The message of the Ma election: we want the public option!

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House Democrats reluctant to take up Senate health-care reform bill





Thursday, January 21, 2010; 9:27 AM

Determined to enact a health-care reform bill, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi struggled Wednesday to sell the Senate version of the legislation to reluctant Democrats, even as party moderates raised doubts about forging ahead without bipartisan support.
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Republican Scott Brown's victory Tuesday in a Senate special election in Massachusetts blindsided President Obama and Democratic leaders, who had nearly reached the finish line on an ambitious overhaul of the nation's health-care system and were beginning to turn their attention to other challenges, namely creating jobs and lowering the deficit.
The loss of their Senate supermajority has required a frantic reassessment of their strategy. Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) have pledged to complete work on the massive bill they started nearly a year ago, but they have yet to identify a clear way forward that will appeal broadly to their rank-and-file.
Obama added to the confusion Wednesday when he seemed to endorse one option: having both the House and the Senate start from scratch, by voting on a scaled-back package of popular provisions that would crack down on insurance companies but provide health coverage to far fewer additional people.
"We know that we need insurance reform, that the health insurance companies are taking advantage of people," Obama told ABC News in an interview. "We know that we have to have some form of cost containment because, if we don't, then our budgets are going to blow up. And we know that small businesses are going to need help."
That message alarmed House Democratic leaders who had been seeking to round up votes for the Senate bill -- Obama's first choice, they had believed. The move would require a companion package of fixes to the Senate legislation to address House concerns, especially related to subsidy levels for the uninsured and an excise tax on high-value policies that could hit union households. The White House quickly moved to clarify that the president still wants comprehensive reform.
"Right now there are a lot of discussions going on about the best path forward," spokesman Reid Cherlin said in a statement. "But let's be clear that the president's preference is to pass a bill that meets the principles he laid out months ago: more stability and security for those who have insurance, affordable coverage options for those who don't, and lower costs for families, businesses, and governments."
Pelosi spent the day huddled in her Capitol office with various Democratic factions. Senior aides said she has yet to identify the 218 votes needed to push the Senate bill through her chamber, nor is she convinced that the bill is politically sound.
But she reiterated her resolve to send a health-care bill to Obama's desk. "We heard the people, and hopefully we will move forward with their considerations in mind. But we will move forward in the process," Pelosi told the U.S. Conference of Mayors in a speech.
Reid, meanwhile, struck a more cautious note. "We're not going to rush into anything," he told reporters after a Senate Democratic lunch. "Remember, the bill we passed in the Senate is good for a year. There are many different things that we can do to move forward on health care, but we're not making any of those decisions now."



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Brown was elected to replace the late Edward M. Kennedy (D), the Senate's longtime champion of universal health care. He struck a conciliatory note during a Wednesday news conference in Boston, telling reporters that he supports expanding health-care coverage.
"I think it's important for everyone to get some form of health care," Brown said. "So to offer a basic plan for everybody, I think, is important. It's just a question of whether we're going to raise taxes, we're going to cut half a trillion from Medicare, we're going to affect veterans' care. I think we can do it better."
But if the senator-elect was willing to consider a health-care bill, most Republicans voiced relief that they may have dodged the current Democratic effort. Asked Wednesday whether the bill is dead, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) responded, "I sure hope so."
Sen. Susan Collins (Maine) is one of a handful of Republican moderates whose votes are certain to be sought by Obama and Reid in the months ahead on various bills. She said she remains open to a health-care compromise, but she worried that economic issues are more pressing.
"Many of us have heard from our constituents that, in addition to their overall concern about health care, they would like to see the administration and Congress focus on economic issues," Collins said. "That's the message from back home."
 
Snowe strategy; delay something that should have taken two or three months for six months, then complain that we should drop everything we've worked on with one or two weeks left to "focus on the economy". What a dumb bitch.
 
hilary clinton would have gotten shit done, just saying.

the doe eyed obamacons screwed themselves big time. lol.
 
Fuck you and your anti-human crusade. The majority of Brown voters WANT THE PUBLIC OPTION, and if Brown doesn't support it he should be EXPELLED from the senate.

Hey burger flipper, progressives are for minimum wage earners and limosine liberals. The rest of us have bills to pay.

Buck up to me, when your off Daddy's allowance Gerber baby.:gives:
 
We just want to keep our lifestyle at this point. soon this country is going to start seeing major lowering of life quality if we keep pumping the deficit.
 
We just want to keep our lifestyle at this point. soon this country is going to start seeing major lowering of life quality if we keep pumping the deficit.

Everyone wants that. Liberals think americans are evil and deserve it. Neocons think americans are lazy and deserve it.

Both brands of brainwash converge at the nexus of hating americans.
 
that was the message for progressive, the other 90% said fuck that and your money grab
This has completely shattered my confidence in Obama's leadership. Why the fuck did they wait till the last minute like this? Hubris? Where was the sense of urgency knowing this agenda was hanging in the balance by one fucking vote? I smeall a rat. A very big smelly rat.

Health Care reform is officially dead for the rest of the Obama administration.

I all ready held the Senate in contempt as the most un-Democratic institution in our government. An institution stuffed with Oligarchs, in both parties, who will sell the best interest of this nation down the sewer in a heart beat in order to serve the selfish interest of a handfull of people.

The time has come to ask the question. Is it now the time and place in our history to do away with the Senate?
 
hilary clinton would have gotten shit done, just saying.

the doe eyed obamacons screwed themselves big time. lol.
They sure did trip over their own fucking feet big time, didn't they?

I still don't get that. These people can't possible be that stupid. Like I've been saying. I smell a rat. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

Dems have either decided that this reform is so diluted that they can't support it or they have received so much push back from constituents that they have purposefully allowed it to fail.
 
A majority of Americans oppose Republican lies about the healthcare bill. And that's fine, nothing like what the liars party is saying is on the table. So a majority of Americans are pro-human and support the bill. So we should pass it.
 
This has completely shattered my confidence in Obama's leadership. Why the fuck did they wait till the last minute like this? Hubris? Where was the sense of urgency knowing this agenda was hanging in the balance by one fucking vote? I smeall a rat. A very big smelly rat.

Health Care reform is officially dead for the rest of the Obama administration.

I all ready held the Senate in contempt as the most un-Democratic institution in our government. An institution stuffed with Oligarchs, in both parties, who will sell the best interest of this nation down the sewer in a heart beat in order to serve the selfish interest of a handfull of people.

The time has come to ask the question. Is it now the time and place in our history to do away with the Senate?


The Repbulicons dragged their feet... obstructed every inch of the way. Don't blame it all on Obama. The Senate is an important part of our democratic government but since we're no longer a democracy maybe the senate is obsolete. Maybe we should just continue to let the multi-national corporations and Lord Lieberman decide what healthcare Americans deserve.
 
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