Praise for Obama on Education Pick

[KingCondanomation]

Obama picked a charter school supporter and a reformer who is not going to just give teachers unions what they want, so I have to give some praise for that choice:

"Barack Obama’s education secretary is a diplomatic reformer

DURING the election campaign the economy submerged most talk of education. But beneath the surface, a debate churned between the self-proclaimed reformers and the teachers’ unions. By choosing Arne Duncan, Chicago’s schools chief and one of his own basketball buddies, Barack Obama this week has managed to please both sides.

The president-elect has chosen the rare reformer unions can stomach. In Chicago Mr Duncan raised the share of students who meet or surpass state standards from 38% in 2001 to 68% last year. He has closed failing schools and reopened them with new staff. His Renaissance 2010 initiative has opened 75 new schools, including 67 charters, in some of Chicago’s bleakest areas."
http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12814718

 

[Chapdog]

hes turning out to be quite centrist. I'm liking 90% of whats transpiring thus far. Total opposite of Bush who picked almost all from his click.

 

[KingCondanomation]

hes turning out to be quite centrist. I'm liking 90% of whats transpiring thus far. Total opposite of Bush who picked almost all from his click.

He's not a centrist, his voting record is far from it, he is ACTING as a centrist and listening to advisers with the picks because he is a very professional politician. We'll see how long that keeps up, to a certain degree he has to move to the middle and abandon many of his lofty spending plans because Bush acted like a Socialist and increased government so heavily.
Bush's picks were also centrist and we paid for that because there were not many real Conservatives looking to cut or even control government spending.

 

[Chapdog]

He's not a centrist, his voting record is far from it, he is ACTING as a centrist and listening to advisers with the picks because he is a very professional politician. We'll see how long that keeps up, to a certain degree he has to move to the middle and abandon many of his lofty spending plans because Bush acted like a Socialist and increased government so heavily.
Bush's picks were also centrist and we paid for that because there were not many real Conservatives looking to cut or even control government spending.

bush ran as a compassionate conservative and presided as not compassionate at all in regards to social issues and the direct opposite of fiscally conservative.

Obama ran as a moderate and still has yet to show how he will preside.

 

[Bonestorm]

Obama picked a charter school supporter and a reformer who is not going to just give teachers unions what they want, so I have to give some praise for that choice:

"Barack Obama’s education secretary is a diplomatic reformer

DURING the election campaign the economy submerged most talk of education. But beneath the surface, a debate churned between the self-proclaimed reformers and the teachers’ unions. By choosing Arne Duncan, Chicago’s schools chief and one of his own basketball buddies, Barack Obama this week has managed to please both sides.

The president-elect has chosen the rare reformer unions can stomach. In Chicago Mr Duncan raised the share of students who meet or surpass state standards from 38% in 2001 to 68% last year. He has closed failing schools and reopened them with new staff. His Renaissance 2010 initiative has opened 75 new schools, including 67 charters, in some of Chicago’s bleakest areas."
http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12814718

This is surprising to exactly no one that was paying attention.

From the Obama education plan:

Barack Obama and Joe Biden will create an Innovative Schools Fund to
provide funds to states and school districts to implement plans to create a “portfolio” of successful public school types, including charters, nonprofit schools, Montessori schools, career academies and theme-focused schools.
Such approaches have been adopted by a number of districts across the nation, including Chicago, which has expanded not only charter schools, but also schools like the Austin Polytechnical Academy – a public high school that partners with 37 companies to support hands-on student learning in engineering and advanced manufacturing.

More:

Barack Obama and Joe Biden will double funding for the Federal Charter School Program to support the creation of more successful charter
schools, particularly in high-needs school districts where students continue to be trapped in underperforming schools. An Obama-Biden administration will provide this expanded charter school funding only to states that improve accountability for charter schools, allow for interventions in struggling charter schools and have a clear process for closing down chronically underperforming charter schools. An Obama-Biden administration will also prioritize supporting states that help the most successful charter schools to expand to serve more students.

More here:


http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/issues/education/Fact_Sheet_Education_Reform_Speech_FINAL.pdf

 

[KingCondanomation]

bush ran as a compassionate conservative and presided as not compassionate at all in regards to social issues and the direct opposite of fiscally conservative.

He was overly compassionate with social welfare, the pill bill was the biggest new social welfare initiative since the 1960's.

Obama ran as a moderate and still has yet to show how he will preside.

Sort of.
In the primaries, despite nearly identical voting records, Edwards pretended to be the populist, Obama to his credit acted like a regular liberal and Hillary pretended to be the moderate.

Once that was done, he pretended to be a moderate.
Like you said though, we'll see.

 

[KingCondanomation]

This is surprising to exactly no one that was paying attention.

From the Obama education plan:



More:



More here:


http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/issues/education/Fact_Sheet_Education_Reform_Speech_FINAL.pdf

Yeah because politicians always follow their plans...
I just judge people based on their actions, I couldn't really care what promises or plans Obama or McCain said they would do.

 

[Bonestorm]

Yeah because politicians always follow their plans...
I just judge people based on their actions, I couldn't really care what promises or plans Obama or McCain said they would do.

So Obama says in his education plan that he wants to implement some of the measures taken in Chicago and then appoints the Chicago head of schools to chair the Department of Education and you turn around and act all surprised that he did what he said he was going to do?

Weird.

You just plain like to bitch, won't take yes for an answer.



Edit: I guess it is a step to give him praise for his pick, but you should have given him praise for his plan. His pick is just following the plan.

 

[cawacko]

Obama picked a charter school supporter and a reformer who is not going to just give teachers unions what they want, so I have to give some praise for that choice:

"Barack Obama’s education secretary is a diplomatic reformer

DURING the election campaign the economy submerged most talk of education. But beneath the surface, a debate churned between the self-proclaimed reformers and the teachers’ unions. By choosing Arne Duncan, Chicago’s schools chief and one of his own basketball buddies, Barack Obama this week has managed to please both sides.

The president-elect has chosen the rare reformer unions can stomach. In Chicago Mr Duncan raised the share of students who meet or surpass state standards from 38% in 2001 to 68% last year. He has closed failing schools and reopened them with new staff. His Renaissance 2010 initiative has opened 75 new schools, including 67 charters, in some of Chicago’s bleakest areas."
http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12814718

I have a hard time believing on a federal level they will really attempt to buck the teachers union with change but I hope they do and if they do they should rightly earn much praise from those on the right.