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wiseones2cents

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OK. First we will start with a disclaimer: I do not endorse any Presidential candidate.

What were to happen if Ron Paul did win and did what he said he would do? The Tea party would vote for him. Disgruntled non-elitist Republicans would vote for him, and even more so, wouldn't the OWS vote for Ron Paul?

They are both against wall street. Both against the Federal reserve. To vote for Obama would kind of defeat the purpose since Obama's administration is riddled with wall street boys.

Would Ron Paul get the OWC votes?Why or why not.

I personally think that Ron Paul is an elitist too and that this may be their back up plan after they have run the deficit to unsustainable heights. They will close down the Federal Reserve and re-introduced the gold standard, of which the elites all own(and bought using IOU's that the tax payer is left to pay). Still....having a gold standard would be less abusive to the global economy. They cant keep making money out of thin air.
 
Ron Paul would actually have a shot at winning if he could get a significant portion of the left vote, a majority of the independent and youth vote, and at least 75% of the "country club" Republican vote. I believe it is entirely possible. As much as the warmongering neocons dislike Paul, they would vote for him over Obama...or at least I should hope they would.

A lot of the OWS would vote for Paul, but I doubt a majority. Most of them probably won't vote at all.
 
In my opinion, he would not get the OWS votes, and here is why... First off, most of the OWS people are not registered voters, and will not vote. Secondly, the OWS crowd is gullible and will vote for the Democrat Socialist every time, because of their gullibility. Some people made the same mistake in evaluating John McCain... he was supposed to be this maverick who could draw votes from both sides, but that didn't pan out... why? Because left-wing socialists have no intention of not voting for a Democrat Socialist, and it really doesn't matter what they say.

Now, all this said, I DO believe Ron Paul has a sizable base of support, and could win the nomination, and could probably defeat Obama. But this would likely be due to the independent voter, as opposed to the OWS type. Paul has a solid core of about 20%, who would literally follow the man over a cliff. That is huge in an election this tight, and I think a lot of pundits underestimate it. We'll have to see how it all shakes out, but at the least, Paul should be able to help shape the republican platform, and I believe, for the better.
 
ron paul could not get enough of the OWS vote. Dr. Paul is for a very free market, whereas the OWS people are for over regulated markets that favor the worker.
 
Thoth said:
Ron Paul would actually have a shot at winning if he could get a significant portion of the left vote, a majority of the independent and youth vote, and at least 75% of the "country club" Republican vote. I believe it is entirely possible. As much as the warmongering neocons dislike Paul, they would vote for him over Obama...or at least I should hope they would.

A lot of the OWS would vote for Paul, but I doubt a majority. Most of them probably won't vote at all.
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If they didn't vote at all, wouldn't that be good for Ron Paul?

Shouldn't Ron Paul start targeting the OWS crowd?
 
Dixie said:
In my opinion, he would not get the OWS votes, and here is why... First off, most of the OWS people are not registered voters, and will not vote. Secondly, the OWS crowd is gullible and will vote for the Democrat Socialist every time, because of their gullibility. Some people made the same mistake in evaluating John McCain... he was supposed to be this maverick who could draw votes from both sides, but that didn't pan out... why? Because left-wing socialists have no intention of not voting for a Democrat Socialist, and it really doesn't matter what they say.

Now, all this said, I DO believe Ron Paul has a sizable base of support, and could win the nomination, and could probably defeat Obama. But this would likely be due to the independent voter, as opposed to the OWS type. Paul has a solid core of about 20%, who would literally follow the man over a cliff. That is huge in an election this tight, and I think a lot of pundits underestimate it. We'll have to see how it all shakes out, but at the least, Paul should be able to help shape the republican platform, and I believe, for the better.
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If they are willing to brave cold weather for a cause, I am sure they will be willing to brave voting lines.lol

I heard the same thing of Republicans. They say they would rather vote for a goat then a Democrat.lol I guess that is the sentimentality of American voters? They tow party lines just for the heck of it, regardless of what the issues are?

Well he's got the Truthers. He's got the anti-war crowd. He's got the liberals. But he did muck up with the black community he would have to gain ground with. And don't know where he stands with the Latino community.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
ron paul could not get enough of the OWS vote. Dr. Paul is for a very free market, whereas the OWS people are for over regulated markets that favor the worker.
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That is true. The OWS movement supports social programs where as the hard core conservative republican shuns it. Though I am sure they can find common ground. They are two grass root movements that are sick and tired of the old establishment and want change. Change Obama promised to bring and failed to deliver. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.........
 
wiseones2cents said:
If they are willing to brave cold weather for a cause, I am sure they will be willing to brave voting lines.lol

I heard the same thing of Republicans. They say they would rather vote for a goat then a Democrat.lol I guess that is the sentimentality of American voters? They tow party lines just for the heck of it, regardless of what the issues are?

Well he's got the Truthers. He's got the anti-war crowd. He's got the liberals. But he did muck up with the black community he would have to gain ground with. And don't know where he stands with the Latino community.
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I think most on this board would say that I am about as "republican" as they come, and I can say that I would vote for a democrat, if it were a fiscal conservative democrat. I really liked Zell Miller and what he did in Georgia with the lottery and education. I think once was the day, the Democrats had a vibrant conservative wing, and I was always open-minded enough to listen to what they had to say. I can remember Sam Nunn, thinking he would make a good president or VP candidate... I seriously contemplated voting for Clinton. I actually worked on the campaign of Jimmy Carter.

As you can see, I have demonstrated the ability to set aside party loyalty, time and time again, for the sake of principle. Contrast this with my step dad, who is 74 and has voted Democrat his whole life, and wouldn't dare vote otherwise. It's quite comical, he doesn't agree with Democrats on virtually ANYTHING they currently represent, yet he believes he must vote Democrat and save the world from those damn Republicans! Over and over again, we see on this very board, one nitwit pinhead after another, parade around with their propaganda and smear, and unwillingness to bend on ANY issue, to the point of absurdity. And you have the kahoneys to call out those on the right for this???
 
There are some things I disagree with Ron Paul....but he is definitely the most preferred Republican candidate with my own views....

CK
 
Dixie said:
I think most on this board would say that I am about as "republican" as they come, and I can say that I would vote for a democrat, if it were a fiscal conservative democrat. I really liked Zell Miller and what he did in Georgia with the lottery and education. I think once was the day, the Democrats had a vibrant conservative wing, and I was always open-minded enough to listen to what they had to say. I can remember Sam Nunn, thinking he would make a good president or VP candidate... I seriously contemplated voting for Clinton. I actually worked on the campaign of Jimmy Carter.

As you can see, I have demonstrated the ability to set aside party loyalty, time and time again, for the sake of principle. Contrast this with my step dad, who is 74 and has voted Democrat his whole life, and wouldn't dare vote otherwise. It's quite comical, he doesn't agree with Democrats on virtually ANYTHING they currently represent, yet he believes he must vote Democrat and save the world from those damn Republicans! Over and over again, we see on this very board, one nitwit pinhead after another, parade around with their propaganda and smear, and unwillingness to bend on ANY issue, to the point of absurdity. And you have the kahoneys to call out those on the right for this???
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Yes I have big Kahoneys. :) I've been on many message boards over the years and the Republicans seem more brainwashed/indoctrinated then the democrats. At least in my experience. They would dare not be vocal and vote democrat out of fear of fellow republicans(They are bigger bullies).The fact that you are one of the exceptions, doesn't change the facts.

I've noticed a trend also among older Republicans. They are less educated then the older democrats. I don't know if that has anything to do with most Repubs being redneck hillbillies and all, but I've noticed that. Maybe that is why they are easier to indoctrinate.
 
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