Riddle me this?

Joe

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I'm listening to NPR running an errand this morning and they had an "expert" from some NGO on there talking about the upcoming mass deportation.

So his logic is that even red states like Iowa won't want to decimate their work force for the meat packing industry so we shouldn't be too worried.

As a business owner when I hire someone I need a social security number and have to file this pesky form called an i9. This is required of me by law under threat of armed men coming and closing my business and raiding my bank. This is not new but long standing policy.

So what in the frosty fuck goes on at these meat packing plants where they are able to have an army of undocumented workers there? Is the IRS and State government just overlooking it? How are they paid? How do the business' file quarterly reports? Annual payroll reports?

Simple logic tells you laws are being broken massively more so by the employers than the illegals. Who can blame the illegals if the government is just turning a blind eye. If you think there isn't a problem then please explain the nuts and bolts of this to me. Of course it all makes sense if you're going to throw the borders wide open that you also will do zero real enforcement at any level. The grift on this one is unbelievably large with roots deep in the Federal gov.

In case anyone is wondering. Trump knows this and this is exactly what he's going to clean up. Again it will be painful when meat prices go up because packing plants are forced to comply with employment and labor laws. And of course this will affect the entire food supply. As long as I understand prices are going up because we're cleaning up corruption and not because we're printing money to hand out I personally can live with it. Hopefully the reduced regulations on energy will offset it some but hard times are coming folks but it's a needed fix.
 
Every plan trump has involves raising prices by double digits, quickly, which is how we get double digit inflation. Inflation is self perpetuating, so it is how we get permanent double digit inflation. trump has promised to rebuild the Fed from scratch, so they no longer fight inflation, so there is nothing that will stop that double digit inflation.

Just saying.
 
Every plan trump has involves raising prices by double digits, quickly, which is how we get double digit inflation. Inflation is self perpetuating, so it is how we get permanent double digit inflation. trump has promised to rebuild the Fed from scratch, so they no longer fight inflation, so there is nothing that will stop that double digit inflation.

Just saying.
Walter what the fuck does any of this have to do with the question of this thread? You are on an unhinged rant. Stop it's over sport.
 
Walter what the fuck does any of this have to do with the question of this thread? You are on an unhinged rant. Stop it's over sport.
You admit we are going to get inflation out of trump's policies, that is going to be a real problem.

I understand prices are going up

I just like Biden's idea of controlling agricultural workers while we develop automation to replace them. This sending the army in to disrupt agriculture idea of trump's seems a little crazy.
 
We can expect a lot of this fleeing the topic of inflation by Republicans for the next four years. After the sane people got inflation under control, Republicans are going to blow it up again... And demand we are not allowed to talk about it anymore.
 
You admit we are going to get inflation out of trump's policies, that is going to be a real problem.



I just like Biden's idea of controlling agricultural workers while we develop automation to replace them. This sending the army in to disrupt agriculture idea of trump's seems a little crazy.
Either you have laws or you don't.

Why should I have to pay out the ass and follow the letter of the law while other industries because they can employ illegals to do the job get a waiver?

We can expect a lot of this fleeing the topic of inflation by Republicans for the next four years. After the sane people got inflation under control, Republicans are going to blow it up again... And demand we are not allowed to talk about it anymore.
Walter please stop, you're scaring the children
 
When raids on companies were going to happen, they got the information in advance. They hid the workers until the coast was clear. Bribes do wonders to avoid the law. https://www.clarionledger.com/story...harges-filed-mississippi-ice-raid/2028823001/ When caught, the company execs do not get charged, so they rinse and repeat.
That article was from 2019. We are going to know very shortly into Trump's presidency whether he is serious or not depending on if he scapegoats the workers and lets the criminal employers go unscathed. It's going to be evident right away.
 
If illegal employers continue to skate during this "mass deportation" I will admit here and now that I will have buyer's remorse. They better fucking do it right or support is going to go away fast.

Watch this one aspect and you will know if they are serious or not.
 
I'm listening to NPR running an errand this morning and they had an "expert" from some NGO on there talking about the upcoming mass deportation.

So his logic is that even red states like Iowa won't want to decimate their work force for the meat packing industry so we shouldn't be too worried.

As a business owner when I hire someone I need a social security number and have to file this pesky form called an i9. This is required of me by law under threat of armed men coming and closing my business and raiding my bank. This is not new but long standing policy.

So what in the frosty fuck goes on at these meat packing plants where they are able to have an army of undocumented workers there? Is the IRS and State government just overlooking it? How are they paid? How do the business' file quarterly reports? Annual payroll reports?

Simple logic tells you laws are being broken massively more so by the employers than the illegals. Who can blame the illegals if the government is just turning a blind eye. If you think there isn't a problem then please explain the nuts and bolts of this to me. Of course it all makes sense if you're going to throw the borders wide open that you also will do zero real enforcement at any level. The grift on this one is unbelievably large with roots deep in the Federal gov.

In case anyone is wondering. Trump knows this and this is exactly what he's going to clean up. Again it will be painful when meat prices go up because packing plants are forced to comply with employment and labor laws. And of course this will affect the entire food supply. As long as I understand prices are going up because we're cleaning up corruption and not because we're printing money to hand out I personally can live with it. Hopefully the reduced regulations on energy will offset it some but hard times are coming folks but it's a needed fix.
That is exactly right. Trump doesn’t have to round them up. There are two things he can do and they will self deport.

1) no more free benefits. No food, clothes, healthcare.
2) any business found to have an illegal gets shut down and fined $10,000 a day per illegal

Then there may only be a few bad guys that need to be rounde up.
 
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