Russia has shot down a passenger plane again

Alik Bahshi

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Alik Bakhshi

Russia has shot down a passenger plane again

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The Azerbaijani plane flying from Baku to Grozny was shot down by a missile in Chechnya, or rather, it was hit, but remained in the air. The crew's request for permission to land was denied and they redirected it to Makhachkala, but they were unable to land the plane there either, only Kazakhstan gave permission to land at the Alatau airport. However, at the very last moment, an explosion occurred during landing. Moscow immediately began to come up with various absurd versions, as in the case of the Malaysian plane MH-17 shot down by mistake.



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MH-17, or Russia in Lies


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So, after a two-year investigation, the Netherlands published an interim report by an international group of experts on the cause of the crash of the Malaysian Boeing-777, flight MH-17, over the southeastern territory of Ukraine, torn away by Russian separatists with the military support of Russia. Based on the collected reliable facts, experts came to the conclusion that the plane was shot down by a Buk air defense missile system, which contradicts the radar data released by the Russian Defense Ministry in 2014, indicating that a Ukrainian S-25 attack aircraft was in the sky at the time of the crash, which allegedly shot down the plane with an air-to-air missile. It seems that there is a competition in the Russian government to disavow Russia's guilt in the deaths of 298 people on flight MH-17. The Kremlin rushes from one absurdity to another. Various mutually exclusive false assumptions are put forward in order to avoid responsibility for the downed Boeing 777. Thus, apparently based on the assumption that American space surveillance equipment could have registered the absence of any other air object in the area of the incident, except for the Malaysian airliner, it was claimed that the airliner was hit by a surface-to-air missile launched from territory controlled by the Ukrainian military, with the exact launch site of the missile indicated - near the settlement of Zaroshchenske. However, the soil samples taken did not confirm the Russian version of the missile launch near Zaroshchenske. From a survey of eyewitnesses, it was revealed that the missile was fired in the area of the settlement of Snezhnoye. Based on the soil samples taken, the exact launch site of the missile was established, namely the settlement of Pervomaysky, which is two kilometers from the settlement of Snezhnoye, which is located on the territory of the self-proclaimed Donetsk Republic. The report also states that the Buk system was delivered through the Russian border and hastily taken back to Russia after the missile was launched at the Malaysian Boeing-777.



The lack of information about the progress of the investigation made it difficult for the Kremlin to choose false options that would refute the involvement of Russian air defense systems in the Donetsk region. In this regard, Russia's latest reaction to the Dutch report is interesting. Russia presented new data on the radar situation at the time of the Boeing's downing, from which it follows that the radar station did not register either the missile or the Ukrainian attack aircraft. One cannot help but wonder why Russia hid this data for two years and only handed it over to the commission conducting the investigation after reviewing the report. Moreover, how can Russia claim that the missile was launched by Ukrainians from the village of Roshchenskoye if, according to the data it presented, the radar did not register a single missile at all? It turns out that flight MH-17 was not shot down, but fell on its own. Absurd! The Kremlin is completely entangled in lies,
Now it is clear why Russia vetoed the UN Security Council resolution on the creation of an international tribunal for the crash of flight MH-17. The main liar of the Empire of Lies (1) is trying to deflect the blame for the deaths of 298 people from the Russian military. The Evil Empire has once again returned to its habit of shooting down civilian aircraft. Russian terrorists in Ukraine, having anti-aircraft missiles, have already shot down Ukrainian aircraft. From the negotiations between the terrorists, it is clear that they mistakenly shot down the Malaysian Boeing, thinking that it was a Ukrainian plane. Interestingly, the main liar gave himself away by citing the fact that if there was peace in Ukraine, this would not have happened. Only Putin forgot to mention that he is to blame for the tragedy. The Empire of Lies, realizing the dangerous situation it has driven itself into, is trying to blame Ukraine. An incriminating fact - Russian terrorists, after realizing their mistake, took away the Buk anti-aircraft system from their position.



It is time to exclude Russia from the UN for its aggression in Georgia and Ukraine, for the blood-soaked Chechnya, just as the Soviet Union was once excluded from the League of Nations for the war it unleashed with Finland in 1939. The international community must finally realize that it is useless to negotiate, much less sign any documents with lying Russia.



1. The Empire of Lies and its Chief Liar
http://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/22317.html



10/08/16


The fact that the Azerbaijani plane was shot down by a Russian missile is indicated by the characteristic holes in the plane's body, the same as in the downed Malaysian Boeing. Moreover, even before the crash, there were people injured in the plane due to the exploding missile, the fragments of which pierced the plane's body and hit the passengers inside. The Kremlin's version that a flock of birds is to blame for the plane's crash is completely absurd. No bird can pierce the body, enter through a small hole left by the exploding warhead of the missile and injure a passenger. However, lying is a common thing for the Empire of Lies.
It will be interesting to see what the reaction of Azerbaijani President I. Aliyev, who is a friend of Putin, will be. In the case of MH-17, the Kremlin blamed the air defense of Ukraine as a country at war with Russia. However, in this case, Russia shot down a plane of a friendly country. Of course, the Azerbaijani plane was shot down by mistake, just like the Malaysian Boeing, but the fact that Russia again refuses to admit this mistake leaves a negative mark.



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The Kremlin, by not giving permission for the plane to land in Russia, hoped that the damaged plane would not reach the destination and would fall into the sea, after which it would be difficult to establish the cause of the disaster. It is necessary to note the courage of the crew, who almost managed to land the plane and save 38 people out of 67 on board the airliner.
 
It is extremely doubtful that it was shot down. There's video of the crash. The plane was intact, not on fire, and hit the ground intact where it came apart.

 
It is extremely doubtful that it was shot down. There's video of the crash. The plane was intact, not on fire, and hit the ground intact where it came apart.

The video was filmed because they knew in advance that the plane was shot down. Literally a few seconds remained until a successful landing. The airliner was damaged on approach to Grozny and wanted to land, but the crew was refused to land. All nearby Russian airfields refused. The Kremlin hoped that the plane would crash over the sea, and then it would be possible to say that the plane crashed for an unknown reason. Only Kazakhstan agreed to accept the Azerbaijani plane shot down by the Russians. Moscow is still looking for a way to deceive the public.
 
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Interesting argument in this article by
@RamzyMardini
, an associate at the University of Chicago, who says that Western escalation strategy in Ukraine is fundamentally flawed because it lacks "escalation dominance" over Russia.https://nationalinterest.org/feature/perils-escalation-russia-are-still-very-real-214177…He makes the point, first of all, that when it comes to Ukraine "Russia's stakes outweigh those of NATO", meaning that to Russia a loss in Ukraine is far more existential than it is for NATO. This creates a fundamental imbalance in resolve that undermines any Western attempt at coercive escalation: it's just not credible that NATO would risk it all for Ukraine, when it's very credible Russia would.Secondly, Mardini argues that Western escalation and prolonged war hasn't weakened Russia but instead "worked to transform Russia's massive latent power into tangible military strength." So much so that militarily speaking Russia now has more "ample room to turn up the dial and escalate below the nuclear threshold" than NATO does, if only because "Russia produces artillery shells three times faster—and at a quarter of the cost—compared to American and European NATO members combined." Russia also has an expanding arsenal of advanced weapons, including hypersonic missiles (the famous "Oreshnik"), that in many ways now exceed NATO capabilities.His conclusion is stark: "To coerce without advantage is a recipe for diminished coercive power in return." In effect NATO and Ukraine are like poker players trying to bluff with a weaker hand - each raise only reveals the fundamental weakness of their position. At some point the wise thing to do, as Mardini writes, is to "abandon unproductive attempts to negotiate from an unattainable position of strength. Neither escalation nor time is on Ukraine’s side."


One is likely wrong....it looks like the Imperial Empire dies in Ukraine.....with Europe destroyed by America on purpose.
 
Arnaud Bertrand
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Interesting argument in this article by
@RamzyMardini
, an associate at the University of Chicago, who says that Western escalation strategy in Ukraine is fundamentally flawed because it lacks "escalation dominance" over Russia.https://nationalinterest.org/feature/perils-escalation-russia-are-still-very-real-214177…He makes the point, first of all, that when it comes to Ukraine "Russia's stakes outweigh those of NATO", meaning that to Russia a loss in Ukraine is far more existential than it is for NATO. This creates a fundamental imbalance in resolve that undermines any Western attempt at coercive escalation: it's just not credible that NATO would risk it all for Ukraine, when it's very credible Russia would.Secondly, Mardini argues that Western escalation and prolonged war hasn't weakened Russia but instead "worked to transform Russia's massive latent power into tangible military strength." So much so that militarily speaking Russia now has more "ample room to turn up the dial and escalate below the nuclear threshold" than NATO does, if only because "Russia produces artillery shells three times faster—and at a quarter of the cost—compared to American and European NATO members combined." Russia also has an expanding arsenal of advanced weapons, including hypersonic missiles (the famous "Oreshnik"), that in many ways now exceed NATO capabilities.His conclusion is stark: "To coerce without advantage is a recipe for diminished coercive power in return." In effect NATO and Ukraine are like poker players trying to bluff with a weaker hand - each raise only reveals the fundamental weakness of their position. At some point the wise thing to do, as Mardini writes, is to "abandon unproductive attempts to negotiate from an unattainable position of strength. Neither escalation nor time is on Ukraine’s side."


One is likely wrong....it looks like the Imperial Empire dies in Ukraine.....with Europe destroyed by America on purpose.
Yes, the West supplies much less military resources to Ukraine than Russia, which relies mainly on the heroism of the Ukrainian people.
 
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