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The majority of 2020 Democratic hopefuls are sponsoring or considering plans to dismantle the electoral college. Their pledges follow a growing movement for change at the state level and represent frustration over twice losing to Republican candidates in the past 20 years — Donald Trump and George W. Bush — despite winning the popular vote.

By the numbers: Eight Democratic 2020 candidates support eliminating the electoral college in favor of the popular vote, per the Washington Post. Four Democrats are open to the idea, and only 3 want to keep it.

Want to eliminate the electoral college

Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.): "I believe very simply that, in presidential elections, the person with the most votes should be the president of the United States," Booker said in a CNN town hall. But he doesn't believe the electoral college will be abolished anytime soon, and he added, "We have to win the next election under the rules that are there now."

Former Texas Rep. Beto O’Rourke: "You had an election in 2016 where the loser got 3 million more votes than the victor. It puts some states out of play altogether, they don't feel like their votes really count," O'Rourke said to an MSNBC correspondent. He also supports improving the electoral college by having states award electors proportionally as a stopgap before the college is potentially eliminated, per the Washington Post.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.): She called for ending the electoral college at a CNN town hall in March, endorsing "a constitutional amendment that protects the right to vote for every American citizen and makes sure that vote gets counted," saying "the way we can make that happen is that we can have national voting and that means get rid of the electoral college."

Former HUD Secretary Julián Castro: He identified eliminating the electoral college as one of the "important first steps" for enabling more Americans to "participate in democracy."

Gov. Jay Inslee (D-Wash.): "It ought to be one person, one vote," he said in a Vox interview. Inslee also encouraged other states to join the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which currently has 14 states and D.C. signed on in support. "As soon as you get to a majority of states, you wouldn’t need a constitutional amendment." The compact has 189 out of the necessary 270 votes to be enacted. [Withdrew but remains governor]

South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg: "It’s gotta go," Buttigieg told Washington Post columnist Greg Sargent. "We need a national popular vote. It would be reassuring from the perspective of believing that we’re a democracy."

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.): “The Electoral College has distorted the outcome of elections and disenfranchised millions of voters, and I think that’s wrong. I believe that it's time to get rid of the Electoral College, and I am ready to fight in Congress and around the country to pass this Constitutional Amendment to do that," Gillibrand wrote in the bill she introduced in April alongside other Democratic senators. [Dropped out but remains a U.S. Senator]

New Age spiritual guru Marianne Williamson: "Changes to the Constitution should not be taken lightly, but at this point there is too much of a risk to our democracy when the popular vote can be so easily overridden," Williamson told the Post.

Want to keep the electoral college

Former Rep. John Delaney: "If I was starting from scratch, yes, but trying to abolish the electoral college now is impractical," Delaney told the Post. [Delaney is waiting until the time is ripe.]

Former tech executive Andrew Yang: "Abolishing the electoral college would be difficult and would wind up further favoring high-density high-population areas with big media markets that would be the focus of national campaigns," Yang told the Post. But Yang supports making changes "to the way we select the president, including how electors are apportioned and implementing ranked-choice voting." [Yin Yang is befuddled by the Constitution.]

Former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper: "While many of us are frustrated with the way the electoral college works ... there is no possibility of abolishing it in the near term," Hickenlooper told the Post. [Dropped out. Remains unemployed.]

Mixed messages

Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.): "I'm open to the discussion," Harris said in an interview with Jimmy Kimmel. "I mean, there's no question that the popular vote has been diminished in terms of making the final decision about who's the president of the United States and we need to deal with that." [Harris is against abolish until she is for it.]

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii): "There are reforms that need to take place to make it so that our votes are being cast, and counted and represented in the outcome of our elections," Gabbard told a Fox News reporter. "I think there are pros and cons to the existing electoral college and to getting rid of it." [Gabbard is against abolish until she is for it.]

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.): "I believe that it is hard to defend the current system in which one candidate receives 3 million votes less than his opponent, but still becomes president," Sanders told the Post, adding that he believes "we need to reexamine the concept of the electoral college." [The dirty old Commie needs to reexamine Article II, Section 1, Clause 3.]

Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.): She told the Post she is open to eliminating the electoral college, but did not provide further details. [Klobucher is waiting to see which way the wind is blowing.]



Orion Rummler
Apr 7, 2019
Where each 2020 Democrat stands on abolishing the electoral college

https://www.axios.com/electoral-col...tes-94d89ca6-b402-4de3-ae8e-06139592408e.html

The United Nations already dictates U.S. immigration policies. The Democrat Party’s push to abolish the Electoral Collage is a never-ending United Nations pubic relations campaign for global government administered by United Nations bureaucrats where nobody gets a vote.


Parenthetically, Sixty-five or so years ago U.N.-loving traitors tried to sell the idea that everyone in the world should vote in our presidential elections. (I do not recall anyone saying that Americans should vote in foreign elections.) That was probably the first idiotic U.N. public relations campaign to erase national borders.

Inevitably, everybody in the world could run for President of the United States regardless of the Eligibility Clause in the U.S. Constitution. In short: No need to abolish the Electoral College. No American would ever become president because a foreigner would always win the popular vote.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?114582-Separate-Elections-Too&p=2927975#post2927975

It is not only those Democrats running for the presidency. Congressional Democrats are worse because they have some authority to push the U.N.’s agenda.

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf...hUKEwiXz9zmq9rkAhVFgK0KHS39Du0Q4dUDCAc&uact=5
 
Hell yes they want to end the electoral college. That way 4 or 5 solidly blue states will have the power to tell the rest of the country who the president is. The effect will be that small population states will be ignored during the campaigns. Yea the lefties are so much smarter than the founding fathers.
 
Hell yes they want to end the electoral college. That way 4 or 5 solidly blue states will have the power to tell the rest of the country who the president is. The effect will be that small population states will be ignored during the campaigns. Yea the lefties are so much smarter than the founding fathers.

You would have the opposite POV if popular vote,favored the Republican Party
 
Hell yes they want to end the electoral college. That way 4 or 5 solidly blue states will have the power to tell the rest of the country who the president is. The effect will be that small population states will be ignored during the campaigns. Yea the lefties are so much smarter than the founding fathers.

How can that be true when we have had only I beleive three Presidential elections in over two hundred years when the winner didn't win both popular vote and electoral vote?
 
How can that be true when we have had only I beleive three Presidential elections in over two hundred years when the winner didn't win both popular vote and electoral vote?

Easy to see. The screams to get rid of the electoral college started when Gore lost. Now because Hillary beat Trump by a measly 3 million votes from two blue states the race to repeal the electoral college is forefront on the minds of the left once again.
 
Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.): She told the Post she is open to eliminating the electoral college, but did not provide further details. [Klobucher is waiting to see which way the wind is blowing.]


Klobucher is not waiting for the wind to tell her where she stands on this one:

Klobuchar was one of 17 Senate Democrats to vote for the amendment, which would have reversed an executive order by former President Clinton that required government materials to be provided in languages other than English.


Klobuchar says English should not be US national language, reversing from prior vote
By J. Edward Moreno
02/15/20 09:49 AM EST

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...ld-not-be-us-national-language-reversing-from

Klobucher will say anything that might get one segment of the Democrat Party’s constituency to vote for her in the primaries. I have one question. Will Democrats in search of an untapped constituency demand that government forms also be printed in:

pig Latin (noun)

a made-up language formed from English by transferring the initial consonant or consonant cluster of each word to the end of the word and adding a vocalic syllable (usually 'pig Latin') so chicken soup would be translated to ickenchay oupsay . Pig Latin is typically spoken playfully, as if to convey secrecy.
 
The majority of 2020 Democratic hopefuls are sponsoring or considering plans to dismantle the electoral college. Their pledges follow a growing movement for change at the state level and represent frustration over twice losing to Republican candidates in the past 20 years — Donald Trump and George W. Bush — despite winning the popular vote.

By the numbers: Eight Democratic 2020 candidates support eliminating the electoral college in favor of the popular vote, per the Washington Post. Four Democrats are open to the idea, and only 3 want to keep it.

Want to eliminate the electoral college

Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.): "I believe very simply that, in presidential elections, the person with the most votes should be the president of the United States," Booker said in a CNN town hall. But he doesn't believe the electoral college will be abolished anytime soon, and he added, "We have to win the next election under the rules that are there now."

Former Texas Rep. Beto O’Rourke: "You had an election in 2016 where the loser got 3 million more votes than the victor. It puts some states out of play altogether, they don't feel like their votes really count," O'Rourke said to an MSNBC correspondent. He also supports improving the electoral college by having states award electors proportionally as a stopgap before the college is potentially eliminated, per the Washington Post.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.): She called for ending the electoral college at a CNN town hall in March, endorsing "a constitutional amendment that protects the right to vote for every American citizen and makes sure that vote gets counted," saying "the way we can make that happen is that we can have national voting and that means get rid of the electoral college."

Former HUD Secretary Julián Castro: He identified eliminating the electoral college as one of the "important first steps" for enabling more Americans to "participate in democracy."

Gov. Jay Inslee (D-Wash.): "It ought to be one person, one vote," he said in a Vox interview. Inslee also encouraged other states to join the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which currently has 14 states and D.C. signed on in support. "As soon as you get to a majority of states, you wouldn’t need a constitutional amendment." The compact has 189 out of the necessary 270 votes to be enacted. [Withdrew but remains governor]

South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg: "It’s gotta go," Buttigieg told Washington Post columnist Greg Sargent. "We need a national popular vote. It would be reassuring from the perspective of believing that we’re a democracy."

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.): “The Electoral College has distorted the outcome of elections and disenfranchised millions of voters, and I think that’s wrong. I believe that it's time to get rid of the Electoral College, and I am ready to fight in Congress and around the country to pass this Constitutional Amendment to do that," Gillibrand wrote in the bill she introduced in April alongside other Democratic senators. [Dropped out but remains a U.S. Senator]

New Age spiritual guru Marianne Williamson: "Changes to the Constitution should not be taken lightly, but at this point there is too much of a risk to our democracy when the popular vote can be so easily overridden," Williamson told the Post.

Want to keep the electoral college

Former Rep. John Delaney: "If I was starting from scratch, yes, but trying to abolish the electoral college now is impractical," Delaney told the Post. [Delaney is waiting until the time is ripe.]

Former tech executive Andrew Yang: "Abolishing the electoral college would be difficult and would wind up further favoring high-density high-population areas with big media markets that would be the focus of national campaigns," Yang told the Post. But Yang supports making changes "to the way we select the president, including how electors are apportioned and implementing ranked-choice voting." [Yin Yang is befuddled by the Constitution.]

Former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper: "While many of us are frustrated with the way the electoral college works ... there is no possibility of abolishing it in the near term," Hickenlooper told the Post. [Dropped out. Remains unemployed.]

Mixed messages

Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.): "I'm open to the discussion," Harris said in an interview with Jimmy Kimmel. "I mean, there's no question that the popular vote has been diminished in terms of making the final decision about who's the president of the United States and we need to deal with that." [Harris is against abolish until she is for it.]

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii): "There are reforms that need to take place to make it so that our votes are being cast, and counted and represented in the outcome of our elections," Gabbard told a Fox News reporter. "I think there are pros and cons to the existing electoral college and to getting rid of it." [Gabbard is against abolish until she is for it.]

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.): "I believe that it is hard to defend the current system in which one candidate receives 3 million votes less than his opponent, but still becomes president," Sanders told the Post, adding that he believes "we need to reexamine the concept of the electoral college." [The dirty old Commie needs to reexamine Article II, Section 1, Clause 3.]

Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.): She told the Post she is open to eliminating the electoral college, but did not provide further details. [Klobucher is waiting to see which way the wind is blowing.]



Orion Rummler
Apr 7, 2019
Where each 2020 Democrat stands on abolishing the electoral college

https://www.axios.com/electoral-col...tes-94d89ca6-b402-4de3-ae8e-06139592408e.html

The United Nations already dictates U.S. immigration policies. The Democrat Party’s push to abolish the Electoral Collage is a never-ending United Nations pubic relations campaign for global government administered by United Nations bureaucrats where nobody gets a vote.


Parenthetically, Sixty-five or so years ago U.N.-loving traitors tried to sell the idea that everyone in the world should vote in our presidential elections. (I do not recall anyone saying that Americans should vote in foreign elections.) That was probably the first idiotic U.N. public relations campaign to erase national borders.

Inevitably, everybody in the world could run for President of the United States regardless of the Eligibility Clause in the U.S. Constitution. In short: No need to abolish the Electoral College. No American would ever become president because a foreigner would always win the popular vote.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?114582-Separate-Elections-Too&p=2927975#post2927975

It is not only those Democrats running for the presidency. Congressional Democrats are worse because they have some authority to push the U.N.’s agenda.

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf...hUKEwiXz9zmq9rkAhVFgK0KHS39Du0Q4dUDCAc&uact=5

All of those show idiots that have no concept of why the system was put in place nor how it works.
 
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