Poll: Barack Obama 42%, Ron Paul 41%

If Republicans ran him all we'd have to do is blast the newsletters over and over on the television. It'd be like taking candy from a baby.
 
Ron Paul isn't polling well in the Republican primary polls that have been released. And he's not going to run as an independent.

I think this must just be the effect of Republicans being willing to vote for a demon rapist before Obama.
 
Dano, if this guy is SOOOO electable why doesn't HIS party nominate him? He could not win a single state last election. YOUR party doesn't like him because with the exception of abortion, based on his previous occupation and not religious beliefs, he doesn't the social conservative line. Republicans don't like him and won't elect him.
 
Socrtease said:
Dano, if this guy is SOOOO electable why doesn't HIS party nominate him? He could not win a single state last election. YOUR party doesn't like him because with the exception of abortion, based on his previous occupation and not religious beliefs, he doesn't the social conservative line. Republicans don't like him and won't elect him.
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Because Republicans wouldn't want the constitutional restrictions upon them that Paul would demand.
 
AND Paul is not socially conservative enough. The Party is held hostage by the Jesus Freaks who think it is governments job to save our souls. That allowing same sex marriage is the same thing as condoning it.
 
Socrtease said:
Dano, if this guy is SOOOO electable why doesn't HIS party nominate him? He could not win a single state last election. YOUR party doesn't like him because with the exception of abortion, based on his previous occupation and not religious beliefs, he doesn't the social conservative line. Republicans don't like him and won't elect him.
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what's the poll say? You're living in the past. the size of the religious right is drastically overblown. The vast majority of conservatives are not frothing fundies
 
tinfoil said:
what's the poll say? You're living in the past. the size of the religious right is drastically overblown. The vast majority of conservatives are not frothing fundies
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and if the VAST Majority of Conservatives voted in the primaries your point might actually have some weight. Paul did not win a single state in the last election cycle. Every two years fiscal conservatives jump up and down about how Paul is doing so well in polls. He cannot win a primary battle. There is nothing in his past to show he can even come close. Republicans are not going to elect someone that does not tow the social conservative line. But pretend away.
 
From Rassmussen:

Obama earns 79% support from Democrats, but Paul gets just 66% of GOP votes. Voters not affiliated with either major party give Paul a 47% to 28% edge over the president.

GOP Primaries are controlled in most states by members that are socially and fiscally conservative, which is why candidates say in the primaries you run hard to the right and in the general back to the middle, though when McCain attempted to run in the middle in the last election, conservatives threatened to leave him in droves, until someone picked the MILF as his running mate. I believe in a general election Paul could win, but he will never get to the general.
 
What would be really interesting, imo, in a race between the two is I bet Obama would run to the right of Paul on some/most foreign policy issues. Again this is all hypothetical but would we see an ad similar in nature to LBJ's against Goldwater with the 'do you trust this guy with his finger on the button' theme from Obama?
 
cawacko said:
What would be really interesting, imo, in a race between the two is I bet Obama would run to the right of Paul on some/most foreign policy issues. Again this is all hypothetical but would we see an ad similar in nature to LBJ's against Goldwater with the 'do you trust this guy with his finger on the button' theme from Obama?
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According to this article (admittedly a five-year old one), Paul is/was the most conservative member of Congress. I don't know that much about him other than he was born here in the 'burgh. But if he really is this conservative, it would be kinda tough for Obama to run to the right of him.


http://voteview.com/Is_John_Kerry_A_Liberal.htm
 
christiefan915 said:
According to this article (admittedly a five-year old one), Paul is/was the most conservative member of Congress. I don't know that much about him other than he was born here in the 'burgh. But if he really is this conservative, it would be kinda tough for Obama to run to the right of him.


http://voteview.com/Is_John_Kerry_A_Liberal.htm
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There are people here who know way more about him than me but do you remember during the '08 campaign the support he got from some on the left for being fully against Iraq and Afghanistan? Even Darla was on here saying some of her Code Pink friends were looking into Paul for that reason. He's run on wanting to bring most of the U.S. soldiers in foreign countries on bases back home. During the Republican Primaries of '08 many of the Republicans, especially Guiliani tried to show their foreign policy "toughness" by going after Paul and essentially calling him weak.

You don't remember all this from that campaign?
 
cawacko said:
There are people here who know way more about him than me but do you remember during the '08 campaign the support he got from some on the left for being fully against Iraq and Afghanistan? Even Darla was on here saying some of her Code Pink friends were looking into Paul for that reason. He's run on wanting to bring most of the U.S. soldiers in foreign countries on bases back home. During the Republican Primaries of '08 many of the Republicans, especially Guiliani tried to show their foreign policy "toughness" by going after Paul and essentially calling him weak.

You don't remember all this from that campaign?
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I definitely remember him being against the wars and gave him kudos for his stand.

Also I checked him at this site: http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ron_Paul.htm, but it was more of a cursory look than an in-depth examination.

If he actually runs, I'll pay a lot more attention to what he says.
 
christiefan915 said:
I definitely remember him being against the wars and gave him kudos for his stand.

Also I checked him at this site: http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ron_Paul.htm, but it was more of a cursory look than an in-depth examination.

If he actually runs, I'll pay a lot more attention to what he says.
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Economically he's very libertarian but we were just talking foreign policy here. He definitely fits into the get out of Afghanistan yesterday group and he would go after Obama for escalating the war there thus my comment he would be to the left of him.
 
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