The election is over so it’s safe for schools to open

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Darth Omar

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1333598477830549504

Something change in the data that persuaded Fauci to change his stance on in person learning?

Nope. Been that way all along. Myself and others have been saying it. Kids don’t get COVID often and when they do they don’t get sick and they are weak transmitters of it. Kids are not significant drivers of transmission. Period. End of discussion. Not a knew revelation.

So, what changed Fauci’s mind?

We should have held the election in June, that way schools would have opened normally in the fall and half of us would be vaccinated by now.

Think about it.
 
Anyone notice how the vaccine narrative changed over time?

Remember when ‘science was saying’ there would probably be no vaccine? And a week after the election, bingo, we have two of them.

It’s easy to get the idea we are being played for fools.
 
Darth Omar said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1333598477830549504

Something change in the data that persuaded Fauci to change his stance on in person learning?

Nope. Been that way all along. Myself and others have been saying it. Kids don’t get COVID often and when they do they don’t get sick and they are weak transmitters of it. Kids are not significant drivers of transmission. Period. End of discussion. Not a knew revelation.

So, what changed Fauci’s mind?

We should have held the election in June, that way schools would have opened normally in the fall and half of us would be vaccinated by now.

Think about it.
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no, you are lying again....fauci said schools could open because of kids not being quite so at risk from this virus in the summer before school started-

US coronavirus: K-12 schools and colleges can reopen, but ...www.cnn.com › 2020/08/03 › health › us-coronavirus-m...
Aug 3, 2020 — Dr. Anthony Fauci said Monday safety and testing need to be a ... K-12 schools and colleges can reopen, but safety should come first, Fauci says ... should always be the safety, the health of the welfare of the children, as well ...

Power Up: Anthony Fauci cautiously supports sending kids backwww.washingtonpost.com › politics › 2020/08/07 › po...
Aug 7, 2020 — We talked to the doctor about reopenings, death threats, the election and Birx.

Fauci says there are 2 reasons we should reopen schools ...www.businessinsider.com › Science › News
Aug 4, 2020 — On Monday, Dr. Fauci said school reopenings are important for kids' ... we should try as best as we possibly can to get the children back to ...
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
no, you are lying again....fauci said schools could open because of kids not being quite so at risk from this virus in the summer before school started-

US coronavirus: K-12 schools and colleges can reopen, but ...www.cnn.com › 2020/08/03 › health › us-coronavirus-m...
Aug 3, 2020 — Dr. Anthony Fauci said Monday safety and testing need to be a ... K-12 schools and colleges can reopen, but safety should come first, Fauci says ... should always be the safety, the health of the welfare of the children, as well ...

Power Up: Anthony Fauci cautiously supports sending kids backwww.washingtonpost.com › politics › 2020/08/07 › po...
Aug 7, 2020 — We talked to the doctor about reopenings, death threats, the election and Birx.

Fauci says there are 2 reasons we should reopen schools ...www.businessinsider.com › Science › News
Aug 4, 2020 — On Monday, Dr. Fauci said school reopenings are important for kids' ... we should try as best as we possibly can to get the children back to ...
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Why don’t more school districts listen to him?
 
Darth Omar said:
Why don’t more school districts listen to him?
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instead of watching fox, try watching a real news show- in areas where the infection rate is super high, it is unsafe for even kids to be around other kids, much less the adults who need to show up in person at those schools. each school district has to take safety over in person education....especially now that we know there are several effective vaccines in the pipeline, and even if this whole school year is a wash, next year's can be normal as hell and that is more important than missing a little bit of school in order to save lives.
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
instead of watching fox, try watching a real news show- in areas where the infection rate is super high, it is unsafe for even kids to be around other kids, much less the adults who need to show up in person at those schools. each school district has to take safety over in person education....especially now that we know there are several effective vaccines in the pipeline, and even if this whole school year is a wash, next year's can be normal as hell and that is more important than missing a little bit of school in order to save lives.
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What part of kids are weak transmitters don’t you understand?
 
Darth Omar said:
What part of kids are weak transmitters don’t you understand?
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you do not understand anything about how all this works. kids do get sick, some do die, from this virus. but it does not seem to affect them as much, either in being susceptible to catching it, or in severity if they do. but that does not mean if they are around A LOT OF KIDS WITH THE VIRUS, FOR 9 HOURS A DAY, THEY WILL NOT BE INFECTED, AND EVEN IF ASYMPTOMATIC, STILL CARRIERS. that is why you have to take into consideration the infection rate of the area where the school is....if extremely high, then probably a lot of the kids are carriers, and if low, not so much. the higher the infection rate of the area, the MORE LIKELY anyone in that area gets exposed to the virus. duh. even kids.

Approximately 56 million school-aged children (aged 5–17 years) resumed education in the United States in fall 2020.* Analysis of demographic characteristics, underlying conditions, clinical outcomes, and trends in weekly coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) incidence during March 1–September 19, 2020 among 277,285 laboratory-confirmed cases in school-aged children in the United States might inform decisions about in-person learning and the timing and scaling of community mitigation measures. During May–September 2020, average weekly incidence (cases per 100,000 children) among adolescents aged 12–17 years (37.4) was approximately twice that of children aged 5–11 years (19.0). In addition, among school-aged children, COVID-19 indicators peaked during July 2020: weekly percentage of positive SARS-CoV-2 test results increased from 10% on May 31 to 14% on July 5; SARS-CoV-2 test volume increased from 100,081 tests on May 31 to 322,227 on July 12, and COVID-19 incidence increased from 13.8 per 100,000 on May 31 to 37.9 on July 19. During July and August, test volume and incidence decreased then plateaued; incidence decreased further during early September and might be increasing. Percentage of positive test results decreased during August and plateaued during September. Underlying conditions were more common among school-aged children with severe outcomes related to COVID-19: among school-aged children who were hospitalized, admitted to an intensive care unit (ICU), or who died, 16%, 27%, and 28%, respectively, had at least one underlying medical condition. Schools and communities can implement multiple, concurrent mitigation strategies and tailor communications to promote mitigation strategies to prevent COVID-19 spread. These results can provide a baseline for monitoring trends and evaluating mitigation strategies.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6939e2.htm
 
Again, what part of kids being weak transmitters don’t you understand?

You realize seasonal flu is a bigger threat to that population, right. And not just to sickly kids with other significant health issues. Healthy kids get the flu and die every year. The Obama Virus was *significantly* more of a threat to kids than COVID and we didn’t have this national debate about schools opening.

You need to get your facts right. Or ‘stop lying so much’ to be less diplomatic about it.
 
Darth Omar said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1333598477830549504

Something change in the data that persuaded Fauci to change his stance on in person learning?

Nope. Been that way all along. Myself and others have been saying it. Kids don’t get COVID often and when they do they don’t get sick and they are weak transmitters of it. Kids are not significant drivers of transmission. Period. End of discussion. Not a knew revelation.

So, what changed Fauci’s mind?

We should have held the election in June, that way schools would have opened normally in the fall and half of us would be vaccinated by now.

Think about it.
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“COVID, COVID, COVID! They’ll stop talking about it November 4th.”

Donald Trump
 
Darth Omar said:
Anyone notice how the vaccine narrative changed over time?

Remember when ‘science was saying’ there would probably be no vaccine? And a week after the election, bingo, we have two of them.

It’s easy to get the idea we are being played for fools.
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You have been for 4 years, idiot. Actually, 61, you still are.
 
Darth Omar said:
Again, what part of kids being weak transmitters don’t you understand?

You realize seasonal flu is a bigger threat to that population, right. And not just to sickly kids with other significant health issues. Healthy kids get the flu and die every year. The Obama Virus was *significantly* more of a threat to kids than COVID and we didn’t have this national debate about schools opening.

You need to get your facts right. Or ‘stop lying so much’ to be less diplomatic about it.
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you realize you are full o' shit, right? the flu is not even in the same ball park as this virus. why do you believe such silly ass shit? what obama virus are you so stupidly referring to, jughead?
 
Darth Omar said:
Why don’t more school districts listen to him?
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This is a learn as we go process 61, it’s a novel virus. You as a person in the medical field should understand this. It’s like surgery, it’s vastly improved over the years as the medical field’s knowledge has grown. There have been mistakes made, but they learn from their mistakes.
 
domer76 said:
You have been for 4 years, idiot. Actually, 61, you still are.
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it's funny how he got caught lying about Dr. Fauci changing his story on opening school, so then he just started spewing other dumbass shit instead of admitting he lied. not funny, ha-ah...funny, sad and pathetic and typical trump voter.
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
you realize you are full o' shit, right? the flu is not even in the same ball park as this virus. why do you believe such silly ass shit? what obama virus are you so stupidly referring to, jughead?
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H1N1.

Compare the mortality statistics with respect to kids and each virus.
 
Darth Omar said:
H1N1.

Compare the mortality statistics with respect to kids and each virus.
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be happy to, since you have been easily played again, jughead-

“t took Obama ‘millions infected and over 1,000 deaths’ to declare the H1N1 flu a health emergency,” read a March 29 meme on the verified page of Charlie Kirk, the founder of the conservative youth organization Turning Point USA. But under Trump, “coronavirus was declared a health emergency and public safety measures were in place before a single U.S. death occurred.”

That’s wrong. Both the Obama and Trump administrations declared public health emergencies before the first reported deaths relating to the novel coronavirus and H1N1.

Here’s an actual (albeit abridged) timeline for the emergency declarations for each pandemic.

Emergency Declarations for H1N1

The first U.S. infection of the novel type of influenza was identified in California on April 15, 2009.
On April 25, the World Health Organization declared a public health emergency of international concern.
The next day, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services declared a public health emergency. (It was repeatedly renewed.)
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported the first fatality from the outbreak days later, on April 29.
WHO declared H1N1 a pandemic on June 11.
By Oct. 5, an H1N1 vaccine was ready and the first doses were given in the U.S.
Obama weeks later declared a national emergency on Oct. 24, 2009. The CDC director, Dr. Thomas Frieden, said at the time that millions of people had been infected in the U.S. and more than 1,000 had died.
Emergency Declarations for COVID-19

The CDC confirmed the first case of the novel coronavirus in the U.S., in Washington state, on Jan. 21.
WHO declared a global public health emergency of international concern days later on Jan. 30.
The next day, on Jan. 31, HHS declared a public health emergency for the U.S. in response to the novel coronavirus, which causes the COVID-19 disease.
Weeks later, on Feb. 29, the first U.S. death attributed to the virus was reported.
WHO declared COVID-19 a pandemic on March 11.
On March 13, Trump declared a national emergency. As of March 12, there had been 40 reported deaths in the U.S.
In addition to being wrong, the posts misleadingly suggest that while Trump took decisive action on the coronavirus outbreak and put “public safety measures” in place, Obama failed to do the same when it came to H1N1.

As we’ve previously explained, the CDC began releasing antiviral drugs to treat the H1N1 flu on April 26, the same day of Obama’s public health emergency declaration, and two days later the FDA approved a new CDC test for the disease. By April 30, Obama formally requested $1.5 billion from Congress to address the outbreak (the Obama administration later asked for nearly $9 billion). And a vaccine was made available in about six months.

More than 12,000 people are estimated to have died from H1N1 between April 2009 and April 2010, according to the CDC.
Since Trump was first advised of how dangerously infectious and lethal covid 19 was back in February, not even a year yet, over 250,000 Americans have died.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/flawed-comparison-on-coronavirus-h1n1-emergency-timelines/
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
be happy to, since you have been easily played again, jughead-

“t took Obama ‘millions infected and over 1,000 deaths’ to declare the H1N1 flu a health emergency,” read a March 29 meme on the verified page of Charlie Kirk, the founder of the conservative youth organization Turning Point USA. But under Trump, “coronavirus was declared a health emergency and public safety measures were in place before a single U.S. death occurred.”

That’s wrong. Both the Obama and Trump administrations declared public health emergencies before the first reported deaths relating to the novel coronavirus and H1N1.

Here’s an actual (albeit abridged) timeline for the emergency declarations for each pandemic.

Emergency Declarations for H1N1

The first U.S. infection of the novel type of influenza was identified in California on April 15, 2009.
On April 25, the World Health Organization declared a public health emergency of international concern.
The next day, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services declared a public health emergency. (It was repeatedly renewed.)
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported the first fatality from the outbreak days later, on April 29.
WHO declared H1N1 a pandemic on June 11.
By Oct. 5, an H1N1 vaccine was ready and the first doses were given in the U.S.
Obama weeks later declared a national emergency on Oct. 24, 2009. The CDC director, Dr. Thomas Frieden, said at the time that millions of people had been infected in the U.S. and more than 1,000 had died.
Emergency Declarations for COVID-19

The CDC confirmed the first case of the novel coronavirus in the U.S., in Washington state, on Jan. 21.
WHO declared a global public health emergency of international concern days later on Jan. 30.
The next day, on Jan. 31, HHS declared a public health emergency for the U.S. in response to the novel coronavirus, which causes the COVID-19 disease.
Weeks later, on Feb. 29, the first U.S. death attributed to the virus was reported.
WHO declared COVID-19 a pandemic on March 11.
On March 13, Trump declared a national emergency. As of March 12, there had been 40 reported deaths in the U.S.
In addition to being wrong, the posts misleadingly suggest that while Trump took decisive action on the coronavirus outbreak and put “public safety measures” in place, Obama failed to do the same when it came to H1N1.

As we’ve previously explained, the CDC began releasing antiviral drugs to treat the H1N1 flu on April 26, the same day of Obama’s public health emergency declaration, and two days later the FDA approved a new CDC test for the disease. By April 30, Obama formally requested $1.5 billion from Congress to address the outbreak (the Obama administration later asked for nearly $9 billion). And a vaccine was made available in about six months.

More than 12,000 people are estimated to have died from H1N1 between April 2009 and April 2010, according to the CDC.
Since Trump was first advised of how dangerously infectious and lethal covid 19 was back in February, not even a year yet, over 250,000 Americans have died.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/flawed-comparison-on-coronavirus-h1n1-emergency-timelines/
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What lol?

Here:

“However, the estimated death toll so far, 9,820, remains well below the estimated seasonal flu toll of 36,000, though children and younger adults make up about 87% (8,540) of that total, the opposite of what is seen with seasonal flu. Meanwhile, the estimate of 213,000 H1N1 hospitalizations is slightly above the estimate of 200,000 hospital cases for a typical flu season.”

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...rply-raises-h1n1-case-estimates-kids-hit-hard
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Oddly—and thankfully, COVID is sort of an upside down version of H1N1.

See that number? 87% of Swine Flu deaths were in in the kids/young adults population. In contrast, it’s not inaccurate to call COVID a nursing home virus since nearly 50% of deaths are in a population that is going to die from *something* within 13 months [on average] anyway.

And it’s not inaccurate to say COVID is *less lethal* than the flu to the younger population.

But the media rarely makes such comparisons.
 
Darth Omar said:
What lol?

Here:

“However, the estimated death toll so far, 9,820, remains well below the estimated seasonal flu toll of 36,000, though children and younger adults make up about 87% (8,540) of that total, the opposite of what is seen with seasonal flu. Meanwhile, the estimate of 213,000 H1N1 hospitalizations is slightly above the estimate of 200,000 hospital cases for a typical flu season.”

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...rply-raises-h1n1-case-estimates-kids-hit-hard
____________

Oddly—and thankfully, COVID is sort of an upside down version of H1N1.

See that number? 87% of Swine Flu deaths were in in the kids/young adults population. In contrast, it’s not inaccurate to call COVID a nursing home virus since nearly 50% of deaths are in a population that is going to die of *something* within 13 months [on average] anyway.

And it’s not inaccurate to say COVID is *less lethal* than the flu to the younger population.

But the media rarely makes such comparisons.
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so you think it is okay if people who are older die earlier than they would from some disease we could control if everybody wore a mask and maintained social distance? and even if half are old, that still means 125,000 dead americans were not, and that is many times more than the dead in normal flu years. have you ever heard of hospitals running out of room because of so many flu related ICU patients? or having to pile up dead flu related victims in air conditioned vans because the morgues are too full? WHY DO YOU SPEW SUCH GOOFY SHIT? besides the fact you are a trump voter and that is how trump voters roll....
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
so you think it is okay if people who are older die earlier than they would from some disease we could control if everybody wore a mask and maintained social distance? and even if half are old, that still means 125,000 dead americans were not, and that is many times more than the dead in normal flu years. have you ever heard of hospitals running out of room because of so many flu related ICU patients? or having to pile up dead flu related victims in air conditioned vans because the morgues are too full? WHY DO YOU SPEW SUCH GOOFY SHIT? besides the fact you are a trump voter and that is how trump voters roll....
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I cite statistics and you get all emotional with it.

The point is there’s no good reason for kids to not be in school when bars, restaurants and Walmart’s are open.

And I’ve been saying it all along.
 
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