The last, dying gasp of Republican America

Guno צְבִי

Guno צְבִי

We fight, We win, Am Yisrael Chai
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Trump seems to truly believe that he speaks for the American people. Just look at all that red on the Electoral College map! And see how he scaled the Democrats' fabled Blue Wall in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin? Ordinary Americans have finally found their defender against the corrupt elites who seek to rule them from their enclaves on the coasts, and these Americans have rewarded Trump with their votes.

This story was never really persuasive. Trump's victory could hardly have been narrower. He won only 46 percent of the votes cast, he lost the popular vote to his opponent by nearly 3 million, and he owed his win to the vagaries of the Electoral College combined with a grand total of 80,000 votes spread across those three formerly Democratic-leaning states.

Yet win he did. And combined with Republicans keeping their majorities in both houses of Congress and holding or gaining control of well over half of the statehouses and governors mansions in the country, it certainly looked and felt on the morning after the 2016 election like we'd entered an era of ascendant right-wing populism and nationalism.

But what if the Trumpified Republican Party represents the end of something rather than the beginning?


https://theweek.com/articles/761221/last-dying-gasp-republican-america
 
guno said:
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guno said:
Trump seems to truly believe that he speaks for the American people.
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He speaks for himself. Some people agree with him; others don't.

guno said:
Just look at all that red on the Electoral College map!
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Correct. It is basically a sea of red with some blue splotches along the edges...

guno said:
And see how he scaled the Democrats' fabled Blue Wall in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin?
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Yup, Dems thought they had those states in the bag; they were wrong. It seems like much of the Midwest may be turning on Dems due to Dems not giving a shit about their manufacturing jobs and letting illegals take their jobs and all that good stuff...

guno said:
Ordinary Americans have finally found their defender against the corrupt elites who seek to rule them from their enclaves on the coasts, and these Americans have rewarded Trump with their votes.
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Pretty much.

guno said:
This story was never really persuasive. Trump's victory could hardly have been narrower.
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It wasn't a "landslide" by any means, but it was convincing enough.

guno said:
He won only 46 percent of the votes cast,
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Not how presidents are elected. See Article 2 Section 1 of the US Constitution.

guno said:
he lost the popular vote to his opponent by nearly 3 million,
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Not how presidents are elected. See Article 2 Section 1 of the US Constitution.

guno said:
and he owed his win to the vagaries of the Electoral College
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??? The Electoral College is how presidents are elected in the USA...

guno said:
combined with a grand total of 80,000 votes spread across those three formerly Democratic-leaning states.
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You seem confused as to how presidents get elected in this country... See Article 2 Section 1 of the US Constitution.

guno said:
Yet win he did.
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Correct. More electors voted for Trump than Clinton.

guno said:
And combined with Republicans keeping their majorities in both houses of Congress and holding or gaining control of well over half of the statehouses and governors mansions in the country, it certainly looked and felt on the morning after the 2016 election like we'd entered an era of ascendant right-wing populism and nationalism.
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Who knows what will happen in the future...

guno said:
But what if the Trumpified Republican Party represents the end of something rather than the beginning?
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Who knows what will happen in the future...
 
de gerrymandering


people KNOW the Russians are being allowed by the republicans to cheat again for them




more people on the rolls due to young people being interested in voting and those who just aged in hate the repubicans
 
guno said:
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Trump seems to truly believe that he speaks for the American people. Just look at all that red on the Electoral College map! And see how he scaled the Democrats' fabled Blue Wall in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin? Ordinary Americans have finally found their defender against the corrupt elites who seek to rule them from their enclaves on the coasts, and these Americans have rewarded Trump with their votes.

This story was never really persuasive. Trump's victory could hardly have been narrower. He won only 46 percent of the votes cast, he lost the popular vote to his opponent by nearly 3 million, and he owed his win to the vagaries of the Electoral College combined with a grand total of 80,000 votes spread across those three formerly Democratic-leaning states.

Yet win he did. And combined with Republicans keeping their majorities in both houses of Congress and holding or gaining control of well over half of the statehouses and governors mansions in the country, it certainly looked and felt on the morning after the 2016 election like we'd entered an era of ascendant right-wing populism and nationalism.

But what if the Trumpified Republican Party represents the end of something rather than the beginning?


https://theweek.com/articles/761221/last-dying-gasp-republican-america
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The President is not elected by popular vote. See the Constitution of the United States.
 
There is no end to either party, they will switch back and forth indefinitely.

It is the nature of our system and the grass is always greener on the other side.

After a time in power people begin to think the other side can do better and back and forth it goes.

And this is important because our system requires it which is why the president nominates justices which in turn allows the courts to go back and forth and never consolidating power on one side or the other.

It's like a pendulum swinging back and forth, never going too far in one direction but always passing back over center while the minutes continue to march on.
 
MASON said:
Nobody is a worse human being than Trump
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Really??? I don't recall Trump ever killing millions of his own people, nor do I call him ever attempting to wipe out an entire group of people (such as Jewish people)...

I also don't recall people attempting to flee the USA due to government oppression, like they have due to the dictators of Cuba, North Korea, etc...
 
gfm7175 said:
Really??? I don't recall Trump ever killing millions of his own people, nor do I call him ever attempting to wipe out an entire group of people (such as Jewish people)...

I also don't recall people attempting to flee the USA due to government oppression, like they have due to the dictators of Cuba, North Korea, etc...
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So you're giving him a pass.
 
MASON said:
So you're giving him a pass.
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You said Trump was the worst human being. I provided examples of worse ones... You didn't like it...

Also, in order for me to "give him a pass", you'd have to provide examples of why he is so awful of a person...
 
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