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Economy best in four years
Despite hit from housing and credit markets, economy grew at 4.9% rate in third quarter, matching forecasts.

By Chris Isidore, CNNMoney.com senior writer
November 29 2007: 8:39 AM EST

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The nation's economy had its best gains in four years this summer and early fall, according to the government's latest reading released Thursday, as the problems in the credit and housing markets during the period couldn't derail growth elsewhere.

The gross domestic product, the broad measure of the nation's economic activity, grew at an annual rate of 4.9 percent in the three months ending Sept. 30. That's up from the 3.9 percent growth rate in the government's initial estimate for the period released a month earlier, as the revision matched the consensus forecast of economists surveyed by Briefing.com.

The downturn in housing shaved 1.03 percentage points off growth in the latest reading, while a slump in the auto sector also trimmed growth by 0.16 percentage point. Both estimates are close to the original readings. But new readings that showed stronger exports, spending by individuals and growth of business inventory lead to the large upward revision.

The growth was the best rate since the same period of 2003, and is the second best performance since early 2000, at the tail end of the 1990's technology boom. But most forecasts are for the economy to grow at a much slower pace in the last three months of this year, as well as in 2008. Last week the Federal Reserve revised its forecast for 2008 growth down to 1.8 to 2.5 percent from its previous estimate of a 2.5 to 2.75 percent gain.

That gloomier outlook going forward has economists and investors looking for the central bank to cut interest rates once again on Dec. 11, which would be its third consecutive cut.

The GDP report included some key inflation readings known as the price deflator, which measures all prices paid in the quarter, and the core PCE deflator, which measures prices paid by consumers, excluding volatile food and energy items.

The overall deflator posted a 0.9 percent annual increase, a slight uptick from the previous reading of a 0.8 percent gain. But the core PCE deflator again showed a 1.8 percent increase on an annual basis, unchanged from the earlier estimates.

Fed policymakers generally are seen wanting to see a core PCE increase of between 1 and 2 percent for inflation, so this latest reading would appear to be in their so-called "comfort zone.
 
Umm about 3.6% of that 4.9% gain was due to an export surge due to the weak dollar. Not a thing to really brag about.
 
Economy best in four years
Despite hit from housing and credit markets, economy grew at 4.9% rate in third quarter, matching forecasts.

By Chris Isidore, CNNMoney.com senior writer
November 29 2007: 8:39 AM EST

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The nation's economy had its best gains in four years this summer and early fall, according to the government's latest reading released Thursday, as the problems in the credit and housing markets during the period couldn't derail growth elsewhere.

The gross domestic product, the broad measure of the nation's economic activity, grew at an annual rate of 4.9 percent in the three months ending Sept. 30. That's up from the 3.9 percent growth rate in the government's initial estimate for the period released a month earlier, as the revision matched the consensus forecast of economists surveyed by Briefing.com.

The downturn in housing shaved 1.03 percentage points off growth in the latest reading, while a slump in the auto sector also trimmed growth by 0.16 percentage point. Both estimates are close to the original readings. But new readings that showed stronger exports, spending by individuals and growth of business inventory lead to the large upward revision.

The growth was the best rate since the same period of 2003, and is the second best performance since early 2000, at the tail end of the 1990's technology boom. But most forecasts are for the economy to grow at a much slower pace in the last three months of this year, as well as in 2008. Last week the Federal Reserve revised its forecast for 2008 growth down to 1.8 to 2.5 percent from its previous estimate of a 2.5 to 2.75 percent gain.

That gloomier outlook going forward has economists and investors looking for the central bank to cut interest rates once again on Dec. 11, which would be its third consecutive cut.

The GDP report included some key inflation readings known as the price deflator, which measures all prices paid in the quarter, and the core PCE deflator, which measures prices paid by consumers, excluding volatile food and energy items.

The overall deflator posted a 0.9 percent annual increase, a slight uptick from the previous reading of a 0.8 percent gain. But the core PCE deflator again showed a 1.8 percent increase on an annual basis, unchanged from the earlier estimates.

Fed policymakers generally are seen wanting to see a core PCE increase of between 1 and 2 percent for inflation, so this latest reading would appear to be in their so-called "comfort zone.

How many times must this be said....

The surge in exports due to a very weak dollar led to this GDP growth. It is short term in nature and most certainly does not reflect the overall economy. The recession that I have mentioned can be avoided IF the appropriate actions are taken. But if we see typical action from the Fed and no changes in the mortgage situation, we are going into a recession.

This has nothing to do with "creating fear" blah blah blah. It has to do with economics.
 
"The GDP report included some key inflation readings known as the price deflator, which measures all prices paid in the quarter, and the core PCE deflator, which measures prices paid by consumers, excluding volatile food and energy items."

Hmmmm.... gee golly I wonder what the number would look like had they included the increases in costs of food and energy.... which as we all know have skyrocketed over the past couple of years. Please note, I am not suggesting that food and energy are over-priced, just that they are not being accurately reflected when people talk about the growth in the economy.
 
what morons, we have a global economy Duhh!!!!
If I make 10% return I do not care if more than 50% is from international businesses.
The same gay (not in a sexual way) crybabies whine about too many imports. Now exports are way up and more spineless whinning. LOFL
GDP is GDP morons
 
what morons, we have a global economy Duhh!!!!
If I make 10% return I do not care if more than 50% is from international businesses.
The same gay (not in a sexual way) crybabies whine about too many imports. Now exports are way up and more spineless whinning. LOFL
GDP is GDP morons

Are you calling SF gay?
 
Umm import prices are up as a result of the dropping dollar. And we do have a trade defecit, so what is the inevitable result a net gain or net loss ?

Butt then I am not a CPA....
 
oncelor, you may not have used the word prediction but you certainly called for a shitty economy which has yet to materialize.
 
Umm import prices are up as a result of the dropping dollar. And we do have a trade defecit, so what is the inevitable result a net gain or net loss ?

Butt then I am not a CPA....


in terms of our trade deficit it helps
in terms of attracting more business to America it helps
in terms of cost of foreign goods like oil and traveling it hurts
in terms of cost of the currency war it hurts
 
oncelor, you may not have used the word prediction but you certainly called for a shitty economy which has yet to materialize.

Me & everyone else, including the article that Chap posted.

You guys have a hard time with a thing called 'the future.'
 
right you and most posters have been wrong oncelor
4% in the third qtr is really good, Just like two january's ago 5.6% I said was really good and you and ck we're saying mid year that wasn't true.
If you want to argue the economy's bad, it's good to have a freaking clue what GDP growth is and has been.
 
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