The non-aggression principle is idiotic

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What is aggression? The unjustified use of force. When do humans generally find force to be justified? When someone does something contradictory to their value system. Really? The use of force is only acceptable when justified? Wow, that's an incredibly deep philosophical nugget. It's idiotic, and shows their truly intolerant and totalitarian tendencies, that Libertarian's label their philosophy THE non-aggression principle. Do you honestly think that every other philosophy in the world doesn't find their uses of force justified? Do you think that everyone should just accept the points where you do think force is justified? It's literally no different than stating

1. Libertarianism is true.
2. Therefore, libertarianism is true.

It's circular reasoning. Yes, if we start from the assumption that everything you believe is true, your arguments are perfectly logical. If we don't, and you refuse to accept the opinions of anyone else and apply your value system universally anyway, you're going to be an incredibly violent "non-aggressive" person. Anyone who acted in such a manner with any value system would. Let's just go around and claim that the only state that should exist is the bare minimum necessary to protect the position of the current dominant class, and use "self-defense" against anyone who disagrees with us, in the name of freedom! Man, I totally don't see history repeating itself here.
 
The libertarian view that they have derived the ultimate justice from which there can be no variation, that there's a clear and obvious "aggressor" in every instance, and that there's nothing at all wrong with violence itself, is precisely the view that has lead to every atrocity that's ever been committed.
 
Watermark said:
What is aggression? The unjustified use of force. When do humans generally find force to be justified? When someone does something contradictory to their value system. Really? The use of force is only acceptable when justified? Wow, that's an incredibly deep philosophical nugget. It's idiotic, and shows their truly intolerant and totalitarian tendencies, that Libertarian's label their philosophy THE non-aggression principle. Do you honestly think that every other philosophy in the world doesn't find their uses of force justified? Do you think that everyone should just accept the points where you do think force is justified? It's literally no different than stating

1. Libertarianism is true.
2. Therefore, libertarianism is true.

It's circular reasoning. Yes, if we start from the assumption that everything you believe is true, your arguments are perfectly logical. If we don't, and you refuse to accept the opinions of anyone else and apply your value system universally anyway, you're going to be an incredibly violent "non-aggressive" person. Anyone who acted in such a manner with any value system would. Let's just go around and claim that the only state that should exist is the bare minimum necessary to protect the position of the current dominant class, and use "self-defense" against anyone who disagrees with us, in the name of freedom! Man, I totally don't see history repeating itself here.
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Best rant posted in a long time dude. Two thumbs up. You also just described every argument ever posted by SM and PiMP!
 
Justifiable force- a synergistic principle.

They have attacked us and will attack us again if we do nothing.

Something must be done.

We will seize the moment and strike them back-and smash them.
 
If you don't know what agression is, then you have never seen it. Agression is me building my fence inside your yard.
 
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