Public Polling Has It All Wrong (Again)

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Public Polling Has It All Wrong (Again)


If the November election was held today, public polling would drastically underestimate Trump’s performance and, to a lesser extent, the Republican Party’s as a whole.

I’m not a poll truther. On the contrary, I’m a Republican campaign consultant and pollster who has consumed thousands of pages of data. My biggest takeaway? The survey environment is plagued by a large response bias problem that low-budget public surveys refuse to fix.

The basic science behind a poll is simple: if we interview 800 Pennsylvania voters, each answer should be within three points of the whole universe 95 percent of the time. For example, if a survey of 800 Pennsylvania voters showed Trump at 48%, then his actual support could be as low as 45% or as high as 51%.

But this foundation assumes every respondent is equally likely to take a given survey, which is false. Pollsters have two tools to help them adjust for this reality.

The first is quotas. Pollsters dictate how many individuals of a certain group they want in their survey. I want X percent men and Y% women. I want X percent white people and Y% Black. Nearly every pollster uses quotas for geography, age, and race. The major debate is about setting quotas for things like education level and, most controversially, political party affiliation.

The argument in favor of quotas relies on historical voter turnout to model future turnout. Opponents of restrictive quotas argue that a poll may miss changes in group dynamics or the collapse of a particular group. This debate was less of an issue 20 years ago when everyone had landlines and response rates across all groups were fairly high. Today, with extremely low response rates, the response bias has become very pronounced.

For example, in a recent internal statewide survey in a large state, people with a graduate degree were five and half times more likely to answer the survey than those without a degree, while people with a bachelor’s degree were three times more likely.

This doesn’t take into account a fascinating response bias developing around population density. Pollsters often divide geography into urban, suburban, and rural segments by population density. In recent surveys, there has been a pronounced drop-off in rural, white, working-class responses, with some of the quotas being filled in by suburban and urban white working-class voters who are much more likely to be Democratic in orientation.

Requiring quotas on education helped to fix the polling challenges that arose in 2016 and made public polls more reliable. But Kamala Harris’s appointment to the Democratic nomination has supercharged a key group of voters that can have a big impact on polling: wealthy, educated, white Democratic voters. These voters are crawling across broken glass to respond to political surveys.

In the past, top-level quotas set for the whole survey might help to mitigate this problem but many public pollsters cannot afford to set stratification quotas for all the necessary subgroups. For example, top-level quotas will produce a survey group with 43% Democrats and 40% with a college degree, but you really need to set quotas for how many college-educated people are in the Democratic subgroup or you will not fix the response bias problem. This sort of nuanced stratification is very expensive and most public pollsters aren’t willing or able to pony up.

With Kamala Harris as the nominee, politically engaged, wealthy, educated, white voters are taking up too many spots in the Democratic quotas, pushing out downscale, lower-turnout Democrats who are much more likely to be undecided or Trump voters. Whereas a college-educated Democrat might be 95% for Harris, a non-college one might be 88%. That seven-point gap matters and is not reflected in public polling.

Don’t take just my word for it. POLITICO reported that even Democratic pollsters are admitting their internal (read expensive) surveys are much less optimistic than public polling, and they are also worried about this blue mirage.

Fixing this problem is not easy or cheap, but one possible solution is to look at vote history. Looking at prior high-turnout elections, we can estimate how much of the electorate will be made up of reliable voters who have voted in 100 percent of the last four general elections. For example, in Pennsylvania, we might expect 52 percent of the electorate to be composed of these voters, but polling samples following the Biden-Harris switcheroo show an electorate with 60 percent-plus of these high-frequency voters.

This matters because of an oddity in party and vote history. Right now, support for Harris has a slight correlation to prior vote history where high-turnout Democrats have a higher incidence rate of support for her than low-turnout Democrats. Conversely, the correlation on the GOP side for Trump support is somewhat flat if not the inverse. Very reliable and consistent voters (who tend to be more educated Republicans) are less likely to support Trump while less reliable voters are more likely.

This trend existed previously, but it was supercharged after Joe Biden dropped out and Kamala Harris assumed the Democratic mantle. The result is a blue polling mirage that is more Democratic than Election Day will be.

This brings us to the second tool pollsters use, which is weighting a survey. When you weight a survey you treat interviews unequally to make the data more representative of the expected electorate. For example, if the survey electorate contains only 40 percent of people without a college degree but you expect likely turnout at 51%, you can increase the value of the non-college responses and decrease the value of the college responses to accommodate the disparity.

While weighting can be useful on the margins, it has significant limitations because you are using a very small group to extrapolate to a larger group. The classic example of this is Black voters. African Americans tend to be underrepresented in Pennsylvania statewide surveys if quotas are not used. If you weight 50 Black interviews with a margin of error of 13.5 percent to equal 80 interviews, you end up with a lot of risk and an unreliable result.

Many public polls right now are likely oversampling highly educated Democrats, and very high likelihood to turnout voters. They are not capturing the full electorate and while this may fix itself with rising response rates throughout the fall as we approach the election, it is a real problem for the polling industry to address.

So as the fall progresses, keep an eye on the public polling because it is likely once again to significantly understate the support for President Trump and Republicans...
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The polls underestimate Trump's support in 2016 and in 2020 and they are making the same mistakes in 2024.
 
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Well, clearly - Trump supporters are nervous about the polls.
Actually just the opposite. I'm pretty confident of a win. I'm also confident Kamala won't do well in the debate next week. She has an impossible task of claiming the successes of the Harris/Biden administration while distancing herself from the failures of the Harris/Biden administration.
 
That's odd.
Until four weeks ago, all your MAGA friends placed enormous credibility on poll results, posted them here almost every day, and popped champagne corks and prematurely spiked footballs.
That is because Trump was in the lead even though polls under sample Trump Republican voters. You should read the article before you comment to avoid appearing dumb next time. ;)
 
That's odd.
Until four weeks ago, all your MAGA friends placed enormous credibility on poll results, posted them here almost every day, and popped champagne corks and prematurely spiked footballs.
As always, they're looking for any opportunity to cry victim.

The big mean old MSM just won't give them and their Stalin wannabe candy date an even break. 😡😢
 
That's odd.
Until four weeks ago, all your MAGA friends placed enormous credibility on poll results, posted them here almost every day, and popped champagne corks and prematurely spiked footballs.
of course, when the polls are in Trump's favor they are great and one of the truest things ever but when they aren't then they all become fake and unreliable.
Have a nice day
 
That's odd.
Until four weeks ago, all your MAGA friends placed enormous credibility on poll results, posted them here almost every day, and popped champagne corks and prematurely spiked footballs.
That's odd.
I haven't seen any of this, and I for one have never placed any sort of credibility on polling (in general).
 
That is because Trump was in the lead even though polls under sample Trump Republican voters. You should read the article before you comment to avoid appearing dumb next time. ;)
So you trusted polls when Trump was in the lead, but now think they are suspect because Trump fell behind.
 
I don't give a shit about the polls... never have, never will. I know that they are nothing more than DNC press releases meant to manipulate the public perception of political candidate support.

Thank you for proving my point.

 
of course, when the polls are in Trump's favor they are great and one of the truest things ever but when they aren't then they all become fake and unreliable.
Have a nice day
They weren't correct in 2016 or in 2020 both cycles under estimated Trump's support. In 2016 they had Hillary winning by a large margin and she lost. In 2020 the had Biden leading by a large margin and he "won" by less than 44,000 votes spread over 3 states.
 
Actually just the opposite. I'm pretty confident of a win. I'm also confident Kamala won't do well in the debate next week. She has an impossible task of claiming the successes of the Harris/Biden administration while distancing herself from the failures of the Harris/Biden administration.

If you were that confident, you wouldn't be trying to discredit polls.

I CANNOT WAIT for that debate. Have you heard Trump lately? He's out there claiming that some Dem states allow baby executions after birth, and talking about his "weave" style of rambling which his English professor friends think is "brilliant."

Harris is going to embarrass him at that debate.
 
Actually just the opposite. I'm pretty confident of a win. I'm also confident Kamala won't do well in the debate next week. She has an impossible task of claiming the successes of the Harris/Biden administration while distancing herself from the failures of the Harris/Biden administration.
The difficult part for her will be whenever she promises to "do something" "when she's elected" and Trump will simply retort back "ummmm, you're already IN office, and have been for nearly four years now... why haven't you helped anyone out during any of that time?"
 
The difficult part for her will be whenever she promises to "do something" "when she's elected" and Trump will simply retort back "ummmm, you're already IN office, and have been for nearly four years now... why haven't you helped anyone out during any of that time?"

And when Trump talks about all of the things he WILL do, she can look back at him and say, "why didn't you do it when you had 4 years before?"
 
What's the getting it wrong "again" part. The polls both in 2020 and 2016 mirrored the voting. Hillary lost not because her number of voters was over-estimated (she received just under 3 million more than Trump),
 
Thank you for proving my point.

You haven't proven anything. I refuse to "play make believe". I'm going to talk about situations as they actually are, whether or not it demolishes your preconceived notions about said situations.
 
What's the getting it wrong "again" part. The polls both in 2020 and 2016 mirrored the voting. Hillary lost not because her number of voters was over-estimated (she received just under 3 million more than Trump),
They did not reflect the Trump voters in Battle ground states correctly in 2016 or 2020.
 
And when Trump talks about all of the things he WILL do, she can look back at him and say, "why didn't you do it when you had 4 years before?"
Trump will talk about things he HAS done before. Harris will talk about what she WILL do on day one but day one was ~1300 days ago.
 
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