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I've been watching this develop, and I am just so disappointed in Spitzer. This is Tom Delay shit. WTF is he doing? The Assistant Secretary of the NYS Dept of Homeland Security has nothing better to do than investigate political opponents?

I thought more of Spitzer.

2 Spitzer Aides Not Questioned Over Police Use
By DANNY HAKIM and NICHOLAS CONFESSORE
ALBANY, July 24 — Two of Gov. Eliot Spitzer’s top staff members refused requests from the attorney general’s office that they submit to interviews in the investigation of the administration’s use of the State Police to tarnish a political rival.

The two men, Darren Dopp, the communications director, and Richard Baum, the secretary to the governor, are considered Mr. Spitzer’s closest advisers, and their roles in the internal effort to damage Senate Majority Leader Joseph L. Bruno have drawn intense attention. The governor has repeatedly said that his staff fully cooperated with the investigation. Mr. Dopp was suspended indefinitely by the governor on Monday, and no action was taken against Mr. Baum.

According to documents and interviews, Mr. Dopp and Mr. Baum never subjected themselves to questions under oath from investigators in Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo’s office.

Instead, on Sunday, the day before the report was released, they submitted two-paragraph statements sworn before the governor’s legal counsel that minimized their role.

On Tuesday, Mr. Spitzer again said that he had been misled by his staff and that he knew nothing about the true nature of the effort to discredit Mr. Bruno until last Thursday.

The question of Mr. Spitzer’s knowledge of those efforts — which the attorney general found involved a concocted story and abuse of the State Police — hangs over the case.

Republicans in the Legislature are demanding further investigation of the matter. Though they applauded the attorney general’s efforts, they said his report left a number of questions unanswered, chiefly whether the governor and Mr. Baum had knowledge of the effort to discredit Mr. Bruno.

“The air must be cleared and answers must be obtained to the serious questions raised by this still-unfolding situation,” Mr. Bruno said in a statement, bolstering expectations that the Senate would conduct an inquiry into the matter.

The attorney general’s office did not have subpoena power to compel the aides to Mr. Spitzer to be questioned under oath. The central question asked of the attorney general was whether the State Police had been improperly used by the governor’s staff.

“We had requested interviews with Baum and Dopp,” said Jeffrey Lerner, a spokesman for Mr. Cuomo. “They refused and submitted sworn statements. We can’t compel anyone to talk to us,” he said.

Mr. Baum said he felt he had been cooperative and had not even hired a personal lawyer.

“They asked for testimony, we gave them a sworn statement, they took it and closed the investigation,” Mr. Baum said.

His remarks came a day after Mr. Cuomo’s office issued the report, which found that the governor’s staff had misused the State Police to gather information about Mr. Bruno in an effort to plant a negative story about him. The report said the governor’s staff concocted a false story for why the information was being gathered, saying they were acting on a Freedom of Information request from The Times Union of Albany.

The report found that no laws had been broken. But the news was nonetheless a deep blow to a governor who has billed himself as an ethical reformer.

The report said disciplinary action should be considered against Mr. Dopp and the governor’s top liaison to the State Police, William F. Howard, the assistant secretary in the state’s Office of Homeland Security, as well as the acting state police superintendent, Preston L. Felton. Minutes after its release, the governor suspended Mr. Dopp, reassigned Mr. Howard and took no action against Mr. Felton, saying he was put in “an untenable position.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/25/nyregion/25albany.html?hp=&pagewanted=print
 
Darla one thing I have learned, those who claim the moral high ground often do not walk there. It is just sales and marketing.
I mean politics ahs pretty much gotten to the state of slilme that only slimy people want the job.
There are a few exceptions, but just a few.
 
I've been watching this develop, and I am just so disappointed in Spitzer. This is Tom Delay shit. WTF is he doing? The Assistant Secretary of the NYS Dept of Homeland Security has nothing better to do than investigate political opponents?

I thought more of Spitzer.

2 Spitzer Aides Not Questioned Over Police Use
By DANNY HAKIM and NICHOLAS CONFESSORE
ALBANY, July 24 — Two of Gov. Eliot Spitzer’s top staff members refused requests from the attorney general’s office that they submit to interviews in the investigation of the administration’s use of the State Police to tarnish a political rival.

The two men, Darren Dopp, the communications director, and Richard Baum, the secretary to the governor, are considered Mr. Spitzer’s closest advisers, and their roles in the internal effort to damage Senate Majority Leader Joseph L. Bruno have drawn intense attention. The governor has repeatedly said that his staff fully cooperated with the investigation. Mr. Dopp was suspended indefinitely by the governor on Monday, and no action was taken against Mr. Baum.

According to documents and interviews, Mr. Dopp and Mr. Baum never subjected themselves to questions under oath from investigators in Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo’s office.

Instead, on Sunday, the day before the report was released, they submitted two-paragraph statements sworn before the governor’s legal counsel that minimized their role.

On Tuesday, Mr. Spitzer again said that he had been misled by his staff and that he knew nothing about the true nature of the effort to discredit Mr. Bruno until last Thursday.

The question of Mr. Spitzer’s knowledge of those efforts — which the attorney general found involved a concocted story and abuse of the State Police — hangs over the case.

Republicans in the Legislature are demanding further investigation of the matter. Though they applauded the attorney general’s efforts, they said his report left a number of questions unanswered, chiefly whether the governor and Mr. Baum had knowledge of the effort to discredit Mr. Bruno.

“The air must be cleared and answers must be obtained to the serious questions raised by this still-unfolding situation,” Mr. Bruno said in a statement, bolstering expectations that the Senate would conduct an inquiry into the matter.

The attorney general’s office did not have subpoena power to compel the aides to Mr. Spitzer to be questioned under oath. The central question asked of the attorney general was whether the State Police had been improperly used by the governor’s staff.

“We had requested interviews with Baum and Dopp,” said Jeffrey Lerner, a spokesman for Mr. Cuomo. “They refused and submitted sworn statements. We can’t compel anyone to talk to us,” he said.

Mr. Baum said he felt he had been cooperative and had not even hired a personal lawyer.

“They asked for testimony, we gave them a sworn statement, they took it and closed the investigation,” Mr. Baum said.

His remarks came a day after Mr. Cuomo’s office issued the report, which found that the governor’s staff had misused the State Police to gather information about Mr. Bruno in an effort to plant a negative story about him. The report said the governor’s staff concocted a false story for why the information was being gathered, saying they were acting on a Freedom of Information request from The Times Union of Albany.

The report found that no laws had been broken. But the news was nonetheless a deep blow to a governor who has billed himself as an ethical reformer.

The report said disciplinary action should be considered against Mr. Dopp and the governor’s top liaison to the State Police, William F. Howard, the assistant secretary in the state’s Office of Homeland Security, as well as the acting state police superintendent, Preston L. Felton. Minutes after its release, the governor suspended Mr. Dopp, reassigned Mr. Howard and took no action against Mr. Felton, saying he was put in “an untenable position.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/25/nyregion/25albany.html?hp=&pagewanted=print


I never read the New York Times and yet I found myself in a waiting room yesterday with the Times in front of me and saw this story. A perfect example of why not to fall in love with polticians although I understand the feeling of thinking there are a few out there different than the rest that might bring integrity to their position.

From my partisan perspective the couple of people I know who know Spitzer and have worked with him always felt he was out for himself and his advancement. So while he came across as a man of the people fighting corrupt corporations he was looking out for number one. Basically, a politicianl.
 
I never read the New York Times and yet I found myself in a waiting room yesterday with the Times in front of me and saw this story. A perfect example of why not to fall in love with polticians although I understand the feeling of thinking there are a few out there different than the rest that might bring integrity to their position.

From my partisan perspective the couple of people I know who know Spitzer and have worked with him always felt he was out for himself and his advancement. So while he came across as a man of the people fighting corrupt corporations he was looking out for number one. Basically, a politicianl.

Well, I mean Cawacko, he's no Al Gore (have you heard about the song I've picked out for Gore's run, and the fact that I want to see him naked even if he gets fatter, because I can go on at length about it if you'd like, the people here don't mind), I wasn't in love with him.

But I did respect him, I held him in high esteem. It's a big disappointment.
 
Well, I mean Cawacko, he's no Al Gore (have you heard about the song I've picked out for Gore's run, and the fact that I want to see him naked even if he gets fatter, because I can go on at length about it if you'd like, the people here don't mind), I wasn't in love with him.

But I did respect him, I held him in high esteem. It's a big disappointment.

Not joking, I do understand how you feel, it's disappointing.

What song did you pick???

I swear to God back in 2000 during the campaign some lady in line at the grocery store told me I looked like Al Gore. I almost went into convultions. Fortunately she is the only person who has ever told me that.
 
Not joking, I do understand how you feel, it's disappointing.

What song did you pick???

I swear to God back in 2000 during the campaign some lady in line at the grocery store told me I looked like Al Gore. I almost went into convultions. Fortunately she is the only person who has ever told me that.
You turned down a hot pickup line like that ?
 
Not joking, I do understand how you feel, it's disappointing.

What song did you pick???

I swear to God back in 2000 during the campaign some lady in line at the grocery store told me I looked like Al Gore. I almost went into convultions. Fortunately she is the only person who has ever told me that.

Really, you look like Al Gore? Hmm.

Ok, here is the song: (you have to see the lyrics, it makes it better)

Where have all the good men gone
And where are all the gods?
Wheres the street-wise hercules
To fight the rising odds?
Isnt there a white knight upon a fiery steed?
Late at night toss and turn and dream of what I need


I need a hero
Im holding out for a hero til the end of the night
Hes gotta be strong
And hes gotta be fast
And hes gotta be fresh from the fight
I need a hero
Im holding out for a hero til the morning light
Hes gotta be sure
And its gotta be soon
And hes gotta be larger than life

Somewhere after midnight
In my wildest fantasy
Somewhere just beyond my reach
Theres someone reaching back for me
Racing on the thunder and rising with the heat
Its gonna take a superman to sweep me off my feet

need a hero
Im holding out for a hero til the end of the night
Hes gotta be strong
And hes gotta be fast
And hes gotta be fresh from the fight
I need a hero
Im holding out for a hero til the morning light
Hes gotta be sure
And its gotta be soon
And hes gotta be larger than life


Up where the mountains meet the heavens above
Out where the lightning splits the sea
I would swear that theres someone somewhere
Watching me

Through the wind and the chill and the rain
And the storm and the flood
I can feel his approach
Like the fire in my blood
 
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