APP - Thank you President Bush

Its been quoted. Its immortal now.

Bush wasn't al so bad? What will history books say about him in 50 years?
 
Dionaea said:
Its been quoted. Its immortal now.

Bush wasn't al so bad? What will history books say about him in 50 years?
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that he sucked and that he was the 21st century equivalent of Warren G. Harding and that he committed the worst crime a US President could committ. He lied to this nation into an immoral an unnecessary war.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
that he sucked and that he was the 21st century equivalent of Warren G. Harding and that he committed the worst crime a US President could committ. He lied to this nation into an immoral an unnecessary war.
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Im pretty certain that wont be the case. We tend to forget percieved presidential shortcomings in time and history book. Or at least mitigate them to footnotes.
 
Dionaea said:
Im pretty certain that wont be the case. We tend to forget percieved presidential shortcomings in time and history book. Or at least mitigate them to footnotes.
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It already is the case and will remain the case 50 years from now.
 
This sort of drilling, fracking, etc is going on everywhere in the US today. Has nothing to do with Bush as it is mostly a state issue. PA has lots of it in the Marcellus Shale which runs up into NY. Life on earth, millions of years ago now creates energy for today, how do the people who consider the earth a few years old reconcile this stuff with their belief systems. Also, consider how many wells have been dug since Obama has been president, so should he be thanked instead of Bush. And this too, without government support this technology would not even have taken off. Odd huh. Now consider price, that is another discussion. lol Drill baby drill ain't a working to well when ti comes to the bottom dollar, they may need to raise that 15 to 25 or more like Alaska. lol

"First, let’s examine the claim that more drilling can lower gasoline prices. Between 1999 and 2007, permits for drilling in onshore and offshore public lands “increased by more than 361 percent, yet gasoline prices have also risen dramatically,” the House Natural Resources Committee reported in a new analysis. “There is simply no correlation between the two.""

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11397.html

Even the conservative US News and World Report agrees, ruining our home is a bad idea.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news...ic-drilling-wouldnt-cool-high-oil-prices.html
 
Dionaea said:
Im pretty certain that wont be the case. We tend to forget percieved presidential shortcomings in time and history book. Or at least mitigate them to footnotes.
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Trust me. George W. Bush will be remembered as an ideologue who bungled the war on terrorism and bogged this nation down in the uneccesary and immoral war in Iraq which had nothing at all to do with the 911 attacks. He'll also be known for his gross incompetence in managing the Hurricane Katrina disaster and for being asleep at the wheel during the Subprime Banking fiasco that caused the 2008 Great Recesion.


Those will be W's legacy though his primary legacy will for his decieving the American public into the war in Iraq and then permitting it to become a quagmire while simultaneously dropping the ball in Afghanistan and letting bin Ladin get away.

Obama on the other hand, assuming nothing unforseen happens between now and 2016 legacy will be for the following three things.

Digging us out of Bush's and the neocons shithole they dumped the American public into.
The PP&ACA.
Capturing and killing Osama bin Ladin.
 
midcan5 said:
This sort of drilling, fracking, etc is going on everywhere in the US today. Has nothing to do with Bush as it is mostly a state issue. PA has lots of it in the Marcellus Shale which runs up into NY. Life on earth, millions of years ago now creates energy for today, how do the people who consider the earth a few years old reconcile this stuff with their belief systems. Also, consider how many wells have been dug since Obama has been president, so should he be thanked instead of Bush. And this too, without government support this technology would not even have taken off. Odd huh. Now consider price, that is another discussion. lol Drill baby drill ain't a working to well when ti comes to the bottom dollar, they may need to raise that 15 to 25 or more like Alaska. lol

"First, let’s examine the claim that more drilling can lower gasoline prices. Between 1999 and 2007, permits for drilling in onshore and offshore public lands “increased by more than 361 percent, yet gasoline prices have also risen dramatically,” the House Natural Resources Committee reported in a new analysis. “There is simply no correlation between the two.""

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11397.html

Even the conservative US News and World Report agrees, ruining our home is a bad idea.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news...ic-drilling-wouldnt-cool-high-oil-prices.html
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Well to the untrained individual in economics your post would appear lucid and make sense. However, you are forgetting the impact of the fed and its monetary policy which impacts commodities such as oil.

As to your claim that "drilling has taken place UNDER OBOMBYA", that is misleading. Can you point to a specific policy of his that has led to increased drilling? Sounds like you are just crediting him for being present and not any foresight.
 
midcan5 said:
This sort of drilling, fracking, etc is going on everywhere in the US today. Has nothing to do with Bush as it is mostly a state issue. PA has lots of it in the Marcellus Shale which runs up into NY. Life on earth, millions of years ago now creates energy for today, how do the people who consider the earth a few years old reconcile this stuff with their belief systems. Also, consider how many wells have been dug since Obama has been president, so should he be thanked instead of Bush. And this too, without government support this technology would not even have taken off. Odd huh. Now consider price, that is another discussion. lol Drill baby drill ain't a working to well when ti comes to the bottom dollar, they may need to raise that 15 to 25 or more like Alaska. lol

"First, let’s examine the claim that more drilling can lower gasoline prices. Between 1999 and 2007, permits for drilling in onshore and offshore public lands “increased by more than 361 percent, yet gasoline prices have also risen dramatically,” the House Natural Resources Committee reported in a new analysis. “There is simply no correlation between the two.""

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11397.html

Even the conservative US News and World Report agrees, ruining our home is a bad idea.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news...ic-drilling-wouldnt-cool-high-oil-prices.html
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Uhh...no offense Midcan...but what does this have to do with the price of fish? We're discussing the Bush legacy.
 
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