Romney Picks VP

bad choice Sara Palin type choice for Romney.... Ryan has less experience than Obama had, he has never held statewide office. They guy basically suggested doing away with Medicare and would be the youngest president ever.
 
He's young, but not without merit:

http://www.pressherald.com/opinion/three-paths-to-americas-financial-future_2011-04-25.html

...Ryan's proposals are the best chance we have of avoiding the gathering financial storm.

- Special to the Press Herald
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http://douthat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/22/structure-not-numbers/

Notice that he 'adjusted' some parts, that's what 'younger folks' do:

...When Paul Ryan and the House Republicans released their budget proposal last year, most of the criticisms from liberals focused on the budget’s sweeping and controversial Medicare overhaul. In this year’s budget, the Medicare reforms have been amended in ways that address at least some of last year’s critiques, and so the smartest liberal commentary (see, for instance, Ezra Klein and Jonathan Cohn) is focusing instead on everywhere else that the Republican budget envisions reducing spending — slowing Medicaid growth, rolling back Obamacare, keeping discretionary spending nearly flat, etc. — and how implausible, irresponsible and cruel these cuts would inevitably be.

Let me suggest a slightly different way to look at it. The one thing that our political system has proven incapable of doing, lo these many years, is actually following through on spending cuts of any scope or magnitude. This has been true under Republicans as well as Democrats: Specific programs are occasionally reduced or repealed, but the trend in almost every category of spending is inexorably upward, toward heights that almost everyone agrees are unsustainable. What’s more, no present Congress can really bind the hands of future Congresses on spending (even a balanced budget amendment would probably be worked around in various ways), so a legislative promise to spend X dollars less on program Y at future date Z is pretty much meaningless except as a statement of principle. A Republican-led, Tea Party-influenced Congress might succeed in hewing to the Ryan blueprint for a year or two, but absent significant changes in the way our domestic programs work, everything we know about American politics suggests that the decades-out dollar projections in the budget shouldn’t be taken seriously.

In this sense, liberals are right to highlight their implausibility — but wrong to argue that they discredit the Ryan budget as a policy document. The highly specific projections are important to the document’s political claim (aimed mainly at skeptical right-wingers, not outraged liberals) to be a surefire budget-balancing document. But they’re largely irrelevant to its real policy purpose, which is to make structural changes to existing programs in the hopes of changing the underlying incentives that are driving spending growth and hampering economic expansion. Thus the projected dollar figures for Medicaid spending in 2021 or 2031 matter less than the budget’s proposal to devolve control over Medicaid to state governments and allow more room for policy experimentation at that level. The projected growth rates for Medicare spending matter less than the shift to a defined contribution plan, the introduction of competitive bidding, and so on. And the biggest problem with the Ryan budget is that its structural reforms probably don’t go far enough — in the case of tax reform because the more controversial details haven’t been filled in, and in the case of health care reform because Congressional Republicans as a group are still wary of embracing substantial changes to the existing working-age system, preferring to just posture against Obamacare instead...
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Was reading some stuff out of Wisconsin. Has anybody heard that Paul Ryan, the rising star, was actually in danger of losing his seat in Congress?
 
And how, pray tell is Romney going to sell the end of Medicare as we know it to the large elderly population in Florida?
 
Who said "the Ryan budget is right-wing social engineering"?

Newt Gingrich. I expect to see a lot of Newt, in Obama ads,
 
mittens had to pick pr, the right wing was putting a lot of pressure on him to do so - the radical right was threatening to desert him

his popularity with voters has been going down and he has to firm up his appeal to the repug base

note how mittens has changed his ads to attacking obama about things that his base cares about

also, he has to hope that the repug plan to deny registering to enough dems will tip the balance in those states so he can possibly steal the election

however, selecting pr allows the dems to tie him to pr's budget plan that seeks to kill ss and destroy medicare

mittens is between a rock and a hard place and he knows it, he will say and do anything to be elected pres and the conservative big money is behind him so far

mittens cannot spend a lot of his campaign money until he secures the nomination and obama has been making use of that fact

round two of the attack ads will start as soon as mittens gets the nomination, even though the cons super pacs have been shoveling lots of money into attack ads right now

i am recording everything that i want to watch on tv so i can skip through the political ads

the level of hate and discontent is just going to get worse so that no matter who wins there will be a lot of turmoil after the election

i just hope that we do not get another scotus 'appointed' president

oh damn
 
Socrtease said:
Was reading some stuff out of Wisconsin. Has anybody heard that Paul Ryan, the rising star, was actually in danger of losing his seat in Congress?
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No. But I did hear it was a near certainty that the governor was going to lose in a recall. How did that work out?
 
Ryan isn't to the far right on immigration:

http://paulryan.house.gov/issues/issue/?IssueID=9970

...Seasonal Labor

I believe that any reforms to immigration policies should include expanding access to visas for seasonal and temporary labor. Wisconsin, for example, has relied on seasonal labor for agriculture and other industries. Due to a lack of seasonal H-2B visas, some Wisconsin businesses face annual labor shortfalls. Allowing for a streamlined, safe, and efficient visa process will provide businesses with needed workers and relieve pressure on the borders.

Additionally, I believe a temporary guest worker program is one component of reform that could help us secure our borders and gain greater control of immigration. By providing a way to legally link employers with immigrant workers, we would relieve pressure on the borders from people who are coming here to seek work. This would allow us more time to pursue the people who mean to do us harm—criminals, terrorists, and drug smugglers.

A necessary component of a guest worker program is an employee verification system that allows employers to easily and accurately verify an employee’s legal status in a timely manner. The faulty and cumbersome verification process continues to provide incentives for the use of fraudulent documents. To provide a system where employers and employees no longer perpetuate our illegal immigration problem, I believe that there are several principles that must be kept in mind...
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He's with most Americans on the issue.
 
I guess we call this the Rhymny Ticket? (You read it here first, in the event that it catches on)...

Anyway, Wisconsin is considered a crucial state, so I can see why Romney would want him on the ticket. Ryan will draw the controversy that Palin drew, but he can also hold his own in a debate with most other politicians, let alone Biden.
 
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Jarod said:
bad choice Sara Palin type choice for Romney.... Ryan has less experience than Obama had, he has never held statewide office. They guy basically suggested doing away with Medicare and would be the youngest president ever.
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Whelp that gaurantees 4 more years of Barry. Bad mistake. Ryans fiscal ideas are very, very unpopular.
 
Don Quixote said:
mittens had to pick pr, the right wing was putting a lot of pressure on him to do so - the radical right was threatening to desert him

his popularity with voters has been going down and he has to firm up his appeal to the repug base

note how mittens has changed his ads to attacking obama about things that his base cares about

also, he has to hope that the repug plan to deny registering to enough dems will tip the balance in those states so he can possibly steal the election

however, selecting pr allows the dems to tie him to pr's budget plan that seeks to kill ss and destroy medicare

mittens is between a rock and a hard place and he knows it, he will say and do anything to be elected pres and the conservative big money is behind him so far

mittens cannot spend a lot of his campaign money until he secures the nomination and obama has been making use of that fact

round two of the attack ads will start as soon as mittens gets the nomination, even though the cons super pacs have been shoveling lots of money into attack ads right now

i am recording everything that i want to watch on tv so i can skip through the political ads

the level of hate and discontent is just going to get worse so that no matter who wins there will be a lot of turmoil after the election

i just hope that we do not get another scotus 'appointed' president

oh damn
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You mean people actually watch those commercials? I view them as wasted money and believe that the income media outlets recieve for political adds should be charged a hefty windfall profit tax since their profits aren't doing much to help America.
 
Annie said:
Ryan isn't to the far right on immigration:

http://paulryan.house.gov/issues/issue/?IssueID=9970



He's with most Americans on the issue.
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Ryan is not a rabid rightwing nut as you would stereotype a southern conservative. His economic policies were written on Wall Street and approved by the WSJ. I'm mildly shocked by this pick. Mitts is screwed. I can't wait to see Ryan debate Bidden though if they do debate he had better hope there are filibuster rules or he'll not get a word in edge wise. I don't think Biden will have the kids gloves on with PR that he did with Palin....not that anyone really gives a rats ass what a Veep has to say. Still, could prove interesting. I would say this choice was as bad as Palin but I think Mitt's going to see a lot of second guessin on this choice and if he loses a lot of people will blame it on Ryan.
 
Mitt Romney killed a guy's wife and is a serial felon. I'm sure Ryan has nothing on him that even competes with that...
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Ryan is not a rabid rightwing nut as you would stereotype a southern conservative. His economic policies were written on Wall Street and approved by the WSJ. I'm mildly shocked by this pick. Mitts is screwed. I can't wait to see Ryan debate Bidden though if they do debate he had better hope there are filibuster rules or he'll not get a word in edge wise. I don't think Biden will have the kids gloves on with PR that he did with Palin....not that anyone really gives a rats ass what a Veep has to say. Still, could prove interesting. I would say this choice was as bad as Palin but I think Mitt's going to see a lot of second guessin on this choice and if he loses a lot of people will blame it on Ryan.
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ROFL at Biden winning a debate. Major Lulz!!!
 
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