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..."The poll also shows that while three in four Americans say violence against the government is never justified, 16 percent say it can be justified -- the same percentage that said as much in April. Twenty-eight percent of Republicans said such violence can be justified, compared with 11 percent of Democrats and independents..."
 
And where did the 45% get that idea?

They've been watching the news...obviously. I just watched an hour of Chris Matthews blaming Palin and every other right winger...then some guy came on with a teleprompter-assisted rant blaming everyone short of Joe Scarborough. It appears to me and most others around here that the leftwing pundits see this tragedy as an opportunity to demonize anyone on the right...especially the energizers...instead of for what it is..a tragic incident carried out by a mentally deficient person. The rhetoric is beginning to "push my hot buttons" Ed.
 
They've been watching the news...obviously. I just watched an hour of Chris Matthews blaming Palin and every other right winger...then some guy came on with a teleprompter-assisted rant blaming everyone short of Joe Scarborough. It appears to me and most others around here that the leftwing pundits see this tragedy as an opportunity to demonize anyone on the right...especially the energizers...instead of for what it is..a tragic incident carried out by a mentally deficient person. The rhetoric is beginning to "push my hot buttons" Ed.

When your "hot buttons" get pushed, what happens?
 
When your "hot buttons" get pushed, what happens?

Lol...I get angry, smoke a cigarette and vent to my wife. We have an understanding like that. :-)

We have an overabundance of Republicans in our state government right now. Congressional seats held for decades by conservative democrats were won by Palin-like Republicans. I blame that on the Pelosi-like Democrats. People here see a (D) by a candidates name and immediately think, "Pelosi" or "Obama" and don’t bother to see what they really stand for and pull the lever for the Republican. It won't be good for us. The move back toward the center in the last national election was good, IMO. I thought some bipartisanship might come from it like we had in the 80's & 90's. Not likely to happen now with one side blaming the other side right here at the start of the new session.
 
Lol...I get angry, smoke a cigarette and vent to my wife. We have an understanding like that. :-)

We have an overabundance of Republicans in our state government right now. Congressional seats held for decades by conservative democrats were won by Palin-like Republicans. I blame that on the Pelosi-like Democrats. People here see a (D) by a candidates name and immediately think, "Pelosi" or "Obama" and don’t bother to see what they really stand for and pull the lever for the Republican. It won't be good for us. The move back toward the center in the last national election was good, IMO. I thought some bipartisanship might come from it like we had in the 80's & 90's. Not likely to happen now with one side blaming the other side right here at the start of the new session.

So it wasn't due to how they voted on health care?
 
They've been watching the news...obviously. I just watched an hour of Chris Matthews blaming Palin and every other right winger...then some guy came on with a teleprompter-assisted rant blaming everyone short of Joe Scarborough. It appears to me and most others around here that the leftwing pundits see this tragedy as an opportunity to demonize anyone on the right...especially the energizers...instead of for what it is..a tragic incident carried out by a mentally deficient person. The rhetoric is beginning to "push my hot buttons" Ed.

No, I just want all the hate talk to stop, right, left and in between, there are others ways to get our point across without making the "others" bad guys. I am guilty of this myself, and have stepped back to reassess my part in this matter.

You denounce the left but what about using this as a fund raiser?
 
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No, I just want all the hate talk to stop, right, left and in between, there are others ways to get our point across without making the "others" bad guys. I am guilty of this myself, and have stepped back to reassess my part in this matter.

You denounce the left but what about using this as a fund raiser?

I agree rana, I get angry when either side so obviously goes after the other. I haven't watched any right-wing shows for years because of this. You can see above what I do when I get angry. ;) As to the fund-raising...hadn't heard of that yet.
 
You are one of the good guys! I think at times, people would love to return to the days when dueling was legal, maybe it would keep the innocent ones safe at the very least?
 
Our state reps didn't vote on health care.

Did they support those reps that did? My point is that the referendum against dems was their perceived sympathies and or votes on health care. It is tragic in that what happened was that moderate dems were peeled off and only progressives in very liberal districts are left.
 
Did they support those reps that did? My point is that the referendum against dems was their perceived sympathies and or votes on health care. It is tragic in that what happened was that moderate dems were peeled off and only progressives in very liberal districts are left.

Nag, the two guys I'm thinking of in my district didn't support it the way it came down. The thing is that most people aren't as informed as folks on this board and thus are easily swayed one way or the other.
 
So it wasn't due to how they voted on health care?

The teabaggers are going after Republicans they deem "politically unsound" too.

..."A nasty battle between factions of Legislative District 20 Republicans and fears that it could turn violent in the wake of what happened in Tucson on Saturday prompted District Chairman Anthony Miller and several others to resign.

Miller, a 43-year-old Ahwatukee Foothills resident and former campaign worker for U.S. Sen. John McCain, was re-elected to a second one-year term last month. He said constant verbal attacks after that election and Internet blog posts by some local members with Tea Party ties made him worry about his family's safety.

In an e-mail sent a few hours after Saturday's massacre in Tucson that killed six and injured 13, including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, Miller told state Republican Party Chairman Randy Pullen he was quitting: "Today my wife of 20 yrs ask (sic) me do I think that my PCs (Precinct Committee members) will shoot at our home? So with this being said I am stepping down from LD20GOP Chairman...I will make a full statement on Monday."


Pullen was in Washington, D.C. and not available for comment, an employee in his office said. State party spokesman Matt Roberts said he could not discuss details of the district's disputes but, "Anthony has been a good Republican and was really involved in LD20."

The newly-elected Dist. 20 Republican secretary, Sophia Johnson of Ahwatukee, first vice chairman Roger Dickinson of Tempe and Jeff Kolb, the former district spokesman from Ahwatukee, also quit. "This singular focus on 'getting' Anthony (Miller) was one of the main reasons I chose to resign," Kolb said in an e-mail to another party activist. Kolb confirmed the contents of the e-mail to the Republic.

District 20 includes parts of Chandler, south Tempe and Ahwatukee Foothills. Republican state Rep. Bob Robson of Chandler and Sen. John McComish of Ahwatukee said they had supported Miller as chairman and were sorry to see him go. "It's too bad," McComish said. "He didn't deserve to be hounded out of office."

A longtime Republican activist, McComish said contentious battles for local party leadership posts are nothing new, but this one appears to be more extreme, especially since there are no partisan elections in 2011 and by next year district boundaries will change.

Kolb said the Tea Party and associated conservative groups ran their slate of candidates for seven Dist. 20 leadership positions, winning three -- the treasurer's post and two vice-chairmanships. However, Miller beat challenger Thomas Morrissey for the top post after Sheriff Joe Arpaio made a personal appearance for Morrissey. Phone messages left for Morrissey were not returned.

After the election and around the December holiday season, some of Miller's detractors made an issue of the residency of Dickinson, the first vice-chairman. Dickinson, who did not return phone messages, was a supporter of Miller's and allegedly moved to a different precinct within Dist. 20 last year, making him ineligible for the leadership post. Miller said he told the critics he would handle the matter after the holidays. In the meantime, a series of accusatory e-mails was exchanged among party members. Some blasted Miller's support of McCain, called him a "McCainiac with a penchant for violating the rules" and a "McCain hack."

Members of the Ahwatukee Tea Party group did not respond to e-mails seeking comment.

Miller said when he was a member of McCain's campaign staff last year has been criticized by the more conservative party members who supported Republican opponent J.D. Hayworth. The first and only African-American to hold the party's precinct chairmanship, Miller said he has been called "McCain's boy," and during the campaign saw a critic form his hand in the shape of a gun and point it at him.

"I wasn't going to resign but decided to quit after what happened Saturday," Miller said. "I love the Republican Party but I don't want to take a bullet for anyone."

http://www.azcentral.com/community/a...#ixzz1ArVR4TM2
 
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