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I suspected that Putin would come to regret his decision to wait 8 years from the beginning of the war in Donbass to begin his military operation in Ukraine. That doesn't mean I think he should have acted sooner, only that it confirms what I feel was his immense frustration over the failure of the Minsk accords. Also, I think his commentary on how the 2014 violent uprisings in Ukraine was the initial catalyst for the Ukrainian civil war and now this war between Ukraine and Russia is spot on.

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November 25, 2022

Reunification with Russia should probably have happened earlier, the president told the mothers of soldiers

The Donbass republics should probably have rejoined Russia sooner, Russian President Vladimir Putin said at a meeting with the mothers of troops involved in the military operation in Ukraine on Friday. In such a case, fewer lives might have been lost, the president stressed.

“There might not have been so many casualties among civilians, there would not be so many children killed,” the Russian leader suggested. He maintained, however, that back in 2014, Russia did not have a full understanding of the situation in Donbass or of the true sentiments of the locals.

“[We] believed that we might still be able to reach an agreement and … reunify Donetsk and Lugansk with Ukraine within … the Minsk Agreements,” Putin noted, adding that Russia was “genuinely working towards that.”

Commenting on the matter further, the president blamed the 2014 coup in Kiev for the subsequent crisis in Donbass and the conflict between Russia and Ukraine. “If not for the coup d’état in Ukraine in 2014, none [of this] would have happened,” he said.

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I suspected that Putin would come to regret his decision to wait 8 years from the beginning of the war in Donbass to begin his military operation in Ukraine. That doesn't mean I think he should have acted sooner, only that it confirms what I feel was his immense frustration over the failure of the Minsk accords. Also, I think his commentary on how the 2014 violent uprisings in Ukraine was the initial catalyst for the Ukrainian civil war and now this war between Ukraine and Russia is spot on.
It all could’ve been avoided.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...s-of-the-war-in-Ukraine&p=5385988#post5385988

If Zelenskyy and Putin could both be reasonable this war could end.

What I bet he really regrets is his ill fated blitzkrieg.
Plus trying to destroy Uk’s infrastructure has only united most of the country to be fiercely anti Russian. He’s got a real mess on his hands.
 
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It all could’ve been avoided.

Agreed.


Great thread, glad you pointed it out to me :-).

If Zelenskyy and Putin could both be reasonable this war could end.

I think that Putin has been fairly reasonable. Zelensky, not so much. There was a time when Zelensky strived for peace, back before the war in Ukraine was just a civil war. The U.S. could have played a decisive role in making the Minsk accords work, but they chose another path. There's a good article on that here:

Siding With Ukraine’s Far-Right, US Sabotaged Zelensky’s Peace Mandate | Scheerpost

What I bet he really regrets is his ill fated blitzkrieg.

I assume you're talking about the early days in Putin's military operation. I'm less sure as to how much he regrets it, but I agree that he probably regrets it.

Plus trying to destroy Uk’s infrastructure has only united most of the country to be fiercely anti Russian. He’s got a real mess on his hands.

To be fair to Putin, allies of his were urging him to retaliate after Ukraine had hit the Crimean bridge:

Putin allies are pushing for swift retaliation after an explosion on a key Crimean bridge delivered another humiliation for the Russian president | Business Insider

Honestly, if he -hadn't- have retaliated strongly, I wouldn't have been surprised if his position were weakened. That doesn't mean that he should have hit Ukraine as hard as he did. He did point out that he could have hit them even harder though, which is true.
 
“[We] believed that we might still be able to reach an agreement and … reunify Donetsk and Lugansk with Ukraine within … the Minsk Agreements,” Putin noted, adding that Russia was “genuinely working towards that.”


Hardly a moment when Putin wasn’t thinking, “How can we reunify Donetsk and Lugansk with Ukraine? Or should we give in to their pleas and let them join Mother Russia?”

Eight years went by, and Ukraine had two presidential and two parliamentary elections. But Putin knew they were rigged, not like the free and fair ones they have in Russia.

Then it came to him: “I know, we’ll take Kyiv and get rid of that pesky Jew!” (he used the Ukrainian spelling to show how PC he was). “Kharkiv and Kherson too, but we’ll give those back once we’ve denazified them. That shouldn’t kill so many children.”

He had it all planned.
 
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“[We] believed that we might still be able to reach an agreement and … reunify Donetsk and Lugansk with Ukraine within … the Minsk Agreements,” Putin noted, adding that Russia was “genuinely working towards that.”

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Hardly a moment when Putin wasn’t thinking, “How can we reunify Donetsk and Lugansk with Ukraine? Or should we give in to their pleas and let them join Mother Russia?”

Eight years went by, and Ukraine had two presidential and two parliamentary elections. But Putin knew they were rigged, not like the free and fair ones they have in Russia.

Then it came to him: “I know, we’ll take Kyiv and get rid of that pesky Jew!” (he used the Ukrainian spelling to show how PC he was). “Kharkiv and Kherson too, but we’ll give those back once we’ve denazified them. That shouldn’t kill so many children.”

He had it all planned.

I'm not sure what you're trying to get across with this clearly sarcastic narrative. I -think- we can both agree that Putin didn't have the last 8 years "all planned".
 
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