Stick that in your hydroxy

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The world's first coronavirus treatment that significantly reduces the risk of death is being given to NHS patients following groundbreaking trials by British scientists. The common steroid dexamethasone was shown to radically improve the chances of survival for the most ill patients.

The drug – commonly used to treat arthritis, severe allergies and asthma – costs just £5 for a full course of treatment and is expected to have a major impact on the coronavirus pandemic.

Martin Landray, the deputy chief investigator from the University of Oxford, said: "Since the advent of this disease less than six months ago, the search has been on for a treatment that actually reduces the risk of dying, and there hasn't been one until today. Now there is one. This is not an expensive drug, this is not a drug where there are supply chain issues or manufacturing issues. This is a drug that is globally available – so that is enormously important."

The results are part of a trial set up in March to test a range of potential treatments for Covid-19. More than 11,500 patients have been enrolled from over 175 NHS hospitals in the UK, including 2,100 on the dexamethasone trial.

Peter Horby, Professor of Emerging Infectious Diseases and Global Health in the Nuffield Department of Medicine and the chief investigator of the trial, said: "This is the only drug that has so far been shown to reduce mortality and it reduces it significantly. The survival benefit is clear and large in those patients who are sick enough to require oxygen treatment, so dexamethasone should now become standard of care in these patients.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...deaths-one-third-severe-coronavirus-patients/

 

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The world's first coronavirus treatment that significantly reduces the risk of death is being given to NHS patients following groundbreaking trials by British scientists. The common steroid dexamethasone was shown to radically improve the chances of survival for the most ill patients.

The drug – commonly used to treat arthritis, severe allergies and asthma – costs just £5 for a full course of treatment and is expected to have a major impact on the coronavirus pandemic.

Martin Landray, the deputy chief investigator from the University of Oxford, said: "Since the advent of this disease less than six months ago, the search has been on for a treatment that actually reduces the risk of dying, and there hasn't been one until today. Now there is one. This is not an expensive drug, this is not a drug where there are supply chain issues or manufacturing issues. This is a drug that is globally available – so that is enormously important."

The results are part of a trial set up in March to test a range of potential treatments for Covid-19. More than 11,500 patients have been enrolled from over 175 NHS hospitals in the UK, including 2,100 on the dexamethasone trial.

Peter Horby, Professor of Emerging Infectious Diseases and Global Health in the Nuffield Department of Medicine and the chief investigator of the trial, said: "This is the only drug that has so far been shown to reduce mortality and it reduces it significantly. The survival benefit is clear and large in those patients who are sick enough to require oxygen treatment, so dexamethasone should now become standard of care in these patients.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...deaths-one-third-severe-coronavirus-patients/

You know steroids have major side effects right?

BTW hydroxychloroquine is used for arthritis too. Just sayin.

I imagine if Trump comes out and touts dexamethasone you will turn on it

 

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I imagine if Trump comes out and touts dexamethasone you will turn on it

You would be wrong. I attach no weight to Trump's medical judgment, one way or the other.

 

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The worst effects of Covid 19 seem to occur as a result of the immune system getting out of control, which tends to happen in older patients. This drug reduces the strength of that system when things get bad. One of my daughters was taking it - or a version of it - for a rash, and had to give it up when the lurgy struck, ironically. I'd guess this is what going to happen - not a miracle cure but uses of drugs we've got already, which will open up a field for the quacks to convince mugs like the Fatman. Important, therefore, to look at the evidence for all such claims.

 

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The world's first coronavirus treatment that significantly reduces the risk of death is being given to NHS patients following groundbreaking trials by British scientists. The common steroid dexamethasone was shown to radically improve the chances of survival for the most ill patients.

The drug – commonly used to treat arthritis, severe allergies and asthma – costs just £5 for a full course of treatment and is expected to have a major impact on the coronavirus pandemic.

Martin Landray, the deputy chief investigator from the University of Oxford, said: "Since the advent of this disease less than six months ago, the search has been on for a treatment that actually reduces the risk of dying, and there hasn't been one until today. Now there is one. This is not an expensive drug, this is not a drug where there are supply chain issues or manufacturing issues. This is a drug that is globally available – so that is enormously important."

The results are part of a trial set up in March to test a range of potential treatments for Covid-19. More than 11,500 patients have been enrolled from over 175 NHS hospitals in the UK, including 2,100 on the dexamethasone trial.

Peter Horby, Professor of Emerging Infectious Diseases and Global Health in the Nuffield Department of Medicine and the chief investigator of the trial, said: "This is the only drug that has so far been shown to reduce mortality and it reduces it significantly. The survival benefit is clear and large in those patients who are sick enough to require oxygen treatment, so dexamethasone should now become standard of care in these patients.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...deaths-one-third-severe-coronavirus-patients/

why are you trying to make people eat fish tank cleaner?

 

[Tacomaman]

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fda...-19-hydroxychloroquine-drug/story?id=71259078

This should end Dr. "tRumpquack's" bullsheet about the drug.

 

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You know steroids have major side effects right?

BTW hydroxychloroquine is used for arthritis too. Just sayin.

I imagine if Trump comes out and touts dexamethasone you will turn on it

Oh, there is no doubt at some point if it continues to be proven successful, he will, either its finding or distribution, even though it is already available.

And if there is ever a vaccine, and it arrives before November, even if it comes from China, Trump will take full credit, that is who he is, just Trump being Trump, he lies, you really didn’t think he was taking Hydroxychloroquine did you? Which by the way Trump’s own Gov’t has revoked emergency use of (https://apnews.com/33f67f8aa5ef2280215087f8e5364017)

 

[Concart]

You would be wrong. I attach no weight to Trump's medical judgment, one way or the other.

This. It's classic projection. They view literally everything through a partisan lens. They don't understand why others don't do the same. I believe in science. If Trump wants to get on board with that, I'm all for it. I see nothing to suggest he is interested.

 

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President Donald Trump on Tuesday said he believes there will be a vaccine for the coronavirus ready by the end of this year, and incorrectly stated that scientists and doctors developed a vaccine for AIDS. There is no vaccine for AIDS.

"These are the people, the best, the smartest, the most brilliant anywhere, and they’ve come up with the AIDS vaccine. They've come up with — or the AIDS, and, as you know, there's various things and now various companies involved. But the therapeutic for AIDS," Trump said from the White House Rose Garden.

By the end of this year, he predicts there will be a "very successful" vaccine for coronavirus, along with therapeutic medications and a cure.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/worl...vid-19-vaccine-by-the-end-of-2020/ar-BB15BZA4


Who knows, maybe he’ll be right for once.

 

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President Donald Trump on Tuesday said he believes there will be a vaccine for the coronavirus ready by the end of this year, and incorrectly stated that scientists and doctors developed a vaccine for AIDS. There is no vaccine for AIDS.

"These are the people, the best, the smartest, the most brilliant anywhere, and they’ve come up with the AIDS vaccine. They've come up with — or the AIDS, and, as you know, there's various things and now various companies involved. But the therapeutic for AIDS," Trump said from the White House Rose Garden.

By the end of this year, he predicts there will be a "very successful" vaccine for coronavirus, along with therapeutic medications and a cure.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/worl...vid-19-vaccine-by-the-end-of-2020/ar-BB15BZA4


Who knows, maybe he’ll be right for once.

There will be treatments then a vaccine, but doubtful it will be ready for mass distribution by the end of the year. Regardless, Trump will take full credit for its discovery and use, even if it is developed in China, his goal is to combat the virus psychologically so the base can get out there and spend more to open up his economy for November

 

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Oh, there is no doubt at some point if it continues to be proven successful, he will, either its finding or distribution, even though it is already available.

And if there is ever a vaccine, and it arrives before November, even if it comes from China, Trump will take full credit, that is who he is, just Trump being Trump, he lies, you really didn’t think he was taking Hydroxychloroquine did you? Which by the way Trump’s own Gov’t has revoked emergency use of (https://apnews.com/33f67f8aa5ef2280215087f8e5364017)

Personally I think it is sad that the use of a drug like hydroxychloroquine became political by you leftists. You don't care whether the drug works or not. You only care about whether you can make Trump look bad because he spoke about it early on.

I guarantee that a study could come out tomorrow showing it has benefits and you would ignore it. You aren't interested in the science you are interested in bashing Trump

For the record, if dexamethasone works then just about any corticosteroid would work. You do realize that corticosteroids have pretty bad side effects too right? You do realize that the supposed mechanism of action of corticosteroids is the same as hydroxychloroquine?

Nah, you don't know that. You aren't smart enough

 

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June 5, 2020

Professor Peter Horby and Professor Martin Landray, chief investigators of the RECOVERY Trial, said ‘In March this year, RECOVERY was established as a randomised clinical trial to test a range of potential drugs for COVID-19, including hydroxycholoroquine.

‘The trial has proceeded at unprecedented speed, enrolling over 11,000 patients from 175 NHS hospitals in the UK. Throughout this time, the independent Data Monitoring Committee has reviewed the emerging data to determine if there is evidence that would be strong enough to affect national and global treatment of COVID-19.

‘Last night, the Committee recommended the chief investigators review the unblinded data on the hydroxychloroquine arm of the trial.

‘We have concluded that there is no beneficial effect of hydroxychloroquine in patients hospitalised with COVID-19. We have therefore decided to stop enrolling participants to the hydroxychloroquine arm of the RECOVERY trial with immediate effect. We are now releasing the preliminary results as they have important implications for patient care and public health.

‘A total of 1542 patients were randomised to hydroxychloroquine and compared with 3132 patients randomised to usual care alone. There was no significant difference in the primary endpoint of 28-day mortality (25.7% hydroxychloroquine vs. 23.5% usual care; hazard ratio 1.11). There was also no evidence of beneficial effects on hospital stay duration or other outcomes.

‘These data convincingly rule out any meaningful mortality benefit of hydroxychloroquine in patients hospitalised with COVID-19. Full results will be made available as soon as possible.

Peter Horby, Professor of Emerging Infectious Diseases and Global Health in the Nuffield Department of Medicine, University of Oxford, and Chief Investigator for the trial, said:
‘Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine have received a lot of attention and have been used very widely to treat COVID patients despite the absence of any good evidence. The RECOVERY trial has shown that hydroxychloroquine is not an effective treatment in patients hospitalised with COVID-19. Although it is disappointing that this treatment has been shown to be ineffective, it does allow us to focus care and research on more promising drugs.’

Martin Landray, Professor of Medicine and Epidemiology at the Nuffield Department of Population Health, University of Oxford, and Deputy Chief Investigator, said:
‘There has been huge speculation and uncertainty about the role of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID-19, but an absence of reliable information from large randomised trials. Today’s preliminary results from the RECOVERY trial are quite clear – hydroxychloroquine does not reduce the risk of death among hospitalised patients with this new disease. This result should change medical practice worldwide and demonstrates the importance of large, randomised trials to inform decisions about both the efficacy and the safety of treatments.’

http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-06-05...oxychloroquine-hospitalised-patients-covid-19


Why didn’t they take into account the “lot of good stories” that Trump says he heard about the “game changing drug”? They must be part of the globalist Deep State conspiracy!

 

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Personally I think it is sad that the use of a drug like hydroxychloroquine became political by you leftists. You don't care whether the drug works or not. You only care about whether you can make Trump look bad because he spoke about it early on.

I guarantee that a study could come out tomorrow showing it has benefits and you would ignore it. You aren't interested in the science you are interested in bashing Trump

For the record, if dexamethasone works then just about any corticosteroid would work. You do realize that corticosteroids have pretty bad side effects too right? You do realize that the supposed mechanism of action of corticosteroids is the same as hydroxychloroquine?

Nah, you don't know that. You aren't smart enough

Nope. It is about whether it works or not. It does not. You get no trade off for risking side effects of Hydroxy. This treatment for the most seriously ill saves lives, 25 percent of the most serious. That is a reasonable risk to take.

 

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Nope. It is about whether it works or not. It does not. You get no trade off for risking side effects of Hydroxy. This treatment for the most seriously ill saves lives, 25 percent of the most serious. That is a reasonable risk to take.

ROFLMAO

You don't know if it works or not. The data for dexamethasone should be treated just like hydroxychloroquine. But you would have to understand medical research to get that.

 

[Concart]

Personally I think it is sad that the use of a drug like hydroxychloroquine became political by you leftists. You don't care whether the drug works or not. You only care about whether you can make Trump look bad because he spoke about it early on.

I guarantee that a study could come out tomorrow showing it has benefits and you would ignore it. You aren't interested in the science you are interested in bashing Trump

For the record, if dexamethasone works then just about any corticosteroid would work. You do realize that corticosteroids have pretty bad side effects too right? You do realize that the supposed mechanism of action of corticosteroids is the same as hydroxychloroquine?

Nah, you don't know that. You aren't smart enough

Nope. The only one politicizing it was Trump, and by extension, the Trump Cult. It is not 'politicizing' to point out that the drug is unproven. Turns out 'the left' was spot on about this. No benefit, only harmful side effects.

 

[Nordberg]

ROFLMAO

You don't know if it works or not. The data for dexamethasone should be treated just like hydroxychloroquine. But you would have to understand medical research to get that.

The doctors, who may know almost as much as you do, say they are using it and it works. They cited the results. rightys jumped on hydroxy bandwagon because it was political. Trump said something stupid and you guys wanted to pretend it was not stupid. It was. Hydroxy failed to help and it was dangerous.

 

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The doctors, who may know almost as much as you do, say they are using it and it works. They cited the results. rightys jumped on hydroxy bandwagon because it was political. Trump said something stupid and you guys wanted to pretend it was not stupid. It was. Hydroxy failed to help and it was dangerous.

Your side made it political

What did Trump say EXACTLY that was sooooooooo wrong to you in the beginning?