Questions for people who think the Deep State hates Trump

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StoneByStone

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This is honestly one of the weirdest of all the Trumper conspiracy theories. Supposedly, the Deep State, which is an all-powerful decentralized group of super rich politicians in the government, hates Trump and wants to remove him from power. There are two major problems with this conspiracy theory.

1) If the Deep State is so powerful and hates Trump, why haven't they had him removed by now? Hillary can suicide anyone she wants, but she couldn't steal an election? The Deep State is all powerful, but they can't remove a president?

2) Trump's policies have been very good for the 1%. So why do you think they hate him? Wouldn't the super rich love Trump and anyone else pushing for right-wing elitist policies?
 
StoneByStone said:
This is honestly one of the weirdest of all the Trumper conspiracy theories. Supposedly, the Deep State, which is an all-powerful decentralized group of super rich politicians in the government, hates Trump and wants to remove him from power. There are two major problems with this conspiracy theory.

1) If the Deep State is so powerful and hates Trump, why haven't they had him removed by now? Hillary can suicide anyone she wants, but she couldn't steal an election? The Deep State is all powerful, but they can't remove a president?

2) Trump's policies have been very good for the 1%. So why do you think they hate him? Wouldn't the super rich love Trump and anyone else pushing for right-wing elitist policies?
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The deep state aren't politicians that have to stand for reelection. They are non elected bureaucrats This impeachment is a prime example. The WB is a non elected bureaucrat that worked for J. Brennan another non elected bureaucrat. The stream of bureaucrats that testified were mostly anti Trumpers and Obama left overs. They saw their chance to attempt to make sure Trump is a one term president and they are taking it. The WB is a VOCAL antitrumper that published provable lies in his complaint. Also the IG report found 17 MAJOR error by the FBI. ALL of those "errors" went one way ....against the Trump campaign. I wonder what the odds of that are. :thinking: Yes there is a deep state and they just helped impeach Trump. The also helped get him investigated for 2 years for a BOGUS Steele report.


Also the median family income has grown faster under 3 years of Trump than it in 8 years of Obama.

Trump $4,144 or 6.8 percent

Obama about $1,000

Edit : typo aren't
 
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FastLane said:
The deep state are politicians that have to stand for reelection. They are non elected bureaucrats
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So the Republicans who are standing by Trump in order to get reelected, are they part of the Deep State too?
I would say yes, because of the original definition of the term "Deep State." Seems like they would also qualify by your definition.
 
StoneByStone said:
So the Republicans who are standing by Trump in order to get reelected, are they part of the Deep State too?
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Never said that
I would say yes, because of the original definition of the term "Deep State." Seems like they would also qualify by your definition.
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Nope as I said most deep state are NON elected bureaucrats not elected politicians.
 
FastLane said:
The deep state aren't politicians that have to stand for reelection. They are non elected bureaucrats This impeachment is a prime example. The WB is a non elected bureaucrat that worked for J. Brennan another non elected bureaucrat. The stream of bureaucrats that testified were mostly anti Trumpers and Obama left overs. They saw their chance to attempt to make sure Trump is a one term president and they are taking it. The WB is a VOCAL antitrumper that published provable lies in his complaint. Also the IG report found 17 MAJOR error by the FBI. ALL of those "errors" went one way ....against the Trump campaign. I wonder what the odds of that are. :thinking: Yes there is a deep state and they just helped impeach Trump. The also helped get him investigated for 2 years for a BOGUS Steele report.


Also the median family income has grown faster under 3 years of Trump than it in 8 years of Obama.

Trump $4,144 or 6.8 percent

Obama about $1,000

Edit : typo aren't
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So you did not watch the hearings. Those who testified were long-time employees who worked through Dem, Republican and the Trump admin.
Sondland was a million dollar donor to Trump. That a deep stater to you? Sure as hell a righty. Volker worked on McCains staff and was appointed by Bush. That is a righty. Just who was lefty or deep state. I hate typing deep state. It such an insane right wing meme that makes rightys look crazier than we thought they were.
Income is starting to grow because several states passed amendments increasing the min. wage. It was fought by Trump and rightys. But they have no trouble taking credit for any good it does.
 
StoneByStone said:
This is honestly one of the weirdest of all the Trumper conspiracy theories. Supposedly, the Deep State, which is an all-powerful decentralized group of super rich politicians in the government, hates Trump and wants to remove him from power. There are two major problems with this conspiracy theory.

1) If the Deep State is so powerful and hates Trump, why haven't they had him removed by now? Hillary can suicide anyone she wants, but she couldn't steal an election? The Deep State is all powerful, but they can't remove a president?

2) Trump's policies have been very good for the 1%. So why do you think they hate him? Wouldn't the super rich love Trump and anyone else pushing for right-wing elitist policies?
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There is no "Deep State",it's a made up cliche to scare the rubes!
 
John K Jones said:
There is no "Deep State",it's a made up cliche to scare the rubes!
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Yes and no. Originally, the term "Deep State" referred to the 1% and how they control the government. In that sense, sure, I believe the Deep State exists. I don't believe in some secret Illuminati society Deep State.
 
Trump happened to come alo=ng when the wealthy finally had enough power to move elections. It is not just here but across the globe. If you think these right-wing wealth gobblers are on your side, you are retarded.
America as we know it may not survive Trump.
 
StoneByStone said:
This is honestly one of the weirdest of all the Trumper conspiracy theories. Supposedly, the Deep State, which is an all-powerful decentralized group of super rich politicians in the government, hates Trump and wants to remove him from power. There are two major problems with this conspiracy theory.

1) If the Deep State is so powerful and hates Trump, why haven't they had him removed by now? Hillary can suicide anyone she wants, but she couldn't steal an election? The Deep State is all powerful, but they can't remove a president?

2) Trump's policies have been very good for the 1%. So why do you think they hate him? Wouldn't the super rich love Trump and anyone else pushing for right-wing elitist policies?
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Who said that they were all powerful and decentralized? Our Democracy is much more powerful than they are, just not as organized.

Fact is, there is a conference call every morning by a left-wing think tank, funded by George Soros, laying out the day's narrative to certain media and Democrat operatives. It's been going on for decades and the focus used to be to "get" Fox News, because they didn't toe the line and were working to expose them. Once Trump became a threat, the focus was to "get" him.
 
Nordberg said:
So you did not watch the hearings. Those who testified were long-time employees who worked through Dem, Republican and the Trump admin.
Sondland was a million dollar donor to Trump. That a deep stater to you?
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Where did I say all the people that testified were deep stater? Yes Sondland donote a million and got an ambassadorship. That's pretty common. He was a pro Trumper until the libs began a boycott of his wife's hotels.{[witness tampering anyone} Then he changed his tune and amended his testimony only to ultimately admit he was told DIRECTLY BY TRUMP that Trump didn't want anything from Zelensky other doing the right thing. And Sondland had to admit anything else was just unfounded assumptions.


Sure as hell a righty. Volker worked on McCains staff and was appointed by Bush. That is a righty. Just who was lefty or deep state. I hate typing deep state.
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Again I never said Volker was a deep stater either so stop making stuff up. Volker's testimony basically backed up Trump.

It such an insane right wing meme that makes rightys look crazier than we thought they were.
Income is starting to grow because several states passed amendments increasing the min. wage. It was fought by Trump and rightys. But they have no trouble taking credit for any good it does.
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Now Eric C. , Vindman, and Yovanovitch are deep staters I believe. Why do you think Schiff does not want to be questioned under oath? Notice he didn't even present his own report because that would have required he be sworn in and be questioned by Republicans.
 
Dark Soul said:
Who said that they were all powerful and decentralized? Our Democracy is much more powerful than they are, just not as organized.

Fact is, there is a conference call every morning by a left-wing think tank, funded by George Soros, laying out the day's narrative to certain media and Democrat operatives. It's been going on for decades and the focus used to be to "get" Fox News, because they didn't toe the line and were working to expose them. Once Trump became a threat, the focus was to "get" him.
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Probably why they all use the same buzzwords of the day.
 
Dark Soul said:
Who said that they were all powerful and decentralized? Our Democracy is much more powerful than they are, just not as organized.

Fact is, there is a conference call every morning by a left-wing think tank, funded by George Soros, laying out the day's narrative to certain media and Democrat operatives. It's been going on for decades and the focus used to be to "get" Fox News, because they didn't toe the line and were working to expose them. Once Trump became a threat, the focus was to "get" him.
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What's the name of the think tank? Who is in on the call? Knowing the narrative, you must have transcripts of the calls.

Let's see all that from you.
 
FastLane said:
Probably why they all use the same buzzwords of the day.
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:lolup:

The irony is as thick as it gets!

Squawk! Invaders!
Squawk! Mob!
Squawk! Fake News!
Squawk! Cabal!
Squawk! Uranium One!
Squawk! MAGA!
Squawk! Witch Hunt!
Squawk! No Collusion!
Squawk! Deep State!
Squawk! Coup!
Squawk! Nothingburger!


:rofl2:
 
StoneByStone said:
So the Republicans who are standing by Trump in order to get reelected, are they part of the Deep State too?
I would say yes, because of the original definition of the term "Deep State." Seems like they would also qualify by your definition.
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The Deep State is believed to be a clandestine network entrenched inside the government, bureaucracy, intelligence agencies, and other governmental entities. The Deep State supposedly controls state policy behind the scenes, while the democratically-elected process and elected officials are merely figureheads.
 
Nordberg said:
Those who testified were long-time employees who worked through Dem, Republican and the Trump admin.
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In other words, DEEP STATE actors. ;)
 
StoneByStone said:
Yes and no. Originally, the term "Deep State" referred to the 1% and how they control the government. In that sense, sure, I believe the Deep State exists. I don't believe in some secret Illuminati society Deep State.
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No, that is not what deep state means. :rolleyes:

The Deep State is believed to be a clandestine network entrenched inside the government, bureaucracy, intelligence agencies, and other governmental entities. The Deep State supposedly controls state policy behind the scenes, while the democratically-elected process and elected officials are merely figureheads.
 
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