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It’s a mainstay of conservative orthodoxy that tax cuts create jobs.

In fact, the complexity of the tax code does create jobs for high-priced tax attorneys and accountants.

But do tax cuts create “real” jobs?

The answer appears to be "no", for companies big and small.

After all, U.S. public companies pay well below the official 35% tax rate while workers search unsuccessfully for jobs.

In short, the tax cut rhetoric, while effective politics, is lousy economics.

George H. W. Bush wisely pointed out that expecting to balance the budget with tax cuts and defense spending increases was “voodoo economics.”

But along with Reagan’s ascendancy came the rise of huge budget deficits — that Bush helped end when he agreed to raise taxes in 1990.

Despite tax cuts, companies still complain that they pay too much in tax.

General Electric (GE) has become famous for paying no taxes on its profits while keeping a big staff of lawyers on hand to make sure it pays as few of them as possible.

GE is not alone, and the prevailing estimate for the actual U.S. corporate tax rate is 25% — costing the U.S. about $100 billion in lost revenue.

But corporations have absolutely no reason to complain about taxes. After all, they earned record profits and 70% are growing revenue faster than expected.

And companies are achieving that record profitability by squeezing workers.

After all, productivity rose while unit labor costs fell 1.5%.

To get more work out of the same number of workers while paying them less, it helps to have 13.5 million people out of work and the easy ability to hire part-time labor and outsource to countries that pay much lower wages.

So tax cuts have not spurred big companies to create jobs.

But what about start ups?

Not a single one of them would create a job based on tax cuts.

As Dick Cheney famously pointed out — deficits don’t matter, and his supporters are probably profiting from the weak-dollar, commodity-inflation bet.

If Washington was serious about creating new jobs, it would make companies pay the 35% rate — yielding $600 billion in tax revenue.

That would go a long way towards balancing the budget and creating a climate that would spur a boost in capital flows to new ventures.

Do tax cuts create jobs?

No, just deficits.



http://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2011/05/03/do-tax-cuts-create-jobs/
 
And this is a Forbes report!!!!! What if it had been from a main stream media source?

It will be hard for the usual suspects to factually refute, but since fact-based discussion seems to be beyond the abilities of JPP's righties, we'll see nothing but non-sequiturs and ad hominem attacks.
 
It will be hard for the usual suspects to factually refute, but since fact-based discussion seems to be beyond the abilities of JPP's righties, we'll see nothing but non-sequiturs and ad hominem attacks.

I would hope you are wrong but I suspect and expect you are correct.
 
The mainstay of conservative orthodoxy is that the PRIVATE SECTOR creates jobs. More jobs with lower taxes, fewer jobs with higher taxes.
 
The mainstay of conservative orthodoxy is that the PRIVATE SECTOR creates jobs. More jobs with lower taxes, fewer jobs with higher taxes.
Yes, unfortunately they have turned that into a religion. There are some things the private sector, the market and business are very good at. Other things.....ehhh not so much. The private sector religion is not a panacea nor is it a solution to all our problems. This is why we have a public sector and guess what? Someone has to pay for public sector services. This is why we have taxes.

The problem with the conservative orthodoxy is that if the business sector, which has most of the capital, doesn't pay taxes then the burdon of taxation is shifted from the wealthy to the middle and working classes. It then becomes an issue of fairness.

Or as us hippies like to say to you free loading wingnuts. "Ass, gas or grass! No one rides for free!".
 
The mainstay of conservative orthodoxy is that the PRIVATE SECTOR creates jobs. More jobs with lower taxes, fewer jobs with higher taxes.

Yet that is not the case, is it? Did you read the OP? Perhaps Forbes is too left for you to rely upon?
 
Yes, unfortunately they have turned that into a religion. There are some things the private sector, the market and business are very good at. Other things.....ehhh not so much. .

Yeah, but the liberals have convinced themselves that job creation is best at creating jobs.
 
Yeah, but the liberals have convinced themselves that job creation is best at creating jobs.
Job creation is best at creating jobs? WTF? Speak English man!

The hypocrisy is that Republicans talk bullshit that cutting taxes and redistributing wealth upwards creates jobs. There is no such evidence of that and I defy you to prove that to me. Republicans are flat out hostile towards those who do create wealth, the entreprenuers, the tradesmen, the professionals, those who create and produce. Republicans have bullshited themselves into actually believing that by giving more money to middlemen who do tricks with said money creates wealth. Their fucking nuts!! What they are good at thouugh is convincing ignorant hillbillies that they do create jobs.

Keep this straight, it's people who make things, who produce goods and tangible services who create wealth and jobs. The middlemen ride on their backs and could not exist with out them. Go read Atlas Shrugged!
 
In the history of the United States no large scale creation of jobs has ever happened without governmental hiring, prodding and pushing. No different now.

And then there is the real world where throughout the history of the United States, large scale creation of jobs has happened without governmental hiring, prodding and pushing. The private sector creates jobs
 
And then there is the real world where throughout the history of the United States, large scale creation of jobs has happened without governmental hiring, prodding and pushing. The private sector creates jobs

Prediction confirmed: This is too complicated for rightwing conservatives
 
Actually, its pretty simple. It only seems complicated to you.

Then you should be be able prove your contention, with supporting facts.


And then there is the real world where throughout the history of the United States, large scale creation of jobs has happened without governmental hiring, prodding and pushing. The private sector creates jobs


Or is that also too complicated for rightwing conservatives?
 
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