Red states, as a group, are falling behind blue states on a broad range of economic

[Guno צְבִי]

And social outcomes—including economic productivity, family income, life expectancy, and “deaths of despair” from the opioid crisis and alcoholism.


But the big story remains that blue states are benefiting more as the nation transitions into a high-productivity, 21st-century information economy, and red states (apart from their major metropolitan centers participating in that economy) are suffering as the powerhouse industries of the 20th century—agriculture, manufacturing, and fossil-fuel extraction—decline.

The gross domestic product per person and the median household income are now both more than 25 percent greater in the blue section than in the red, according to Podhorzer’s calculations. The share of kids in poverty is more than 20 percent lower in the blue section than red, and the share of working households with incomes below the poverty line is nearly 40 percent lower. Health outcomes are diverging too. Gun deaths are almost twice as high per capita in the red places as in the blue, as is the maternal mortality rate.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-growing-michael-podhorzer-newsletter/661377/

 

[Guno צְבִי]

With some complex but telling statistical calculations, he documents a return to historical patterns from the Jim Crow era in which the dominant party (segregationist Democrats then, conservative Republicans now) has skewed the playing field to achieve a level of political dominance in the red nation far beyond its level of popular support. Undergirding that advantage, he argues, are laws that make registering or voting in many of the red states more difficult, and severe gerrymanders that have allowed Republicans to virtually lock in indefinite control of many state legislatures. Grumbach reached a similar conclusion in a recent paper analyzing trends in small-d democracy across the states. “It’s a really stacked deck in these states because of this democratic backsliding,” Grumbach said.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello guno,

And social outcomes—including economic productivity, family income, life expectancy, and “deaths of despair” from the opioid crisis and alcoholism.


But the big story remains that blue states are benefiting more as the nation transitions into a high-productivity, 21st-century information economy, and red states (apart from their major metropolitan centers participating in that economy) are suffering as the powerhouse industries of the 20th century—agriculture, manufacturing, and fossil-fuel extraction—decline.

The gross domestic product per person and the median household income are now both more than 25 percent greater in the blue section than in the red, according to Podhorzer’s calculations. The share of kids in poverty is more than 20 percent lower in the blue section than red, and the share of working households with incomes below the poverty line is nearly 40 percent lower. Health outcomes are diverging too. Gun deaths are almost twice as high per capita in the red places as in the blue, as is the maternal mortality rate.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-growing-michael-podhorzer-newsletter/661377/

Family farms are pretty much a thing of the past. Big agri-business corporations have taken over. Same amount of land for growing food, as automated and poison-friendly as can be, produces the nation's food needs as it generates fewer paychecks than in the past.

No wonder rural people from farming families of the past want to make America 'great again.' If they don't own the business, they are not making much money. Oh, they might be working real hard, but not getting anywhere, perhaps selling off more and more of the family land just to make ends meet. That's not sustainable. It's gotta hurt. Of course, they might get paid a pittance to work the land they once owned. Yes, they are angry.

The only problem is they are blaming the wrong people for their problems. If they think liberals have done that to them, they are sadly mistaken. They need to look at big capital and Wall Street, the same people who fund the Republican propaganda machine.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Businesses and wealthy individuals fleeing high-tax blue states will become a stampede

https://www.washingtontimes.com/new... clear to everyone but blue state governments.

America’s Mass Migration Intensifies As ‘Leftugees’ Flee Blue States And Counties For Red

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisd...-states-and-counties-for-red/?sh=1753f5f03146

Mass Exodus: 4 Top Reasons Why People and Businesses Are Fleeing Blue/Socialist States

https://www.craighuey.com/mass-exodus/

Over a Million Americans Have Fled Blue States Due to High Rates of Crime, Taxes and Economic Regulation

https://noqreport.com/2022/01/17/ov...rates-of-crime-taxes-and-economic-regulation/

Democrat Policies Have Created a Blue-State Exodus
Turns out Americans aren’t huge fans of strict lockdowns, high taxes, and rising crime.

https://spectator.org/blue-state-exodus-democrat-policies-covid/

The blue-state exodus gains momentum

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/477754-the-blue-state-exodus-gains-momentum/

 

[Lightbringer]

And social outcomes—including economic productivity, family income, life expectancy, and “deaths of despair” from the opioid crisis and alcoholism.


But the big story remains that blue states are benefiting more as the nation transitions into a high-productivity, 21st-century information economy, and red states (apart from their major metropolitan centers participating in that economy) are suffering as the powerhouse industries of the 20th century—agriculture, manufacturing, and fossil-fuel extraction—decline.

The gross domestic product per person and the median household income are now both more than 25 percent greater in the blue section than in the red, according to Podhorzer’s calculations. The share of kids in poverty is more than 20 percent lower in the blue section than red, and the share of working households with incomes below the poverty line is nearly 40 percent lower. Health outcomes are diverging too. Gun deaths are almost twice as high per capita in the red places as in the blue, as is the maternal mortality rate.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-growing-michael-podhorzer-newsletter/661377/

I saw no proof of any of these statements in your Atlantic article.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

just heard on the news that over a million people have shifted party registration from Dem to Rep in the last year.......

 

[T. A. Gardner]

just heard on the news that over a million people have shifted party registration from Dem to Rep in the last year.......

Yep, and most are people that live in the 'burbs. Interestingly, the Leftists here say those exact same people will suddenly be pissed about the abortion issue... Yea, sure...

More than 1 million voters switch to GOP in warning for Dems

https://apnews.com/article/2022-mid...presidential-e50db07385831e67f866ec45402be8b9

 

[Flash]

And social outcomes—including economic productivity, family income, life expectancy, and “deaths of despair” from the opioid crisis and alcoholism.

But the big story remains that blue states are benefiting more as the nation transitions into a high-productivity, 21st-century information economy, and red states (apart from their major metropolitan centers participating in that economy) are suffering as the powerhouse industries of the 20th century—agriculture, manufacturing, and fossil-fuel extraction—decline.

The gross domestic product per person and the median household income are now both more than 25 percent greater in the blue section than in the red, according to Podhorzer’s calculations. The share of kids in poverty is more than 20 percent lower in the blue section than red, and the share of working households with incomes below the poverty line is nearly 40 percent lower. Health outcomes are diverging too. Gun deaths are almost twice as high per capita in the red places as in the blue, as is the maternal mortality rate.

Too much wealth inequality. We need to redistribute some of that income from blue to red states.

 

[cawacko]

The article touches on it briefly, but not so specifically, and that’s how blue state Boomers absolutely fvxk blue state millennials and Gen Zers with their housing policies. There’s a reason we see either repopulation decline or slowing in blue states and growth in red states and that’s affordability.

Not sure how ideal a national model based on California with the most wealth and highest poverty and the those left in the middle struggling.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Yep, and most are people that live in the 'burbs. Interestingly, the Leftists here say those exact same people will suddenly be pissed about the abortion issue... Yea, sure...


https://apnews.com/article/2022-mid...presidential-e50db07385831e67f866ec45402be8b9

if they were pissed about that you would think it would have shown up seven weeks ago when everyone found out it was going to happen.........

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Too much wealth inequality. We need to redistribute some of that income from blue to red states.

Well, that's in progress as all the corporations and people with money flee the blue states for red ones...

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Here's the newest large corporate project in Phoenix--one that the company didn't even consider putting in a blue state:

That's the nearly 5,000 acre mile + on a side, Taiwan Semiconductor plant in North Phoenix being built at a cost of about $12 billion. It'll employ thousands and thousands more will be working in businesses nearby that support the plant. Phoenix and Arizona are the new, true, "Silicon Valley." The only silicon left in the California one is in the laptops and computers made with chips from Arizona, Texas, and elsewhere the code monkeys use.

That's why you have Google employees sleeping in their cars. Their pittance of a paycheck doesn't come close to allowing them to buy a house or rent an apartment in Cali...

 

[Hawkeye10]

Well, that's in progress as all the corporations and people with money flee the blue states for red ones...

The money and the power will mostly remain in the blue areas, and the red areas will continue to be strangled. I dont know if this is true but I recently heard an expert on a podcast say that about 85% of the wealth of America is in blue counties, and that this has resulted from a long planned effort, and that it only happened because Conservatives have been asleep.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Here's the newest large corporate project in Phoenix--one that the company didn't even consider putting in a blue state:

That's the nearly 5,000 acre mile + on a side, Taiwan Semiconductor plant in North Phoenix being built at a cost of about $12 billion. It'll employ thousands and thousands more will be working in businesses nearby that support the plant. Phoenix and Arizona are the new, true, "Silicon Valley." The only silicon left in the California one is in the laptops and computers made with chips from Arizona, Texas, and elsewhere the code monkeys use.

That's why you have Google employees sleeping in their cars. Their pittance of a paycheck doesn't come close to allowing them to buy a house or rent an apartment in Cali...

Maricopa County is D majority and the mayor is Ivy indoctrinated.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Maricopa County is D majority and the mayor is Ivy indoctrinated.

Arizona is sufficiently non-Democrat (Independent / no party preference is the largest voting bloc followed by Republicans), that even when a Democrat gets elected they know they can't institute Progressive anything if they want to stay in office. That's why Kristen Sinema for example shifted solidly to the Center as a Senator. She stood ZERO chance of election / reelection as a Progressive Leftist.
Mark Kelly is trying damn hard to paint himself as not a Democrat because he knows come November he's likely to get kicked out of office.

 

[Lightbringer]

And social outcomes—including economic productivity, family income, life expectancy, and “deaths of despair” from the opioid crisis and alcoholism.


But the big story remains that blue states are benefiting more as the nation transitions into a high-productivity, 21st-century information economy, and red states (apart from their major metropolitan centers participating in that economy) are suffering as the powerhouse industries of the 20th century—agriculture, manufacturing, and fossil-fuel extraction—decline.

The gross domestic product per person and the median household income are now both more than 25 percent greater in the blue section than in the red, according to Podhorzer’s calculations. The share of kids in poverty is more than 20 percent lower in the blue section than red, and the share of working households with incomes below the poverty line is nearly 40 percent lower. Health outcomes are diverging too. Gun deaths are almost twice as high per capita in the red places as in the blue, as is the maternal mortality rate.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-growing-michael-podhorzer-newsletter/661377/

Which states are growing right now jewbot?

 

[signalmankenneth]

And social outcomes—including economic productivity, family income, life expectancy, and “deaths of despair” from the opioid crisis and alcoholism.


But the big story remains that blue states are benefiting more as the nation transitions into a high-productivity, 21st-century information economy, and red states (apart from their major metropolitan centers participating in that economy) are suffering as the powerhouse industries of the 20th century—agriculture, manufacturing, and fossil-fuel extraction—decline.

The gross domestic product per person and the median household income are now both more than 25 percent greater in the blue section than in the red, according to Podhorzer’s calculations. The share of kids in poverty is more than 20 percent lower in the blue section than red, and the share of working households with incomes below the poverty line is nearly 40 percent lower. Health outcomes are diverging too. Gun deaths are almost twice as high per capita in the red places as in the blue, as is the maternal mortality rate.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-growing-michael-podhorzer-newsletter/661377/

The red states are far behind in education too, knowledge is power?!!

 

[Stringfellow Hawk]

And social outcomes—including economic productivity, family income, life expectancy, and “deaths of despair” from the opioid crisis and alcoholism.


But the big story remains that blue states are benefiting more as the nation transitions into a high-productivity, 21st-century information economy, and red states (apart from their major metropolitan centers participating in that economy) are suffering as the powerhouse industries of the 20th century—agriculture, manufacturing, and fossil-fuel extraction—decline.

The gross domestic product per person and the median household income are now both more than 25 percent greater in the blue section than in the red, according to Podhorzer’s calculations. The share of kids in poverty is more than 20 percent lower in the blue section than red, and the share of working households with incomes below the poverty line is nearly 40 percent lower. Health outcomes are diverging too. Gun deaths are almost twice as high per capita in the red places as in the blue, as is the maternal mortality rate.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-growing-michael-podhorzer-newsletter/661377/

One needs a much larger income to live in a blue state due to higher taxes, cost of living, and ridiculous inflated costs outside of what we are seeing now, not story here

 

[Sawyerloggingon]

And social outcomes—including economic productivity, family income, life expectancy, and “deaths of despair” from the opioid crisis and alcoholism.


But the big story remains that blue states are benefiting more as the nation transitions into a high-productivity, 21st-century information economy, and red states (apart from their major metropolitan centers participating in that economy) are suffering as the powerhouse industries of the 20th century—agriculture, manufacturing, and fossil-fuel extraction—decline.

The gross domestic product per person and the median household income are now both more than 25 percent greater in the blue section than in the red, according to Podhorzer’s calculations. The share of kids in poverty is more than 20 percent lower in the blue section than red, and the share of working households with incomes below the poverty line is nearly 40 percent lower. Health outcomes are diverging too. Gun deaths are almost twice as high per capita in the red places as in the blue, as is the maternal mortality rate.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-growing-michael-podhorzer-newsletter/661377/

California, the house Republicans built that democrats are burning down.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Red states shouldn't be part of the United States.
It's time to let the Confederacy go their separate way.
They're a drag on the Blue states.