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Code1211 said:
This seems like an old topic. Also completely unrelated to reality, but then... Well, what can be said?

Do you feel it's odd that Putin did not invade Ukraine until Trump, who constrained him, was gone and the idiot/coward Biden was the opposition?

"If this is true, what else must be true?"
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I do not find it odd.
 
Code1211 said:
This seems like an old topic. Also completely unrelated to reality, but then... Well, what can be said?

Do you feel it's odd that Putin did not invade Ukraine until Trump, who constrained him, was gone and the idiot/coward Biden was the opposition?

"If this is true, what else must be true?"
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You think Putin's decision to invade Ukraine was based on who was or wasn't the US president? *incredulous look*
 
Code1211 said:
Do you feel it's odd that Putin did not invade Ukraine until Trump, who constrained him, was gone and the idiot/coward Biden was the opposition?
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If that's the real reason Putin waited, it didn't do him any good, did it? He's not winning, you know.

Ukraine is getting maximum support from Biden short of risking nuclear war. Do you think Trump would have done more?
 
christiefan915 said:
You think Putin's decision to invade Ukraine was based on who was or wasn't the US president? *incredulous look*
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I think that Putin, like all bullies, is encouraged or constrained by some sort of cost-benefit analysis that measures what he might gain against what he might loose. Bullies tend to oppress those that they can easily victimize.

Whatever else was/is displayed by Trump in all of his actions, comments and interactions with others, there was an ample amount of crazy included.

"Crazy" means that reactions are unpredictable. Bullies prefer predictable outcomes. With the "crazy" of Trump, that was absent.

With a cowardly dementia victim announcing that no resistance would be offered, that predictability increased. Putin's calculation was confirmed by the Afghanistan debacle.

Zelenskyy has proven to be a wild card in all of this, though. When he told Biden he needed weapons, "not a ride", the world, in unison, stopped and said, "WOW! This guy isn't a lying thief!"

Simply by NOT being a lying thief, Zelenskyy showed he is not the standard politician. By not being the worst of us, that is, a lying thief, he was elevated above all of his peers. In the eyes of other lying thieves, "crazy". On this particular point, similar to Trump.

If Trump was still in office or if Putin had understood Zelenskyy's courage and resolve, Putin would not have invaded.

This is not complex stuff.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
If that's the real reason Putin waited, it didn't do him any good, did it? He's not winning, you know.

Ukraine is getting maximum support from Biden short of risking nuclear war. Do you think Trump would have done more?
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Judging only by what happened in the real world, Trump DID do more.

Putin did not invade Ukraine while Trump was in office.

The preparations to invade Ukraine did not begin over night in February. They were building across 2021 and accelerated when Biden ordered the US to cut and run out of Afghanistan.

Russia was actually reducing its troop count on the Ukraine Border until summer of 2021 after he spoke to Biden and the US decided to reduce military aid to Ukraine and showed Biden's lack of resolve in Afghanistan.

Facts are facts. Putin met with Biden. Russia was drawing down troops in earlier Summer of 2021. Putin invaded Ukraine in February 2022.

Trump is the only US President of the 21st Century that did not watch as Russia invaded and/or annexed territory of sovereign countries.

Politico that is generally a reliable propaganda outlet for the Democrats published this article:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/18/white-house-ukraine-military-lethal-weapons-495169
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By BETSY WOODRUFF SWAN and PAUL MCLEARY

06/18/2021 01:00 PM EDT

Updated: 06/18/2021 06:53 PM EDT

The Biden White House has temporarily halted a military aid package to Ukraine that would include lethal weapons, a plan originally made in response to aggressive Russian troop movements along Ukraine’s border this spring.
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Key items under consideration for the package include short-range air defense systems, small arms and more anti-tank weapons, according to two people with knowledge of the discussions.
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Code1211 said:
Facts are facts.
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On February 22 Trump said: “I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.”

The Biden administration, along with US and UK intel, had been warning for months that Putin was planning to invade Ukraine. But Trump didn’t believe it, even two days before it happened. He knew better - Putin was being a smart negotiator, he thought. And Trump is never wrong.

I don’t think Trump is “crazy”. He’s a self-obsessed ignoramus, way out of his depth. I’m extremely glad he wasn’t in charge when this happened.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
On February 22 Trump said: “I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.”

The Biden administration, along with US and UK intel, had been warning for months that Putin was planning to invade Ukraine. But Trump didn’t believe it, even two days before it happened. He knew better - Putin was being a smart negotiator, he thought. And Trump is never wrong.

I don’t think Trump is “crazy”. He’s a self-obsessed ignoramus, way out of his depth. I’m extremely glad he wasn’t in charge when this happened.
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Why did amputate a shred of my thought and present it as if it was the whole thought?
 
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