San Francisco Safe Sleeping Villages - $61,000 Per Tent

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San Francisco is paying $16.1 million to shelter homeless people in 262 tents placed in empty lots around the city where they also get services and food — a steep price tag that amounts to more than $61,000 per tent per year.

The city has created six tent sites, called “safe sleeping villages,” since the beginning of the pandemic to get vulnerable people off crowded sidewalks and into places where they have access to bathrooms, three meals and around-the-clock security. The annual cost of one spot in one site is 2½ times the median rent for a one-bedroom apartment in San Francisco.

City leaders are under enormous pressure to address the city’s swelling homeless population, which has become more worrisome and visible amid the pandemic as traditional shelters have had to cut their capacity and other services have been disrupted.

“It’s eye-popping, and we need to understand why that is,” said Supervisor Rafael Mandelman, who proposed legislation last fall that would force the city to create more shelter options, like safe sleeping villages. “We have to find a way to have exits from the streets. But we need them to be more cost-effective than the safe sleeping program that the city has been running.”

However:

The $16.1 million allocated for the safe sleeping program in the current budget is a fraction of the more than $300 million spent annually on homeless services. A 2018 ballot measure will probably raise an additional $250 million to $300 million per year.

The average per-night cost — $190 — is $82 less than what the city pays to shelter someone in its homeless hotel program. But unlike the hotel program, the tent sites are not eligible for federal reimbursement. According to city data, 314 people live in 247 tents. Fifteen spots are open.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/article/S-F-pays-61-000-a-year-for-one-tent-to-house-16001074.php

Homeless has always been a problem. However it has gotten much worse since the pandemic.

Someone suggested that they be put in an old cruise ship so why not?
 
I stay at the St. Francis.

If it had to be my permanent residence, however, there would be serious funding problems there as well.
 
AProudLefty said:
It would help if they gave them jobs.
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A big part of the challenge is mentally ill and those in the middle of drug addiction aren't prime candidates for jobs. There's not a simple snap your finger solution to the homeless problem but what we do see are continued budget increases for spending on the homeless and increased homelessness. Spending more has not made the problem better.
 
cawacko said:
A big part of the challenge is mentally ill and those in the middle of drug addiction aren't prime candidates for jobs. There's not a simple snap your finger solution to the homeless problem but what we do see are continued budget increases for spending on the homeless and increased homelessness. Spending more has not made the problem better.
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There's also the problem of the homeless vets. What is being done about them? They served for us.
 
AProudLefty said:
There's also the problem of the homeless vets. What is being done about them? They served for us.
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I haven't fully thought this through so my mind could be changed but at a high level I have issues with separating us by groups in terms of benefits. However if we were to make an exception it seems veterans would be who we should do it for. I admit I don't really know all programs that are available to veterans so I'm pretty ignorant on the subject in terms of offering thoughts or suggestions.
 
cawacko said:
I haven't fully thought this through so my mind could be changed but at a high level I have issues with separating us by groups in terms of benefits. However if we were to make an exception it seems veterans would be who we should do it for. I admit I don't really know all programs that are available to veterans so I'm pretty ignorant on the subject in terms of offering thoughts or suggestions.
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The number of veterans experiencing homelessness increased in 2020 even before the effects of the coronavirus pandemic damaged employment prospects and financial resources for the community, according to a new report released by the Department of Housing and Urban Development on Thursday.

The increase is a concerning backslide from improvements in the last decade, since then President Barack Obama announced a federal effort to address the issue.

From 2010 to 2019, the number of veterans without stable housing decreased by more than 50 percent. However, the figure increased slightly in 2020, rising to 37,252 in HUD’s annual point-in-time estimate, up by a few hundred individuals.

In a statement, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Marcia Fudge called the results “very troubling, even before you consider what COVID-19 has done to make the homelessness crisis worse.”

Officials won’t know the full impact of the pandemic on the number of veterans experiencing homelessness until later this year, when the results of the January 2021 point-in-time count are released. The 2020 numbers were scheduled to be unveiled last fall, but were kept hidden for months by President Donald Trump’s administration for unspecified reasons.

More at https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2021/03/18/the-number-of-veterans-experiencing-homelessness-rose-slightly-even-before-the-coronavirus-pandemic/
 
cawacko said:
A big part of the challenge is mentally ill and those in the middle of drug addiction aren't prime candidates for jobs. There's not a simple snap your finger solution to the homeless problem but what we do see are continued budget increases for spending on the homeless and increased homelessness. Spending more has not made the problem better.
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Has there ever been a solution to the Tenderloin that worked?
 
archives said:
Has there ever been a solution to the Tenderloin that worked?
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It’s not just the tenderloin. It’s all over multiple neighborhoods. Sadly we’re never going to end homelessness because that’s just not realistic, especially if we don’t force mentally ill people to be locked up. But there’s nothing acceptable or compassionate about the current situation. And it’s a never ending cycle of larger budgets but not better results. And you hear our local leaders say the same thing our local leaders said three decades ago. We try the same things that don’t work with more money and nothing changes.
 
cawacko said:
A big part of the challenge is mentally ill and those in the middle of drug addiction aren't prime candidates for jobs. There's not a simple snap your finger solution to the homeless problem but what we do see are continued budget increases for spending on the homeless and increased homelessness. Spending more has not made the problem better.
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True

For that kinda money they should buy each one a tent & plane tix to fuk UU China(one way) & a pocket full of spending money, Reno being a secondary option for $2,500 & an extra $250 a month to a PO BOX in Sparks if they stay........ :dunno:
 
cawacko said:
It’s not just the tenderloin. It’s all over multiple neighborhoods. Sadly we’re never going to end homelessness because that’s just not realistic, especially if we don’t force mentally ill people to be locked up. But there’s nothing acceptable or compassionate about the current situation. And it’s a never ending cycle of larger budgets but not better results. And you hear our local leaders say the same thing our local leaders said three decades ago. We try the same things that don’t work with more money and nothing changes.
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I've been reading that is coming into the conversation & Yang in NYC has been talking about it.....

I believe that is really the heart of the problem & nothing is going to change until that is addressed..
 
The Street People services industry is a branch of the victim services industry....very big business...low work and high pay and profits.

It wont stop till the Victim Culture Cult is defanged.
 
I dont know if this is exactly right because the subject is taboo but I was reading someone who claimed to make his best effort to do a tally even though our governments and the victim services industry are very not transparent...he said a one year cost of a street person in the Coastal D run citizen....all of the costs to public accounts ...not including what ever the charities do, runs close to $100,000.

Bums are certainly not cheap.
 
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