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The Texas Lyceum non-partisan poll of likely Republican and Democratic primary voters found that Texans do not differ greatly from voters nationally when it comes to picking candidates for their party's presidential nomination.

Of course, months remain until the real voting begins in Iowa in January.

Texas Lyceum Presidential Poll Results

DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY ELECTION (among 362 Democratic Primary voters):

Hilary Clinton 33%
Barack Obama 21%
Al Gore 10%
John Edwards 8%
Bill Richardson 3%
Joe Biden 1%
Denis Kucinich 1%
other 0%
don't know 20%

REPUBLICAN PRIMARY ELECTION (among 303 Republican Primary voters):

John McCain 27%
Rudy Giuliani 23%
Fred Thompson 11%
Mitt Romney 6%
Newt Gingrich 6%
Sam Brownback 3%
Tommy Thompson 1%
Duncan Hunter 1%
Ron Paul 0%
other 2%
don't know 20%
 
Anybody who actually talks to a Republican in Texas can tell you that poll is worthless and means nothing.

And having talked to many Texans I can tell you that people are not planning on voting for McCain. He's done. Thompson is winning some support, Ron Paul is winning some support, but a lot of people who really matter are undecided or dissatisfied with their choices.

Way to use a poll from June to talk about an election in late August.
 
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Adam Weinberg said:
Anybody who actually talks to a Republican in Texas can tell you that poll is worthless and means nothing.

And having talked to many Texans I can tell you that people are not planning on voting for McCain. He's done. Thompson is winning some support, Ron Paul is winning some support, but a lot of people who really matter are undecided or dissatisfied with their choices.

Way to use a poll from June to talk about an election in late August.
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Don't fret, adam, uscitizen and blackie are committed globalist sellouts. I've been searching the world over for a populist jew. Glad you're here.
 
Adam Weinberg said:
Anybody who actually talks to a Republican in Texas can tell you that poll is worthless and means nothing.

And having talked to many Texans I can tell you that people are not planning on voting for McCain. He's done. Thompson is winning some support, Ron Paul is winning some support, but a lot of people who really matter are undecided or dissatisfied with their choices.

Way to use a poll from June to talk about an election in late August.
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You think someone who was at 0% two months ago, IN HIS OWN STATE, is kicking ass there today? Perhaps you can explain how he ended up at 0% in his own state at any time in the first place.

I've spoken to several republicans from Texas who hate Ron Paul even more than I do .. which is quite a feat. Would it be news to you that republicans don't like Ron Paul? Could you seriously be that delusional that this is news to you?

You think "stand behind the president red, white and blue Islamophobic Texans" are going to vote for Ron Paul? It's news to you that much of Paul's spammable support comes from non-republicans?

USA Election Polls is a Ron Paul supporting site. Go here ...
http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/texas.html ... then you can join in the whining by Paul supporters in the comment section as they blame everybody else but him for his miserable showing.

America is not clamoring for Paul by any stretch of the imagination .. in fact, he's hardly noticed.
 
blackascoal said:
You think someone who was at 0% two months ago, IN HIS OWN STATE, is kicking ass there today?
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Don't put words in my mouth. There are lots of people in Texas who don't know who Ron Paul is. It's a big state with a very large Congressional delegation. Just because I said we can win does not mean we're running the State and everyone wants Ron Paul. It means strategically we can win the straw poll based on a number of factors.

Winning the straw poll is the beginning of the campaign, not the end.


blackascoal said:
Perhaps you can explain how he ended up at 0% in his own state at any time in the first place.
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Yes, I can explain it by reiterating my first point. Most people don't know who he is, even in Texas, and thereby with a limited sampling of 300 or so people, the likelihood of him being a frequent selection in a field of 10 or 11 nationally-known figures is low.

McCain did well in this poll from being a commonly known Senator. And yet now, if you took the same poll, he would be likely to fail miserably and possibly be shut out of that poll to Mitt Romney or Fred Thompson. In the interim, if you ask Republicans who are actually following the race, the very strong second tier right now is populated by Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee.

blackascoal said:
I've spoken to several republicans from Texas who hate Ron Paul even more than I do ..

You think "stand behind the president red, white and blue Islamophobic Texans" are going to vote for Ron Paul? It's news to you that much of Paul's spammable support comes from non-republicans?
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None of this is news and none of this discourages me. Sure, there are neo-conservatives who think he doesn't belong in the Republican Party. Fortunately, this is not all or even most Republicans who believe this. And I'm glad to say there are many things people care about and are motivated by, and fortunately for this country, hate is not the overriding factor as you would have it.

Most Republicans want their party to be a big tent and to be in touch with its Conservative traditions, and they don't see that from Romney, McCain or Giuliani. The nomination is still up for grabs.

blackascoal said:
... then you can join in the whining by Paul supporters in the comment section as they blame everybody else but him for his miserable showing.
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I don't have to whine about anything. I can do my very best to talk with people and persuade them to vote for the candidate and take actions that bring credit to his name. If he doesn't win, I can analyze the performance and assess what did or did not work.

blackascoal said:
America is not clamoring for Paul by any stretch of the imagination .. in fact, he's hardly noticed.
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What you've hardly noticed beyond your bashing of this particular candidate is that America is not clamoring for anybody in the Presidential race right now, and they need decent, sensible people to engage them in a conversation that will get them into this election.

They don't need more negativity and naysaying, and that's why I will not contribute to the problem by adopting an attitude like that of yourself.
 
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Adam Weinberg said:
They don't need more negativity and naysaying, and that's why I will not contribute to the problem by adopting an attitude like that of yourself.
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Your candidate may not need negativity and naysaying but I believe he is dangerous. In spite what seems to be your honest support of Paul, I feel a responsibilty, a pleasurable responsibilty, to unmask him any chance I get.

Any and every time I see a thread about this man I'm going to post the truth about what he is.

Nothing personal intended, but Ron Paul is dangerous.
 
blackascoal said:
Your candidate may not need negativity and naysaying but I believe he is dangerous. In spite what seems to be your honest support of Paul, I feel a responsibilty, a pleasurable responsibilty, to unmask him any chance I get.

Any and every time I see a thread about this man I'm going to post the truth about what he is.

Nothing personal intended, but Ron Paul is dangerous.
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Fear mongering blackascoal? Isn't that a bit bushlike?
 
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