Revenge as a legitimate right of Russia

Alik Bahshi

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Alik Bahshi


Revenge as a legitimate right of Russia


As is known, Russia lost many territories as a result of the collapse of the USSR, which, according to Putin, is equivalent to the 'biggest geopolitical catastrophe of the century' . The Russian people, who for centuries created a state on their original territory and defended it from numerous enemies, found themselves morally disadvantaged. Putin's remark is absolutely correct that after this catastrophe, a large number of Russians now live abroad and, moreover, in artificially created states, are subjected to unheard-of discrimination, reaching the point that they are forced to learn the language of the so-called indigenous peoples, who came from nowhere.


Putin's legitimate desire to restore historical justice (1,2) has caused anger and indignation among the Western elite, who have long dreamed of seizing the wealth of the Russian people, and today, when thanks to Putin Russia has begun to rise from its knees, the enemies deliberately call it revanchism in order to provoke negative emotions among ordinary people. In their opinion, the 'revanchist' Putin is violating the established world order, while simultaneously ignoring the fact that the artificially created disintegration of Russia is a violation of that very world order. They receive any legitimate right of Russia, such as returning lost territories or laying gas pipelines in international waters, with hostility, while they themselves are illegally trying to lay a trans-Caspian gas pipeline (3) along the bottom of the Caspian Sea, which has historically always been an internal sea of Russia.


I think that Russia should immediately appeal to the International Court of Justice in the Hague in this regard in order to punish Ukraine for the illegal occupation of the original Russian land, namely Kievan Rus, from which the Russian state began, and also make claims against Iran, which should answer for the fact that the Scythians (an Iranian-speaking people) illegally lived for a long historical period on the territory that became Rus several centuries later. True, after the Tatars destroyed Kyiv, and Kievan Rus ceased to exist as a state, the Ruriks from the Scandinavian tribe of Rusa again founded their Russian state of Muscovy.


Thus, Kievan Rus and Muscovy are two completely different Russian states - Russian because they belonged to the Rurik Rus, but that is another story. By the way, the population of these countries historically had the status of kholops (slaves) of the Rurik Rus, since then in Russia the adjective 'Russian' has been preserved in the definition. Taking advantage of this circumstance, Putin quite rightly considers Ukrainians and Russians, as former serfs of the Ruriks, to be one people and gives him a legal justification for returning Ukrainians to Russia.


1. National interests of Russia. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/35700.html
2. Back to the empire, or restoration of historical justice according to Putin. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/22792.html
3. Trans-Caspian gas pipeline or the Third World War. https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/18362.html


01.06.19
 
That the Russians ended up being one of the last defenders of Western values is pretty much the biggest mind fuck of this life.
 
Putin loves to speak of ancient history and his belief that Ukraine is not a legit State. In fact, history says the opposite.

What would eventually become any of the following forms of the Russian federation or State was born out Kyivan Rus slavic State with Kyiv ruling.

So if Putin wants to unite, the easy answer is he should have submitted Russia below Ukraine and Kyiv and allowed Ukraine to rule the reunited country.
 
Putin loves to speak of ancient history and his belief that Ukraine is not a legit State. In fact, history says the opposite.

What would eventually become any of the following forms of the Russian federation or State was born out Kyivan Rus slavic State with Kyiv ruling.

So if Putin wants to unite, the easy answer is he should have submitted Russia below Ukraine and Kyiv and allowed Ukraine to rule the reunited country.
Ukraine should have kept its nuclear weapons.
 
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Ukraine should have kept its nuclear weapons.
And every single country that has the ability to build a nuke, who historically have not due to believing the alliances meant they did not need them, now needs to build nukes.

it is a direct consequence of Trump betraying alliances and showing that when an aggressor attacks a weaker county the only thing Trump considers with regards who has to pay and surrender is the amount of 'Cards' they have.

The best way to ensure you have 'cards' and thus then the US and Trump will say both parties need to offer real concessions is to get your own nukes.

sad that Trump may trigger a new nuclear arms race but any country who can and chooses not to, in Trump reality is foolish, imo.
 
Ukraine should have kept its nuclear weapons.
To rightys, removing weapons is a sign of weakness and makes them vulnerable. Ukraine was committing the crime of self-governance. They were becoming more like the West. They were trading with the Europeans and Americans, enriching their country. Russia's model shows generations of poverty with despotic leadership. Who would want to adopt that?
 
To rightys, removing weapons is a sign of weakness and makes them vulnerable. Ukraine was committing the crime of self-governance. They were becoming more like the West. They were trading with the Europeans and Americans, enriching their country. Russia's model shows generations of poverty with despotic leadership. Who would want to adopt that?
One of the biggest reasons Putin was triggered to invade was because Ukraine's reforms, post pushing out Putin's Oligarch control were working and the countries GDP was on a significant and constant upward slope.

It was at the point that ex Pat Ukrainians and even wealthy Russians were buying up investment properties in Kiev and Odessa and elsewhere and foreign investors and Funds were also doing so.

Meanwhile Russia was lagging, as always, As Putin and his oligarchs rob Russia of wealth instead of investing in growth.

This was a growing eye soar for Putin as so many Russian citizens have friends and family or vacation in Ukraine and could SEE the improvements and growth, leading to the question of 'why is Ukraine soaring while Russia stagnates?'

That answer would be clear to most. 'They kicked out Putin's oligarchs'.
 
One of the biggest reasons Putin was triggered to invade was because Ukraine's reforms, post pushing out Putin's Oligarch control were working and the countries GDP was on a significant and constant upward slope.

It was at the point that ex Pat Ukrainians and even wealthy Russians were buying up investment properties in Kiev and Odessa and elsewhere and foreign investors and Funds were also doing so.

Meanwhile Russia was lagging, as always, As Putin and his oligarchs rob Russia of wealth instead of investing in growth.

This was a growing eye soar for Putin as so many Russian citizens have friends and family or vacation in Ukraine and could SEE the improvements and growth, leading to the question of 'why is Ukraine soaring while Russia stagnates?'

That answer would be clear to most. 'They kicked out Putin's oligarchs'.
This war has set Russia back. I wonder if Russians are waking up to the facts, yet? Or are they all like the MAGAts? Living in fear?
 
This war has set Russia back. I wonder if Russians are waking up to the facts, yet? Or are they all like the MAGAts? Living in fear?
Many peaceful Russians fled when they saw Putin was attacking a peaceful neighbor. They wanted no part of killing innocent civilians and destroying a neighbor's infrastructure. Putin has state TV and control over all the information. So Russian people are being swept along with Putin's lies.
 

Brian Berletic

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NATO is guilty of the worst crimes against humanity of the 21st century - and has been constantly expanding up to and along Russia's borders for decades.To pretend Russia reacting to NATO - the central threat to global peace and stability, guilty of multiple wars of aggression far beyond the borders of its member states - is somehow a threat to the "fate of democracy in Europe" is delusional at best, deliberately dishonest at worst.More so when you consider the undemocratic nature of how NATO has been forced onto Europe by the US and the heavy price Europeans have been coerced by Washington to pay for it and the wars of aggression the US uses it to wage.Roth has spent his life selling lies and propaganda to advance US foreign policy including the coercion and exploitation of America's supposed allies and interference, proxy war and actual war against US enemies.For a man who headed an org called "Human Rights Watch" he and people like him have the blood of millions on their hands.
 
Many peaceful Russians fled when they saw Putin was attacking a peaceful neighbor. They wanted no part of killing innocent civilians and destroying a neighbor's infrastructure. Putin has state TV and control over all the information. So Russian people are being swept along with Putin's lies.
Fantasy....except that some did leave Russia at the start of the SMO.....most of them came back because they figured out that Russia is on the side of good here.
 
Many peaceful Russians fled when they saw Putin was attacking a peaceful neighbor. They wanted no part of killing innocent civilians and destroying a neighbor's infrastructure. Putin has state TV and control over all the information. So Russian people are being swept along with Putin's lies.
Unfortunately, Russians not only succumb to lying propaganda, they welcome it because it fits their imperial worldview. Moreover, Russians have become accustomed to lies since the USSR existed. Today, Putin has raised the bar of lies to an even higher level.
 
Unfortunately, Russians not only succumb to lying propaganda, they welcome it because it fits their imperial worldview. Moreover, Russians have become accustomed to lies since the USSR existed. Today, Putin has raised the bar of lies to an even higher level.
Its the failing Imperial Empire that lies constantly....the Russians are building a brand on the back of telling the truth, being civilized.
 
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