Supreme Court justices appear ready to uphold Obamacare

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WASHINGTON — Supreme Court justices on Tuesday sounded ready to uphold the Affordable Care Act for the third time and reject the latest challenge from its conservative critics, including President Trump.
Most of the justices gave a skeptical hearing to Texas Republicans and Trump’s lawyers, who insisted the entire law, also known as Obamacare, should be voided because Congress had eliminated the tax penalty for those who did not have insurance.

Several justices said that while this change may have ended the much-disputed insurance “mandate,” removal of the provision did not invalidate the rest of the broad law, including its insurance subsidies for 20 million Americans and its coverage protections for tens of millions more with preexisting conditions.

Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. said Congress in 2017 did nothing more than eliminate the tax penalty for those who did not have insurance. “Here, Congress left the rest of the law intact. That seems to be compelling evidence on the question” that the rest of the law should stand, he said.


Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh took the same view. He said the mandate to enforce that people buy insurance was unconstitutional, but that should not affect the rest of the law. “It seems very clear the proper remedy is to sever the mandate provision and leave the rest,” he said.

Joined by the three liberal justices, they could form a majority to uphold the law.

Tuesday’s hearing marked the third major challenge to Obamacare to come before the high court as well as the first major test for Justice Amy Coney Barrett. Twice before the law was upheld by a slim majority of liberal justices joined by Roberts.

Senate Democrats said last month they feared Barrett would cast a key vote to strike down the law, but she signaled she did not see a reason for striking down a broad law because of one flawed provision.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/st...hears-latest-gop-bid-to-strike-down-obamacare
 
WASHINGTON — Supreme Court justices on Tuesday sounded ready to uphold the Affordable Care Act for the third time and reject the latest challenge from its conservative critics, including President Trump.
Most of the justices gave a skeptical hearing to Texas Republicans and Trump’s lawyers, who insisted the entire law, also known as Obamacare, should be voided because Congress had eliminated the tax penalty for those who did not have insurance.

Several justices said that while this change may have ended the much-disputed insurance “mandate,” removal of the provision did not invalidate the rest of the broad law, including its insurance subsidies for 20 million Americans and its coverage protections for tens of millions more with preexisting conditions.

Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. said Congress in 2017 did nothing more than eliminate the tax penalty for those who did not have insurance. “Here, Congress left the rest of the law intact. That seems to be compelling evidence on the question” that the rest of the law should stand, he said.


Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh took the same view. He said the mandate to enforce that people buy insurance was unconstitutional, but that should not affect the rest of the law. “It seems very clear the proper remedy is to sever the mandate provision and leave the rest,” he said.

Joined by the three liberal justices, they could form a majority to uphold the law.

Tuesday’s hearing marked the third major challenge to Obamacare to come before the high court as well as the first major test for Justice Amy Coney Barrett. Twice before the law was upheld by a slim majority of liberal justices joined by Roberts.

Senate Democrats said last month they feared Barrett would cast a key vote to strike down the law, but she signaled she did not see a reason for striking down a broad law because of one flawed provision.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/st...hears-latest-gop-bid-to-strike-down-obamacare

So what happened to that conservative majority everyone has been bragging about?
 
WASHINGTON — Supreme Court justices on Tuesday sounded ready to uphold the Affordable Care Act for the third time and reject the latest challenge from its conservative critics, including President Trump.
Most of the justices gave a skeptical hearing to Texas Republicans and Trump’s lawyers, who insisted the entire law, also known as Obamacare, should be voided because Congress had eliminated the tax penalty for those who did not have insurance.

Several justices said that while this change may have ended the much-disputed insurance “mandate,” removal of the provision did not invalidate the rest of the broad law, including its insurance subsidies for 20 million Americans and its coverage protections for tens of millions more with preexisting conditions.

Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. said Congress in 2017 did nothing more than eliminate the tax penalty for those who did not have insurance. “Here, Congress left the rest of the law intact. That seems to be compelling evidence on the question” that the rest of the law should stand, he said.


Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh took the same view. He said the mandate to enforce that people buy insurance was unconstitutional, but that should not affect the rest of the law. “It seems very clear the proper remedy is to sever the mandate provision and leave the rest,” he said.

Joined by the three liberal justices, they could form a majority to uphold the law.

Tuesday’s hearing marked the third major challenge to Obamacare to come before the high court as well as the first major test for Justice Amy Coney Barrett. Twice before the law was upheld by a slim majority of liberal justices joined by Roberts.

Senate Democrats said last month they feared Barrett would cast a key vote to strike down the law, but she signaled she did not see a reason for striking down a broad law because of one flawed provision.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/st...hears-latest-gop-bid-to-strike-down-obamacare

" . . including its insurance subsidies for 20 million Americans and its coverage protections for tens of millions more with preexisting conditions"

It's a shame so many people refuse to provide to themselves what they should be providing. At least we know how many leeches there are when it comes to healthcare coverage.
 
" . . including its insurance subsidies for 20 million Americans and its coverage protections for tens of millions more with preexisting conditions"

It's a shame so many people refuse to provide to themselves what they should be providing. At least we know how many leeches there are when it comes to healthcare coverage.

You just about guaranteed, my dear, that the 6-3 SC majority would overturn this health care plan. Seems like you lost, big time!
 
You just about guaranteed, my dear, that the 6-3 SC majority would overturn this health care plan. Seems like you lost, big time!

Where did I make such a guarantee, boy?

What we both know is that there are 20 million leeches getting a subsidy and tens of millions that think an insurance company should lose money on them.

If you want costs to go down, quit treating healthcare as a right and treat it as what it is, a commodity.

If those that don't have it want it, let them pay for it or go without.
 
You just about guaranteed, my dear, that the 6-3 SC majority would overturn this health care plan. Seems like you lost, big time!

It would be a HUGE mistake to gloat over this.

Be happy it happened this time...hope it happens again (often)...and leave it be. No reason to poke the justices putting themselves on the line here.
 
Where did I make such a guarantee, boy?

What we both know is that there are 20 million leeches getting a subsidy and tens of millions that think an insurance company should lose money on them.

If you want costs to go down, quit treating healthcare as a right and treat it as what it is, a commodity.

If those that don't have it want it, let them pay for it or go without.

6-3 SC advantage, You guaranteed a win, cum quat. Now you should be fucking embarrassed.
 
It would be a HUGE mistake to gloat over this.

Be happy it happened this time...hope it happens again (often)...and leave it be. No reason to poke the justices putting themselves on the line here.

Time after time, we heard about the 6-3 SC advantage and that the ACA would be eliminated. Now it is time to gloat!!!!!!!!
 
6-3 SC advantage, You guaranteed a win, cum quat. Now you should be fucking embarrassed.

If you claim I made such a guarantee, you should be able to post it. Fucking nigger. You should be embarrassed about being genetically inferior, boy.
 
Time after time, we heard about the 6-3 SC advantage and that the ACA would be eliminated. Now it is time to gloat!!!!!!!!

You've said twice I made a guarantee. Twice, after being challenged to post where such a guarantee was made, you ran just like the coward Frank is.
 
You've said twice I made a guarantee. Twice, after being challenged to post where such a guarantee was made, you ran just like the coward Frank is.

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You've said twice I made a guarantee. Twice, after being challenged to post where such a guarantee was made, you ran just like the coward Frank is.

All you got is spin, honey bunch. Anything to keep from talking about the crux of the matter. You fucking lost. Despite this mighty 6-3 SC advantage. Now shove that up your honey pot.
 
You have to have a good case. It is like the election suits. Trump has nothing to present a court. His suits are being swept out with the rubbish.
 
" . . including its insurance subsidies for 20 million Americans and its coverage protections for tens of millions more with preexisting conditions"

It's a shame so many people refuse to provide to themselves what they should be providing. At least we know how many leeches there are when it comes to healthcare coverage.

You really are a vile turd.
 
You really are a vile turd.

No, the vile turds are those that expect others to fund subsidies because they refuse to provide themselves coverage.

Why do you think it's the responsibility of those of us that do provide insurance coverage for ourselves to subsidize it for those unwilling to do so?
 
is there anything left of Obamacare?.......aren't there only about 8 million people still getting insurance from the ACA?.......

They have been saying 20 million people. Probably because of the family coverage! Could be 8.000 ACA policies!

But, it would have been a lot more if it wasn't under constant threat of being taken away by the assholes!

The Supreme Court justices clearly have a problem with jerking such a popular piece of legislature down- that was signed into law by a sitting president.

THEY KNOW THE veto PEN BELONGS IN THE PRESIDENT'S HAND~ NOT THEIRS!

The Supreme court is not the Supreme Veto-ers!
 
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