The Durham report reveals how bad information spreads in Trump's MAGA world

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On Saturday night former President Donald Trump declared that he was the victim of a scandal "far greater" than Watergate. He called for criminal prosecutions and "reparations." He said "in a stronger period of time in our country, this crime would have been punishable by death."

Trump's statement made no sense -- except to the Fox audience base that badly wants it to be true.

Four days later, Trump-aligned media outlets are still amplifying his bogus message far and wide and ranting about the circumstances of his 2016 election win over Hillary Clinton. Tuesday's cover of the New York Post portrayed "HILLARY THE SPY." The Wall Street Journal editorial page said "Trump really was spied on." Fox hosts have called it a "bombshell" dozens of times.


The actual court filing at issue is much less newsworthy than the explosion of false claims that have ricocheted from it. Reporters who went down the rabbit hole to examine the evidence found something very different from what Trump and his media allies said. That should have been the end of it — but instead the careful reporting became fodder for commentators to allege a media cover-up. That's why it is worth examining this as a media phenomenon and an example of how talking points are spread by a massive media apparatus and shared by millions of consumers.

The anatomy of a right-wing talking point................

So in this pro-Trump media bubble, any scrap of information that supports the "hoax" hypothesis or the idea that Trump was right when he said he'd been spied on, no matter how irrelevant or incomplete, is turned into a big story.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...tion-spreads-in-trump-s-maga-world/ar-AATX1f9
 
Thanks, great opinion piece. I'm saving it for a topic in my cultural anthropology course.

As Joe Capitalist pointed out, the Reichwing is desperate to drum up *anything* to keep our eyes not focused over at that Jan. 6 special investigation.
 
On Saturday night former President Donald Trump declared that he was the victim of a scandal "far greater" than Watergate. He called for criminal prosecutions and "reparations." He said "in a stronger period of time in our country, this crime would have been punishable by death."

Trump's statement made no sense -- except to the Fox audience base that badly wants it to be true.

Four days later, Trump-aligned media outlets are still amplifying his bogus message far and wide and ranting about the circumstances of his 2016 election win over Hillary Clinton. Tuesday's cover of the New York Post portrayed "HILLARY THE SPY." The Wall Street Journal editorial page said "Trump really was spied on." Fox hosts have called it a "bombshell" dozens of times.


The actual court filing at issue is much less newsworthy than the explosion of false claims that have ricocheted from it. Reporters who went down the rabbit hole to examine the evidence found something very different from what Trump and his media allies said. That should have been the end of it — but instead the careful reporting became fodder for commentators to allege a media cover-up. That's why it is worth examining this as a media phenomenon and an example of how talking points are spread by a massive media apparatus and shared by millions of consumers.

The anatomy of a right-wing talking point................

So in this pro-Trump media bubble, any scrap of information that supports the "hoax" hypothesis or the idea that Trump was right when he said he'd been spied on, no matter how irrelevant or incomplete, is turned into a big story.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...tion-spreads-in-trump-s-maga-world/ar-AATX1f9

Exactly, Durham released this to provide red meat for the talking heads and politicians to plant innuendos as a deflection off of the January 6th Committee's work, to give the wingers the "but, but, but, whatabout ......," anything to do with Hillary sells like hotcakes
 
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The Durham report reveals how bad information spreads in Trump's MAGA world

Does it?
 
Exactly, Durham released this to provide red meat for the talking heads and politicians to plant innuendos as a deflection off of the January 6th Committee's work, to give the wingers the "but, but, but, whatabout ......," anything to do with Hillary sells like hotcakes

Is that so, Anchovies?
 
Keeping in mind that power does not just lie to us constantly now, they spread Anti-Truth....the opposite of the truth.....because the only thing that matters to them is power.
 
Thanks, great opinion piece. I'm saving it for a topic in my cultural anthropology course.

As Joe Capitalist pointed out, the Reichwing is desperate to drum up *anything* to keep our eyes not focused over at that Jan. 6 special investigation.

Question... Who's focused on either? I certainly am not. In fact, if given some horrid either or choice between the two, I'd take the Durham investigation over the Jan 6 House investigation in a nanosecond.
 
The Durham report reveals how bad information spreads in Trump's MAGA world

Bad info definitely spreads in MAGA world but...that doesn't change the fact that Hillary and a few others need to hang by the neck until dead.
 
Question... Who's focused on either? I certainly am not. In fact, if given some horrid either or choice between the two, I'd take the Durham investigation over the Jan 6 House investigation in a nanosecond.

Of course you would. Your kind prefer to pretend they can't see reality.
 
Of course you would. Your kind prefer to pretend they can't see reality.

No, I prefer the kind that gets results. The Jan 6 committee has about 9 months to run its course, then it's finished. In that time there may be an increasing number of partisan, breathless, hysterical, leaks intended to hurt Republican chances in November that amount to nothing. It's the same sort of useless committee as the two that tried to impeach Trump, or the one that tried to impeach Clinton to include a counter example.

OMG! The committee is going to get fill in the blank that Trump doesn't want them to have! He's finished! Repeat that process about every two weeks on a new subject that then goes nowhere and you have what those useless dorks have produced to date.

The partisan hacks on it couldn't find their own asses, let alone some startling evidence of something, if they had a funnel, a flashlight, and search party. They are the same sort of incompetent losers that the Democrats pack together for any cabal they're forming.

On the other hand, Durham hardly a partisan figure, is turning over pretty damning evidence with each shovel of dirt he digs. But, of course, that's to be expected when the Hildabeast is involved.
 
Uranium One all over again. It's laughable, but you will still hear people claim that Hillary Clinton sold all of our Uranium to Russia. It takes ten seconds to debunk, and yet it's persisted a decade.

For those not familiar, Hillary Clinton as SOS had to sign off on the purchase of a Uranium mining company to a Russian interest. Clinton signed off along with the NRC, the state of Utah, and every other cabinet member. I guess everyone loves Hillary and the Russians. Go figure. The lead that was buried in their bizarre and vast conspiracy theory is that NONE OF THE URANIUM EVER WENT TO RUSSIA.

Carry on. There is no story here.
 
Durham ... is turning over pretty damning evidence with each shovel of dirt he digs.

You think so? Durham has indicted two people: Sussmann for allegedly lying to the FBI a couple of months into the Russia investigation, and a junior lawyer in the FBI.

Of the others referred to in his latest filing, none have been indicted (although Trump thinks they should be executed). Also the filing - if you read it rather than Fox's version - does not claim that the Clinton campaign paid a tech firm to "infiltrate" Trump's servers, or allege that any illegality took place.

Pretty damning, you think?
 
You think so? Durham has indicted two people: Sussmann for allegedly lying to the FBI a couple of months into the Russia investigation, and a junior lawyer in the FBI.

Of the others referred to in his latest filing, none have been indicted (although Trump thinks they should be executed). Also the filing - if you read it rather than Fox's version - does not claim that the Clinton campaign paid a tech firm to "infiltrate" Trump's servers, or allege that any illegality took place.

Pretty damning, you think?

So the New York Post and Wall Street Journal also got it wrong?
 
You think so? Durham has indicted two people: Sussmann for allegedly lying to the FBI a couple of months into the Russia investigation, and a junior lawyer in the FBI.

Of the others referred to in his latest filing, none have been indicted (although Trump thinks they should be executed). Also the filing - if you read it rather than Fox's version - does not claim that the Clinton campaign paid a tech firm to "infiltrate" Trump's servers, or allege that any illegality took place.

Pretty damning, you think?

Compared to the nothing burger of the Jan 6 committee, Durham is 2 to 0, so-to-speak.
 
Thanks, great opinion piece. I'm saving it for a topic in my cultural anthropology course.

As Joe Capitalist pointed out, the Reichwing is desperate to drum up *anything* to keep our eyes not focused over at that Jan. 6 special investigation.

the lies and dishonesty about Russia is why nobody trusts the elections or the media - or the people involved in January 6th. or any shit stains like.well...you to be frank

and so long as that remains true - January 6th investigation is just a partisan waste of time and will have no impact at all.
 
So the New York Post and Wall Street Journal also got it wrong?

Here is Durham's filing to the D.C. Court:
https://www.scribd.com/document/558...Into-Potential-Conflicts-of-Interest#download

Where does it say that any illegality was committed apart from Sussmann allegedly lying to the FBI, for which he was indicted last September?

Now compare that with what Fox News and the NY Post have been saying all week. The WSJ should know better, but they too "got it wrong".
 
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