The Crime Fraud Exception

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Evmetro

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The crime-fraud exception can render the privilege moot when communications between an attorney and client are themselves used to further a crime, tort, or fraud. In Clark v. United States, the US Supreme Court stated that "A client who consults an attorney for advice that will serve him in the commission of a fraud will have no help from the law. He must let the truth be told."[8] The crime-fraud exception also does require that the crime or fraud discussed between client and attorney be carried out to be triggered.[9] US Courts have not yet conclusively ruled how little knowledge an attorney can have of the underlying crime or fraud before the privilege detaches and the attorney's communications or requisite testimony become admissible
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Do we know what the actual exception was for the raid? I'm sure there is plenty of speculation and assumptions, but do we know what exactly they had that allowed them to render attorney client privilege moot?
 
Evmetro said:
I suspect that whatever it is, it will be a political debate as to if it qualifies or not.
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The raid's justification did meet the satisfaction of a judge, was approved by the Trump Justice Dept., and was executed by a Trump appointed prosecutor so it seems as if whatever the reasons are bias against Trump ain't one of the considerations, although I'm sure it will be raised and implied
 
archives said:
The raid's justification did meet the satisfaction of a judge, was approved by the Trump Justice Dept., and was executed by a Trump appointed prosecutor so it seems as if whatever the reasons are bias against Trump ain't one of the considerations, although I'm sure it will be raised and implied
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There is a lot of mistrust in the current political landscape in regard to judges and due process. The justification for the raids is probably a lot more important to know than anything that is gathered in them. I would not be the least bit surprised if Cohen was as crooked as a lefty politician, but I am concerned about the justification for the raids. This is what I will be watching.
 
Evmetro said:
There is a lot of mistrust in the current political landscape in regard to judges and due process. The justification for the raids is probably a lot more important to know than anything that is gathered in them. I would not be the least bit surprised if Cohen was as crooked as a lefty politician, but I am concerned about the justification for the raids. This is what I will be watching.
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The "justification," unique perspective coming from a conservative who more than likely fully supported six years of continuous redundant "investigations" into BenghaziGate when the "investigation" preceding it produced nothing

Now did your "mistrust ...... regard judges and due process" arise with the advent of GOP innuendos on FISA courts which is motivated by official investigations into the President's campaign or was it present all along?
 
Evmetro said:
From Wiki:



Do we know what the actual exception was for the raid? I'm sure there is plenty of speculation and assumptions, but do we know what exactly they had that allowed them to render attorney client privilege moot?
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Since it was sent down to be outside the special prosecution, it is unlikely the crime being investigated related to Trump
 
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