Tariffs

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Here are the biggest historical wins that used the exact same “tariff threat → forced negotiation → fixed imbalance” playbook that Trump is running in 2025.

Every single one ended with the other country caving and the tariff disappearing, AFAIK.
  1. France & Germany forgot who they owed their freedom to, and slapped huge tariffs on American chicken imports.
    LBJ responded with a 25% tariff on European brandy, light trucks (the famous “Chicken Tax” that's still on pickup trucks today), and potato starch.
    Within 18 months: Europe suddenly remembered they'd' still be goose-stepping if Uncle Sam hadn't bailed them out, and cut their poultry tariffs by 60%, U.S. chicken exports doubled, LBJ removed everything except the truck tax.
  2. Cheap Japanese cars flooded the U.S., Detroit laid off 300,000 workers. Reagan threatened 25% tariffs + quotas. Japan suddenly remembered Hiroshima and Nagasaki and surrendered again. They capped their car exports at 1.68 million/year and built factories in Ohio, Tennessee, and Kentucky, and American autoworkers got jobs. The U.S. auto trade deficit with Japan fell 40% in four years; the tariffs were never actually imposed. But the Japanese knew the Gipper, and they folded.
  3. Canada dumped subsidized lumber on American markets five times, so the reminded them who the big dog was and slapped 20–35% tariffs on Canuck timber. Every time, Canada ran to the negotiating table and signed a quota deal. Slow learners, eh?
  4. Brazil banned U.S. computer imports to protect its own industry, so Reagan threatened 100% tariffs on Brazilian steel, orange juice, and shoes. Brazil blinked, ran the numbers and opened its market completely; Ronnie never had to use the tariffs. The threat was enough.
  5. Korea Korea banned U.S. rice imports entirely. Blow Job Bill threatened to slap tariffs on Korean cars, TVs, and semiconductors. Korea agreed to import 50,000 tons → 400,000 tons by 2004. The threat worked.
  6. China was blasting American industries and jobs with subsidized crap made by slave labor. Trump hit $380 bn of Chinese goods with 7.5–25% tariffs. China retaliated, then lost $40 bn in exports and saw its stock market crash 30%. China cried uncle and signed Phase One, and promised $200 bn extra U.S. purchases + Intellectual Property reforms. Trump immediately cut tariffs on $120 bn of Chinese goods from 15% to 7.5%.
  7. Mexico refused to let U.S. trucks cross the border. Trump threatened 25% tariffs on all Mexican goods. Three days later Mexico remembered the Alamo and caved.
Here's how it works:
  1. U.S. announces brutal tariff on foreign countries that tried to fuck with the USA
  2. Their exporters scream, their stock markets drop, their farmers bitch
  3. The foreigners beg for a deal
  4. U.S. gains parity, tariff suspended, reduced, or removed entirely
That’s why Trump keeps repeating: “I never bluff. I just raise the price of saying ‘no’ until they can’t afford to say it anymore.”

Worked in 1963.
Works in 2025.
Same playbook
 
Protectionism isn’t some modern Trump invention.

It’s literally older than Jesus, older than the United States, older than the English language.

Here’s the 2,500-year receipts, no tables, just straight fire:

400 BC – Athens: The Megarian Decree: Athens bans all trade with Megara because they pissed off the wrong goddess. Basically the world’s first sanctions package. Sparta later cites it as the real reason for the Peloponnesian War.

1st century AD – Roman Empire: Emperor Tiberius slaps 100% tariffs on Chinese silk because Roman senators were going broke buying it. Rome ran on tariffs like the Dunkin Donuts runs on coffee.

1268 – Venice: Venice bans all foreign ships from carrying cargo between Venice and the Black Sea. Any Genoese or Catalan ship caught gets burned. That’s how you “protect” your monopoly.

1651 – England: Only English ships can carry goods to English colonies. Dutch ships get seized on sight. This is the direct cause of the three Anglo-Dutch Wars. Britain used protectionism to build the empire on which the sun never set.

1721 – Britain again: Robert Walpole (first UK Prime Minister) bans imports of any finished cotton cloth from India to protect Manchester mills. Indian textiles were literally too good, so Britain outlawed them. Empire + tariffs = industrial revolution.

1791 – United States, literally year 2: Founding Father Alexander Hamilton’s “Report on Manufactures” begs Congress for 25–40% tariffs on everything from nails to ships. First tariff bill passes July 4, 1789 — before the Bill of Rights. America was born protectionist.

1861–1933 – The Republican Gospel: From Lincoln to Hoover, every single Republican president ran on “protection for American labor.” Average U.S. tariff rates stayed above 40% for 70 straight years. McKinley (1897) pushed it to 57%. That’s how Pittsburgh made the world’s steel.

1930 – Smoot-Hawley: Yes, it was too much too fast, but the idea was the same: shield U.S. farmers and factories from European collapse. Every country retaliated because every country was already protectionist.

1945–1980 – Japan & South Korea: Both countries used 40–100% tariffs + outright import bans to copy U.S. and German technology. That’s how they went from rice farmers to global giants.

1988 – Europe: The EU still keeps 177% tariffs on sugar, 131% on rice, 95% on butter from outside the bloc. The Common Agricultural Policy is just 17th-century mercantilism with better branding.

2001–2025 – China: The PRC joined the WTO promising to open markets, then kept 300% tariffs on U.S. cars, forced every foreign company to hand over tech, and subsidized steel until it owned 60% of global production.

Trump just copied the playbook everyone else had been running for centuries.

Free trade is the historical anomaly, a 70-year blip after WWII when America had the only factories still standing.

Protectionism is the default setting of human civilization.

Every single rich country got rich behind tariff walls, then kicked away the ladder and preached “free trade” to everyone else.

Trump didn’t invent this game, he just remembered the rules everyone else quietly broke while telling us the game was over.
 
Not allowing other countries to take advantage of us isn't being a thug.
That is not what happened.....we designed this current world situation.....now we have decided that we dont like it but we also refuse to take responsibility for what we did....just like our war against Russia.

The world sees all this....it is the massively ignorant and brainwashed Americans who buy the lies.
 
What we are doing now is Colonialism wealth extraction.

The world is not going to put up with this long term.....they are going to decide that the Chinese are right.....they have a better idea.
 
That is not what happened.....we designed this current world situation.....now we have decided that we dont like it but we also refuse to take responsibility for what we did....just like our war against Russia.

The world sees all this....it is the massively ignorant and brainwashed Americans who buy the lies.
The other countries are the ones who have tariffs on us or are dumping subsidized products on us and are manipulating the currency to destroy our industries like steel.
 
The other countries are the ones who have tariffs on us or are dumping subsidized products on us and are manipulating the currency to destroy our industries like steel.


You're wasting your time trying to reason with him.


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The other countries are the ones who have tariffs on us or are dumping subsidized products on us and are manipulating the currency to destroy our industries like steel.
America is the land of "Do as you are told or else we will destroy you".

The Empire is now crashing, for cause, we make the world worse not better....the world is increasingly done with us....America is to be left behind.
 
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