Reality check: Effects GOP rhetoric

Taichiliberal

Shaken, not stirred!
Okay, so you've had a full court press of the neocon noise machine to try and convince us all that the last 2 years of rabid, hysteria prompting anti-Obama/Dem controlled gov't by the GOP and it's pundits has NO negative effect on the population, and in no way can condone/promote/incite the violent actions of emotionally disturbed folk or people on the edge of extreme viewpoints.


Well, all one has to do is some honest research to see how wrong these folk are. Here's just one example: Jim Adkisson of Knoxville, TN in 2008

Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity on accused shooter's reading list Knoxville News Sentinel
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/28/church-shooting-police-find-manifesto-suspects-car/
 
Okay, so you've had a full court press of the neocon noise machine to try and convince us all that the last 2 years of rabid, hysteria prompting anti-Obama/Dem controlled gov't by the GOP and it's pundits has NO negative effect on the population, and in no way can condone/promote/incite the violent actions of emotionally disturbed folk or people on the edge of extreme viewpoints.


Well, all one has to do is some honest research to see how wrong these folk are. Here's just one example: Jim Adkisson of Knoxville, TN in 2008

Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity on accused shooter's reading list Knoxville News Sentinel
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/28/church-shooting-police-find-manifesto-suspects-car/

Chicklet, did you miss the President's speech tonight in Tuscon? Are you saying he is a liar? Are you saying he hasn't done his research? Are you saying he is part of the Right Wing now? Because what he said, completely contradicts the point you are now trying to make. He also said we shouldn't be trying to point fingers of blame, but damn if it doesn't look like that's what you are doing here... do you not listen to the President? Does his wishes not matter to you anymore? Was he wrong to call for civility in our discourse?
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Okay, so you've had a full court press of the neocon noise machine to try and convince us all that the last 2 years of rabid, hysteria prompting anti-Obama/Dem controlled gov't by the GOP and it's pundits has NO negative effect on the population, and in no way can condone/promote/incite the violent actions of emotionally disturbed folk or people on the edge of extreme viewpoints.


Well, all one has to do is some honest research to see how wrong these folk are. Here's just one example: Jim Adkisson of Knoxville, TN in 2008

Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity on accused shooter's reading list Knoxville News Sentinel
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/ju...-suspects-car/


Chicklet, did you miss the President's speech tonight in Tuscon? Are you saying he is a liar? Are you saying he hasn't done his research? Are you saying he is part of the Right Wing now? Because what he said, completely contradicts the point you are now trying to make. He also said we shouldn't be trying to point fingers of blame, but damn if it doesn't look like that's what you are doing here... do you not listen to the President? Does his wishes not matter to you anymore? Was he wrong to call for civility in our discourse?


:palm: Once again, folks, our Dixie Dunce tries to weasel passed the FACTS.
And he's trying to do it but suddenly taking heed of a man whom he's deridded and denounced time and again on these boards. To say Dixie is being disingenuous here would be a gross understatement.

I didn't create the FACTS regarding Adkisson...they are what they are, which debunks the neocon noise machine denials and mantras on the subject.

Dopes like Dixie suddenly want to sing Kumbaya with Obama after two years of spitting in his face on EVERY attempt at compromise and civil discourse.....they (the neocon politicos and pundits) do this because they DON'T want to be held accountable for the consequences of their actions. Dixie and his ilk want their legacy of lies to appear as unvarnished truth and righteousness, so pretending that their words and campaign mantras have no negative affect suits that purpose.

Obama wants to heal the rift in the nation.....well, the nuns taught me that acceptance of the TRUTH is the best healer of all. Maybe Obama can't afford to, or won't take that path initially as the President....but I will, and so will others.
 
i bet no lefty will tell touchyliberal to stfu

And pray tell us, why should anyone want to deny the FACTS and the truths those facts support?

Could it be willfully ignorant, dishonest neocon numbskulls like you, Yurtel old thing? :rolleyes:
 
Within hours of the AZ shooting, they were blaming Sarah Palin....as if to point out that Americans are much to stupid to grasp and understand well known euphemisms and the context in which they are used......

Thats the bullshit our TC the clown is trying to peddle....along with the msm of course....
Still, the majority of the folks ain't buyin' that crap....they're starting to catch on....

Yep...you can't use euphemisms in the US because the folks are stupid and will take it all literally....you know...like those pinheads Dems are gonna bring their guns to the knife fight Obama told them was coming....
You're a hoot, clown....for a dimwit anyway....
 
:palm: Once again, folks, our Dixie Dunce tries to weasel passed the FACTS.
And he's trying to do it but suddenly taking heed of a man whom he's deridded and denounced time and again on these boards. To say Dixie is being disingenuous here would be a gross understatement.

I didn't create the FACTS regarding Adkisson...they are what they are, which debunks the neocon noise machine denials and mantras on the subject.

Dopes like Dixie suddenly want to sing Kumbaya with Obama after two years of spitting in his face on EVERY attempt at compromise and civil discourse.....they (the neocon politicos and pundits) do this because they DON'T want to be held accountable for the consequences of their actions. Dixie and his ilk want their legacy of lies to appear as unvarnished truth and righteousness, so pretending that their words and campaign mantras have no negative affect suits that purpose.

Obama wants to heal the rift in the nation.....well, the nuns taught me that acceptance of the TRUTH is the best healer of all. Maybe Obama can't afford to, or won't take that path initially as the President....but I will, and so will others.

Well, you take whatever dishonest fucktarded path you want to take, Chicklet, I don't really care. If you wish to believe the heinous acts of deranged people, are caused by political discourse, that's up to you, but if and when you get around to trying to stifle discourse and debate, I will be there to fight you tooth and nail, and I don't really give a shit what names you call me for that. If you are so retarded as to believe, political speech needs to be squelched, in order to prevent these kinds of tragedies, then what you richly deserve, is to live in a country with no political freedom. How about doing us all a favor, and move to Cuba?
 
Within hours of the AZ shooting, they were blaming Sarah Palin....as if to point out that Americans are much to stupid to grasp and understand well known euphemisms and the context in which they are used......

Thats the bullshit our TC the clown is trying to peddle....along with the msm of course....
Still, the majority of the folks ain't buyin' that crap....they're starting to catch on....

Yep...you can't use euphemisms in the US because the folks are stupid and will take it all literally....you know...like those pinheads Dems are gonna bring their guns to the knife fight Obama told them was coming....
You're a hoot, clown....for a dimwit anyway....



:palm: Somebody needs to call Bravo's nearest relative and have them clue the dumb Bravo bastard in as to what the hell is going on in the real world.

LONG BEFORE the shooting, Gillford herself had made a PUBLIC address CRITICIZING PALIN for using her bullseye map to target her and her and the people she represents in Arizona in conjunction with her gunner "get 'em" imagery....Gillford stated that Palin's rhetorics were NOT responsible and needed to be checked.

After the shooting, Sheriff Dupnik pointed to the hysteria and nasty speeches/mantras as NOT being conducive to a civil society and creating an atmosphere that can set off nuts like Loughner. Dupnik was careful to state his opinion separate from the on-going investigation facts, and DID NOT name anyone in particular....the news interviewers did that.

AFTER the forementioned, the battle of words between the neocon and liberal punditry ensued.

ALL I did here was provide FACTS that intellectually impotent cowards like Bravo cannot deny. But as you can see, Bravo is just too damned dumb and stubborn to accept such. So be it.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Once again, folks, our Dixie Dunce tries to weasel passed the FACTS.
And he's trying to do it but suddenly taking heed of a man whom he's deridded and denounced time and again on these boards. To say Dixie is being disingenuous here would be a gross understatement.

I didn't create the FACTS regarding Adkisson...they are what they are, which debunks the neocon noise machine denials and mantras on the subject.

Dopes like Dixie suddenly want to sing Kumbaya with Obama after two years of spitting in his face on EVERY attempt at compromise and civil discourse.....they (the neocon politicos and pundits) do this because they DON'T want to be held accountable for the consequences of their actions. Dixie and his ilk want their legacy of lies to appear as unvarnished truth and righteousness, so pretending that their words and campaign mantras have no negative affect suits that purpose.

Obama wants to heal the rift in the nation.....well, the nuns taught me that acceptance of the TRUTH is the best healer of all. Maybe Obama can't afford to, or won't take that path initially as the President....but I will, and so will others.



Well, you take whatever dishonest fucktarded path you want to take, Chicklet, I don't really care.

As you can see folks, this Dixie Dipstick is SO dishonest and cowardly, that when faced with facts and logic that he cannnot Dixie dance around, he lashes out like a child. Dixie is too frustrated with my kicking his sorry ass that he says, "I don't really care".....yet like a dog in heat, Dixie has recently taken time and effort to respond to TWO of my post with SEVERAL of his own. :confused: Somebody call a relative of Dixie's and ask them what's up with that!


If you wish to believe the heinous acts of deranged people, are caused by political discourse, that's up to you, but if and when you get around to trying to stifle discourse and debate, I will be there to fight you tooth and nail, and I don't really give a shit what names you call me for that. If you are so retarded as to believe, political speech needs to be squelched, in order to prevent these kinds of tragedies, then what you richly deserve, is to live in a country with no political freedom. How about doing us all a favor, and move to Cuba?

Notice folks, how Dixie's diatribe AVOIDS THE FACTS PRESENTED like the plague. Dixie's doesn't dare acknowledge the FACTS, so he just shovels the BS. The neocons just can't BS their way out of this one, as Gifford herself pointed out in a video before her shooting....and I'm not just whistl'in Dixie on that one!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7046bo92a4"]YouTube - Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Talks Palin Cross Hairs[/ame]
 
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Adkisson targeted the church because of its liberal teachings and his belief that "all liberals should be killed because they were ruining the country"

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And as you can see folks, we have here a totally useless bumpkin in the form of Webbway here, who inadvertently PROVES OUT my premise on this thread.

Clowns like Web just want a platform to mock and to get attention. Well, he's got it....and now will be disposed of like the neocon toilet tissue he is.
 
:palm: Somebody needs to call Bravo's nearest relative and have them clue the dumb Bravo bastard in as to what the hell is going on in the real world.

LONG BEFORE the shooting, Gillford herself had made a PUBLIC address CRITICIZING PALIN for using her bullseye map to target her and her and the people she represents in Arizona in conjunction with her gunner "get 'em" imagery....Gillford stated that Palin's rhetorics were NOT responsible and needed to be checked.


Someone needs to clue in TC Clarabell the Pinhead, that the shooter had a problem with Giffords long before Sarah Palin ever set foot outside of Alaska....long before the rank and file citizens of the US outside Alaska know who the fuck she was...

but that fact won't deter the Clarabell the Pinhead from is self appointed job of fanning the flames of hate despite his Presidents plea for civility....
civility isn't one of this pinheads attributes....

After the shooting, Sheriff Dupnik pointed to the hysteria and nasty speeches/mantras as NOT being conducive to a civil society and creating an atmosphere that can set off nuts like Loughner. Dupnik was careful to state his opinion separate from the on-going investigation facts, and DID NOT name anyone in particular....the news interviewers did that.

AFTER the forementioned, the battle of words between the neocon and liberal punditry ensued.

After the aforementioned?(correct spelling) WTF are you babbling about?
Within hours of the shooting, Sarah Palin was getting blamed on a majority of left-wing blogs on-line and with-in a few more hours, that bullshit hit the msm and network news........and has been in the forfront eve since...thanks to pinheads like TC .


ALL I did here was provide FACTS that intellectually impotent cowards like Bravo cannot deny. But as you can see, Bravo is just too damned dumb and stubborn to accept such. So be it.

Your facts are, in reality, lies...as we now all can see...
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:palm: Somebody needs to call Bravo's nearest relative and have them clue the dumb Bravo bastard in as to what the hell is going on in the real world.

LONG BEFORE the shooting, Gillford herself had made a PUBLIC address CRITICIZING PALIN for using her bullseye map to target her and her and the people she represents in Arizona in conjunction with her gunner "get 'em" imagery....Gillford stated that Palin's rhetorics were NOT responsible and needed to be checked.

After the shooting, Sheriff Dupnik pointed to the hysteria and nasty speeches/mantras as NOT being conducive to a civil society and creating an atmosphere that can set off nuts like Loughner. Dupnik was careful to state his opinion separate from the on-going investigation facts, and DID NOT name anyone in particular....the news interviewers did that.

AFTER the forementioned, the battle of words between the neocon and liberal punditry ensued.

ALL I did here was provide FACTS that intellectually impotent cowards like Bravo cannot deny. But as you can see, Bravo is just too damned dumb and stubborn to accept such. So be it.

You forgot to mention... AFTER all of this, the President, whom you voted for and supported vigorously, called for civility in our discourse, to honor the memory of the people who died, and totally disagreed with your assertion this was caused, in any way, by the tone of our rhetoric. He specifically warned against pointing fingers of blame, as you seem to be hellbent on doing now.

I asked you a question, punk, you need to answer it. Was the president lying when he said these things, or do you just disagree with Obama's opinion? Stop obfuscating and answer the question.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Somebody needs to call Bravo's nearest relative and have them clue the dumb Bravo bastard in as to what the hell is going on in the real world.

LONG BEFORE the shooting, Gillford herself had made a PUBLIC address CRITICIZING PALIN for using her bullseye map to target her and her and the people she represents in Arizona in conjunction with her gunner "get 'em" imagery....Gillford stated that Palin's rhetorics were NOT responsible and needed to be checked.

Someone needs to clue in TC Clarabell the Pinhead, notice that the more I humilate Bravo with simple facts and logic, the longer and more childish his "insults" become that the shooter had a problem with Giffords long before Sarah Palin ever set foot outside of Alaska....long before the rank and file citizens of the US outside Alaska know who the fuck she was...

2007...ONE YEAR before Palin became the VP candidate....which DOES NOT change the FACT of Palin's rhetoric coupled with her putting Giffords on her hit list. Like it or not, my dumb bastard Bravo, Palin's vitrol was well into the social fabric, and VERY conducive to Loughner's deadly delusions.

but that fact won't deter the Clarabell the Pinhead from is self appointed job of fanning the flames of hate despite his Presidents plea for civility....
civility isn't one of this pinheads attributes....

As you can see folks, Bravo does exactly like I've previously stated......he suddenly embraces the President despite spending the last 2 years of spitting on and reviling EVERYTHING that has come from the Obama administration. Bravo does this because he and his cowardly ilk CANNOT AFFORD any logical and factual criticism of the neocon mantras to be validated. Obama let's them off the hook, for now....but that doesn't mean that the TRUTH has to be silent as well.

After the shooting, Sheriff Dupnik pointed to the hysteria and nasty speeches/mantras as NOT being conducive to a civil society and creating an atmosphere that can set off nuts like Loughner. Dupnik was careful to state his opinion separate from the on-going investigation facts, and DID NOT name anyone in particular....the news interviewers did that.

AFTER the forementioned, the battle of words between the neocon and liberal punditry ensued.

After the aforementioned?(correct spelling) WTF are you babbling about?
Within hours of the shooting, Sarah Palin was getting blamed on a majority of left-wing blogs on-line and with-in a few more hours, that bullshit hit the msm and network news........and has been in the forfront eve since...thanks to pinheads like TC .


:palm: Once again, Bravo displays the insipid stubbornes of the willfully ignorant neocon parrot. As I previously DOCUMENTED, Giffords was the first to point to Palin's rhetoric as NOT conducive to civil discourse and potentially dangerous. And I DEFY BRAVO TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT SHERIFF DUPNIK WAS NOT THE PERSON WHO FIRST POINTED THE FINGER AT RIGHT WING RHETORIC in the media.

ALL I did here was provide FACTS that intellectually impotent cowards like Bravo cannot deny. But as you can see, Bravo is just too damned dumb and stubborn to accept such. So be it.
Your facts are, in reality, lies...as we now all can see...

:palm: Only Bravo would call documented, valid FACTS lies (I'll put both up again) Bravo denial borders on psychosis:


Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity on accused shooter's reading list
By Hayes Hickman, Don Jacobs
Updated Monday, July 28, 2008


http://m.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/28/church-shooting-police-find-manifesto-suspects-car/



[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7046bo92a4"]YouTube - Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Talks Palin Cross Hairs[/ame]
 
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