TESLA’S LATEST POPULAR PRODUCT ISN’T A CAR — AND IT COULD HELP SAVE YOU $1,500 A YEAR

[Joe Capitalist]

TESLA’S LATEST MEGA-POPULAR PRODUCT ISN’T A CAR — AND IT COULD HELP SAVE YOU $1,500 A YEAR

Solar panels have been shown to save homeowners up to an average of $1,500 a year.
by Mila Dyson*/*August 16, 2023

https://apple.news/Ak9JRO_wqQkOY4sa7d5i8mA

The price of solar power has plummeted over the past several years, leading millions of American homeowners to add panels to their homes.*
But it can be hard to figure out which panels are the right ones for you. Tesla, the electric vehicle giant, is now offering solar panels as one of its increasingly popular products.
What are the benefits of Tesla solar panels?
Tesla solar panels offer a variety of benefits for homeowners. First, they’re designed to be aesthetically pleasing, with a sleek, modern look that can enhance the appearance of your home.*
They’re also designed to be durable and long-lasting, with a 25-year warranty.*
The primary benefit of Tesla solar panels may be the monthly savings on your electricity bill. Instead of spending a ton on inflated energy bills, you can capture your power from the sun and save cash while helping cool down the planet.*
While there are no estimates for Tesla panels specifically, solar panels have been shown to save homeowners up to an average of $1,500 a year.
And as electricity prices continue to rise, with Tesla panels, you can keep your energy costs down, all while reducing your reliance on the energy grid. This means that you can keep your appliances running even during power outages.
In some states, if you produce more electricity than you use, you can actually make money from your solar panels. And when it’s time to sell your home, you can profit too, as Zillow found that houses with solar arrays sell for 4% more than those without.

 

[Yakuda]

TESLA’S LATEST MEGA-POPULAR PRODUCT ISN’T A CAR — AND IT COULD HELP SAVE YOU $1,500 A YEAR

Solar panels have been shown to save homeowners up to an average of $1,500 a year.
by Mila Dyson*/*August 16, 2023

https://apple.news/Ak9JRO_wqQkOY4sa7d5i8mA

The price of solar power has plummeted over the past several years, leading millions of American homeowners to add panels to their homes.*
But it can be hard to figure out which panels are the right ones for you. Tesla, the electric vehicle giant, is now offering solar panels as one of its increasingly popular products.
What are the benefits of Tesla solar panels?
Tesla solar panels offer a variety of benefits for homeowners. First, they’re designed to be aesthetically pleasing, with a sleek, modern look that can enhance the appearance of your home.*
They’re also designed to be durable and long-lasting, with a 25-year warranty.*
The primary benefit of Tesla solar panels may be the monthly savings on your electricity bill. Instead of spending a ton on inflated energy bills, you can capture your power from the sun and save cash while helping cool down the planet.*
While there are no estimates for Tesla panels specifically, solar panels have been shown to save homeowners up to an average of $1,500 a year.
And as electricity prices continue to rise, with Tesla panels, you can keep your energy costs down, all while reducing your reliance on the energy grid. This means that you can keep your appliances running even during power outages.
In some states, if you produce more electricity than you use, you can actually make money from your solar panels. And when it’s time to sell your home, you can profit too, as Zillow found that houses with solar arrays sell for 4% more than those without.

Plenty of companies make solar panels dumbo. One of the options for a battery back up when we installed solar on my house was from Tesla. Didnt select it because it was much more expensive and didn't really offer any more back up power than the others.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

More options are always a good thing.

We on the right are not against solar power, only against people claiming they can replace fossil fuels with it.

I have many solar powered items around my house and on my boat and they are great.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

As solar panel technology improves and costs come down, more Americans will save money on energy costs.
Solar panels are great because you don't need a powerplant. The energy goes from your panels directly to your home.
If just 25% of American homes had solar panels, imagine the energy we'd save. And the solar panel system would come with a battery storage system to capture overflow. It wouldn't replace the energy from the grid. It would just supplement it.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

More options are always a good thing.

We on the right are not against solar power, only against people claiming they can replace fossil fuels with it.

I have many solar powered items around my house and on my boat and they are great.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/08/rightwing-backlash-reverse-clean-energy-success-texas

In the scramble before the end of Texas’s legislative session last week, a must-pass bill was amended to impose new costs upon renewable energy. This came amid a barrage of anti-solar and wind power measures pushed forward by Republicans to reshape a state that has become the US’s powerhouse of clean energy.

But the conservative lawmakers had help.

Sections of the bill that impose new burdens upon clean energy providers were directly crafted and edited by the Texas Public Policy Foundation (or TPPF), a conservative group that has led the backlash to renewables and to make what it calls “the moral case for fossil fuels”, according to a copy of the draft language seen by the Guardian.

Several dozen edits were made to the bill’s amendments by Brent Bennett, a TPPF policy staffer, the document shows, and Texas lawmakers subsequently passed parts of this language along with the key TPPF desires – to impose new transmission costs on renewables and require them to source fossil fuel “backup” power when the sun isn’t shining or wind isn’t blowing.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/08/rightwing-backlash-reverse-clean-energy-success-texas

In the scramble before the end of Texas’s legislative session last week, a must-pass bill was amended to impose new costs upon renewable energy. This came amid a barrage of anti-solar and wind power measures pushed forward by Republicans to reshape a state that has become the US’s powerhouse of clean energy.

But the conservative lawmakers had help.

Sections of the bill that impose new burdens upon clean energy providers were directly crafted and edited by the Texas Public Policy Foundation (or TPPF), a conservative group that has led the backlash to renewables and to make what it calls “the moral case for fossil fuels”, according to a copy of the draft language seen by the Guardian.

Several dozen edits were made to the bill’s amendments by Brent Bennett, a TPPF policy staffer, the document shows, and Texas lawmakers subsequently passed parts of this language along with the key TPPF desires – to impose new transmission costs on renewables and require them to source fossil fuel “backup” power when the sun isn’t shining or wind isn’t blowing.

Yes because the Biden administration is trying to force us off fossil fuels so of course there will be pushback.

 

[Yakuda]

Yes because the Biden administration is trying to force us off fossil fuels so of course there will be pushback.

Pretty soon we'll only be able to eat a govt approved diet of plant based shit and chicken made in steel tanks.

 

[QP!]

More options are always a good thing.

We on the right are not against solar power, only against people claiming they can replace fossil fuels with it.

I have many solar powered items around my house and on my boat and they are great.

INB4 Terry jumps in and calls you an idiot because solar and all forms of green energy have no value or place.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

INB4 Terry jumps in and calls you an idiot because solar and all forms of green energy have no value or place.

Solar on my boat saves me a ton of money because I don't have to waste fuel running the generator.

Of course solar has a place.

 

[serendipity]

 

[Joe Capitalist]

So what model EV are you going to buy, Serendipshit?

 

[serendipity]

So what model EV are you going to buy, Serendipshit?

I have a Toyota Prerunner Revo 2.4 litre diesel, no way will I get an EV.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

I have a Toyota Prerunner Revo 2.4 litre diesel, no way will I get an EV.

You will one day, Serendipshit. You will one day.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

TESLA’S LATEST MEGA-POPULAR PRODUCT ISN’T A CAR — AND IT COULD HELP SAVE YOU $1,500 A YEAR

Solar panels have been shown to save homeowners up to an average of $1,500 a year.
by Mila Dyson*/*August 16, 2023

https://apple.news/Ak9JRO_wqQkOY4sa7d5i8mA

The price of solar power has plummeted over the past several years, leading millions of American homeowners to add panels to their homes.*
But it can be hard to figure out which panels are the right ones for you. Tesla, the electric vehicle giant, is now offering solar panels as one of its increasingly popular products.
What are the benefits of Tesla solar panels?
Tesla solar panels offer a variety of benefits for homeowners. First, they’re designed to be aesthetically pleasing, with a sleek, modern look that can enhance the appearance of your home.*
They’re also designed to be durable and long-lasting, with a 25-year warranty.*
The primary benefit of Tesla solar panels may be the monthly savings on your electricity bill. Instead of spending a ton on inflated energy bills, you can capture your power from the sun and save cash while helping cool down the planet.*
While there are no estimates for Tesla panels specifically, solar panels have been shown to save homeowners up to an average of $1,500 a year.
And as electricity prices continue to rise, with Tesla panels, you can keep your energy costs down, all while reducing your reliance on the energy grid. This means that you can keep your appliances running even during power outages.
In some states, if you produce more electricity than you use, you can actually make money from your solar panels. And when it’s time to sell your home, you can profit too, as Zillow found that houses with solar arrays sell for 4% more than those without.

Personal experience, and the anecdote from realtors I've dealt with says this is an outright lie. About two years ago, I was in the market for a new house. I looked at a number with solar panels on it. The owner in every case was discounting the panels and price to get a sale in what was then a hot market. Every realtor I spoke to said solar panels--particularly leased ones--made a house far less salable than one without them.

There were issues and worries about transferability of the warranty. There were issues with the remaining debt of the owner on the loan and whether that would be paid. If the owner decided to default on the loan, the loan holder / solar panel company could sue, and as the owner of the house they were on you'd get caught in the middle of that shit if you didn't assume the loan yourself.

EVERY house with solar panels, leased or owned on a loan, was having difficulty selling in a hot market. Solar panels are losers.

What Joke Communist does above is just regurgitate stupid selling points from companies that sell and install those shitty panels.

A couple says their Tesla Solar panels caused relentless leaks that led to mold 10 times the healthy limit, $115,000 in damages, and a long-running legal battle
https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-solar-panels-roof-energy-leaks-arbitration-elon-musk-2021-6

Ghosted by Tesla: Customers say Tesla's ultrasleek, expensive Solar Roofs and panels come with nightmare customer service, often leaving them with unanswered calls and emails for months on end
https://www.businessinsider.com/tes...cost-energy-nightmare-customer-service-2021-5

Elon Musk says Tesla made ‘significant mistakes’ with solar roof project
https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/26/22404639/elon-musk-tesla-solar-roof-mistakes-cost-price-increase

Almost half of Tesla solar panel customers rate Tesla's sales and service as a total suck 1 out of 5 rating.
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/solar-energy/tesla-energy.html

Home solar is one of the most idiotic, stupid, moronic, ideas to be trotted out by the scientific illiterates and engineering know-nothings on the radical Left. The sooner this whole push for Greentard solar and wind ends, the better off we will all be.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

SHIFTING GEARS TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES

Automakers are preparing to phase out cars powered solely by internal combustion engines (ICEs) as governments look to tackle fuel emissions. The growth in electric vehicles (EVs) and hybrid electric vehicles (HEVs) is climbing and by 2025, EVs and HEVs will account for an estimated 30% of all vehicle sales. Comparatively, in 2016 just under 1 million vehicles or 1% of global auto sales came from plug-in electric vehicles (PEVs).1

By 2025, J.P. Morgan estimates this will rise close to 8.4 million vehicles or a 7.7% market share. While this jump is significant, it doesn’t compare to the kind of growth expected in HEVs - cars that combine a fuel engine with electric elements. This sector is forecast to swell from just 3% of global market share to more than 25 million vehicles or 23% of global sales over the same period.1 This leaves pure-ICE vehicles with around 70% of the market share in 2025, with this falling to around 40% by 2030, predominantly in emerging markets.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

Yes because the Biden administration is trying to force us off fossil fuels so of course there will be pushback.

Tesla easily surpassed expectations, delivering 466,000 EVs in the second quarter of 2023. The record quarter was enough to maintain its leadership over the global EV market.

The EV pioneer continues ramping up production at an impressive pace as deliveries grew 10% over the first quarter. The growth comes amid aggressive price cuts that began earlier this year.
It started with a hefty price drop in January, with several adjustments announced since. In some cases, model prices fell by more than 20% in just a few months.
Meanwhile, China’s largest EV maker, BYD, continues closing the gap in pure EV sales. The automaker sold over 703,500 new energy vehicles in the second quarter, including plug-in hybrids. Passenger EV sales reached over 352,000, up 95% YOY, according to data from CnEVPost.
BYD continues inching closer to Tesla with notable growth in international markets, including Thailand and Australia. The automaker’s Atto 3 (Yuan Plus in overseas markets) electric SUV was the bestselling EV in Sweden in July, topping VW, Volvo, and Tesla.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

SHIFTING GEARS TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES

Automakers are preparing to phase out cars powered solely by internal combustion engines (ICEs) as governments look to tackle fuel emissions. The growth in electric vehicles (EVs) and hybrid electric vehicles (HEVs) is climbing and by 2025, EVs and HEVs will account for an estimated 30% of all vehicle sales. Comparatively, in 2016 just under 1 million vehicles or 1% of global auto sales came from plug-in electric vehicles (PEVs).1

By 2025, J.P. Morgan estimates this will rise close to 8.4 million vehicles or a 7.7% market share. While this jump is significant, it doesn’t compare to the kind of growth expected in HEVs - cars that combine a fuel engine with electric elements. This sector is forecast to swell from just 3% of global market share to more than 25 million vehicles or 23% of global sales over the same period.1 This leaves pure-ICE vehicles with around 70% of the market share in 2025, with this falling to around 40% by 2030, predominantly in emerging markets.

Nothing like changing the subject when you take a verbal beatdown for being wrong. EV's are an equally stupid idea. We've been over that ground too. There is no reason for them other than if you think (wrongly) that they'll somehow "save the planet." Like solar panels, nobody would be buying them other than some true believer Greentard types if it weren't for government subsidies and mandates.

In a market where the government doesn't have its thumb on the scale, EV's are a loser. That's been demonstrated repeatedly now to you but you just won't learn.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Now, let's get back to the subject of the thread

Potential problems for solar sellers
If you have solar panels on your home that you’re looking to sell, there are a few potential problems you could face.

First, depending on where you live, there may not be many buyers interested in a home with solar panels. This is because solar panels can be expensive to install, and many people aren’t willing to pay the upfront cost.

Additionally, some solar panel leases require the new owner to assume the contract, which could make it difficult to sell your home.

Finally, if your home is located in an area with limited sunlight, the solar panels may not generate enough power to offset their cost

While there are some potential drawbacks to selling a home with solar panels, there are also some positives. Solar panels can increase the price of your home, and they can help you save money on your energy bills.
https://onestepsolar.com/do-solar-panels-make-selling-a-home-harder/

This home solar installer tries hard to sugar coat a turd, but it's still there--It's harder to sell your home with solar panels on it.

If you own your solar panels, either by paying cash or purchasing them with a loan, selling your home is more straightforward. In fact, when you own solar panels, they add value to your home, so you can sell it for more than you otherwise would. And it is often attractive to home buyers, so definitely talk up your solar energy system when you sell! Make a point to share how much money you saved with solar power — potential buyers will definitely be interested in that perk.

What if you’re still paying off your solar loan? You can still sell your home! Your solar loan isn’t tied to your mortgage, so you can either pay off your solar loan with the additional proceeds you get from your selling your home, or work out an agreement with the new owners for them to purchase your panels. However, unlike a PPA, a solar loan can’t be transferred directly to a new owner.
https://auroraenergyonline.com/harder-to-sell-home-with-solar-panels/

The reality of it:

Selling a House with Solar Panels is Not for the Faint of Heart
https://www.greenbuildinglawupdate....h-solar-panels-is-not-for-the-faint-of-heart/

Solar sucks like Kamala Harris!

 

[QP!]

Nothing like changing the subject when you take a verbal beatdown for being wrong. EV's are an equally stupid idea. We've been over that ground too. There is no reason for them other than if you think (wrongly) that they'll somehow "save the planet." Like solar panels, nobody would be buying them other than some true believer Greentard types if it weren't for government subsidies and mandates.

In a market where the government doesn't have its thumb on the scale, EV's are a loser. That's been demonstrated repeatedly now to you but you just won't learn.

OMG.

You are repeating this stupid and debunked argument again despite being owned on it many times??

That is very dishonest Terry.


The government ALREADY has its thumb in the market with about 100 years of subsidies and bailouts to O&G and ICE vehicle manufacturers.

Deep, deep embedded and current subsidies that impact every element of cost and what we pay making O&G and ICE vehicle cheaper than they otherwise would be.


YOu are a true believer or better yet a true liar on every thing you say in this space. You want EV's to compete with NO subsidies while NEVER suggesting the same for O&G and ICE nor addressing the embedded historical benefits.

This is a failed version of the 'bootstraps' argument used elsewhere by people like you. Dishonest to their core!

 

[serendipity]

You will one day, Serendipshit. You will one day.

Hey arsewipe, bone up on E-Diesel you might actually learn something. Sadly you've never ever presented yourself as anything other than a bimbocile and I doubt if that would ever change.