 1888 F. MOSCHELES tr. Mendelssohn's Lett. to I. & C. Moscheles 54 He must have a cradle song with drums and trumpets and janissary music. 1896 A. J. HIPKINS Descr. & Hist. Pianoforte 106 Drum and triangle (for Janissary music). 1900 Pall Mall Gaz. 21 May 4/2 Even Mozart condescended to employ the ‘Janissary pedal’ in one or two of his sonatas. 1922 J. RIVIERE tr. Freud's Introd. Lect. Psycho-Anal. 75 The little bells, shaken violently, begin their familiar janizary music.

Hence janiza{sm}resque a., in the style of a janizary.
1835 New Monthly Mag. XLV. 5 A most trenchant and janissaresque style of handling his cleaver.:readit:
 
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