The difference between liberalism and conservatism

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The difference between liberalism and conservatism is merely one of the difference between slave drivers who prefer the carrot or the stick.

Conservatism: We should keep the proletariat down through harsh measures, as well as blinding them with nationalism and religion.
Liberalism: We should the proletariat down through the use of kindness and incentives.
Socialism: The proletariat should not be kept down, and should rule itself.
 
The difference between liberalism and conservatism is merely one of the difference between slave drivers who prefer the carrot or the stick.

Conservatism: We should keep the proletariat down through harsh measures, as well as blinding them with nationalism and religion.
Liberalism: We should the proletariat down through the use of kindness and incentives.
Socialism: The proletariat should not be kept down, and should rule itself.

Go to Vietnam fool and see if you can find any socialists, especially in Saigon.


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The difference between liberalism and conservatism is merely one of the difference between slave drivers who prefer the carrot or the stick.

Conservatism: We should keep the proletariat down through harsh measures, as well as blinding them with nationalism and religion.
Liberalism: We should the proletariat down through the use of kindness and incentives.
Socialism: The proletariat should not be kept down, and should rule itself.

As for socialism, if the proletariat was able to do that, so many of them wouldn't be relying on others to support them financially. In the cases where they are, no one is keep them down but themselves by being unwilling to do for oneself.
 
As for socialism, if the proletariat was able to do that, so many of them wouldn't be relying on others to support them financially. In the cases where they are, no one is keep them down but themselves by being unwilling to do for oneself.

The proletariat hold society up by themselves. They are the workers in society, those that produce rather that sitting around and subsisting off of rent.
 
The proletariat hold society up by themselves. They are the workers in society, those that produce rather that sitting around and subsisting off of rent.

If the proletariat could, many of them wouldn't be relying on others in society to support them and provide for them.

If one group, we'll call them freeloaders, would actually do what you say, the other group, we'll call them contributors to society, wouldn't be forced to provide the freeloaders things the freeloaders should provide themselves.
 
As for socialism, if the proletariat was able to do that, so many of them wouldn't be relying on others to support them financially. In the cases where they are, no one is keep them down but themselves by being unwilling to do for oneself.

Since working people support layer upon layer of useless, thieving parasites, you are manifestly talking drunken right-wing drivel.
 
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Since working people support layer upon layer of useless, thieving parasites, you are manifestly talking drunken right-wing drivel.

A lot of working people don't pay the specific taxes that fund what you say they fund.

In the U.S., a family of five (2 adults, 3 children) doesn't pay a dime of income taxes until the gross income is $58,750 and that's based solely on the makeup of the family. It doesn't take into account other deductions or credits specific situations may get. What that means is the $58,750 is the minimum amount where taxation actually begins but it could be higher. In addition, if they do reach that minimum, they pay a whopping $4 in income taxes. That's hardly supporting layer upon layer of people.

Before you think about questioning whether or not what I stated was fact, I can prove it.
 
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A lot of working people don't pay the specific taxes that fund what you say they fund.

In the U.S., a family of five (2 adults, 3 children) doesn't pay a dime of income taxes until the gross income is $58,750 and that's based solely on the makeup of the family. It doesn't take into account other deductions or credits specific situations may get. What that means is the $58,750 is the minimum amount where taxation actually begins but it could be higher. In addition, if they do reach that minimum, they pay a whopping $4 in income taxes. That's hardly supporting layer upon layer of people.

Before you think about questioning whether or not what I stated was fact, I can prove it.

Why should working people pay anything, when they already support all you idle shits?
 
Why should working people pay anything, when they already support all you idle shits?

You're the one that said they do. Wish to withdraw that claim?

Idle shit? I'll work more today on my day off than you'll work when you're supposed to be there.
 
You're the one that said they do. Wish to withdraw that claim?

Idle shit? I'll work more today on my day off than you'll work when you're supposed to be there.

They support you shits, clown, by having about a third of their wages stolen, as you know. That's what 'profit' is, obviously. What useful thing do YOU produce?
 
They support you shits, clown, by having about a third of their wages stolen, as you know. That's what 'profit' is, obviously. What useful thing do YOU produce?

They don't support me. I support myself.

When someone is being paid what their skills are worth, nothing is being stolen from them. The only thing the freeloaders provide is another opportunity for the rest of us to pay more taxes because their sorry asses won't work or offer such low skills, they can't do for themselves.

I produce places for people to live.
 
If the proletariat could, many of them wouldn't be relying on others in society to support them and provide for them.

If one group, we'll call them freeloaders, would actually do what you say, the other group, we'll call them contributors to society, wouldn't be forced to provide the freeloaders things the freeloaders should provide themselves.

If you work, you are the proletariat. There is no such thing as the middle class, there are the workers and the owners. Which one are you? You are kept enthralled to the owners based on this fanciful fiction that there's some massive group of people who don't work in the lower class, when you yourself are the lower class.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proletariat


The
proletariat (/ˌproʊlɪˈtɛəriːət/ from Latin proletarius) is a term for the class of wage-earners, in a capitalist society, whose only possession of significant material value is their labor-power (their ability to work);[SUP][1][/SUP] a member of such a class is a proletarian.

Now, where do you derive most of your income? Interest earned on your accumulated capitol, or your labor? Your labor? Then you are, by definition, the proletariat.
 
If you work, you are the proletariat. There is no such thing as the middle class, there are the workers and the owners. Which one are you? You are kept enthralled to the owners based on this fanciful fiction that there's some massive group of people who don't work in the lower class, when you yourself are the lower class.

I'm not the proletariat which leaves only one other option.
 
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